BUG? Something in game causing very high temps on AMD CPU

[VOFluff]

GZW is causing my 5800X3D to reach 91c on the package and 100c on the CCD. I have confirmed my cooling is not having any issues, and tested with other games following seeing these results with GZW - No other games or benchmark tools even get close to these temps, capping out around 65-70c on my system.

Thought it was worth mentioning so the devs can look into this. I have seen others report the same thing elsewhere.

[LudZ]

Same here, with R9 5900x & Noctua Chromax. 75c then 95c causing reboot for Overheating. Can't play anymore. Yesterday have 0 issue.

[Momo]

7600x here, never reached a temp above 81°C and only for rare spikes when at 100% usage (pretty normal for this CPU). Normally it stays at 60% usage with 55-60°C. Air cooled.

Try to cap you framerate.

[CornedBeef]

Cap your frame rate. I wish they had a 90 cap instead of just 60 or 120.

[Elliott]

same here, especially in the heli, 13900k usually runs around 45-50c but in that heli it goes to 75-90c easily

[REDMVGE]

My Ryzen 7 5800X is sitting between 65 and 90°C while playing the game. I'm used to my CPU getting higher temps but this game is the first that consistently pushes 90. I'm using an NZXT Kraken for CPU cooling and have good airflow in my case and usually I only peak around 75, maybe 80 at the most.

Not that it's an "issue", but still something I noticed. I'm sure it'll get more optimized with time.

[VOFluff]

To follow up to everyone:

1) With some further testing today, it seems the game does not respect any type of framerate limit. Neither the games own limiter or the limiter in the AMD driver software.
With a limit of 120 in game, or 144 in my driver, the game would only stick to the limit when you are stood still, not moving the mouse. Not very useful at all.

2) Turning off FSR frame gen ingame had made it somewhat cooler, but still much warmer than literally anything else makes my machine get, and you get terrible performance.

Think I will shelve the game for now. Ryzen's max safe temp is around 90-95c as far as I am aware, and its just not worth it to me.

[Ruben]

Running a FE 4080 and a 7800x3d in 3440x1440 and I max out at 70C (frame capped to 144 on ultra and DLSS)

[Casper Poor]

Havent checked my temps but my PC havent rebooted just yet and I have Ryzen 9 5900X that @LudZ in top of the thread has but I have some crappy AIO that sucks more than his air cooler (which is good btw).

[Sunbather]

Originally posted by VOFluff:

To follow up to everyone:

1) With some further testing today, it seems the game does not respect any type of framerate limit. Neither the games own limiter or the limiter in the AMD driver software.
With a limit of 120 in game, or 144 in my driver, the game would only stick to the limit when you are stood still, not moving the mouse. Not very useful at all.

2) Turning off FSR frame gen ingame had made it somewhat cooler, but still much warmer than literally anything else makes my machine get, and you get terrible performance.

Think I will shelve the game for now. Ryzen's max safe temp is around 90-95c as far as I am aware, and its just not worth it to me.

Frame Gen override frame limits...

If you haven't set up your system in a way that the CPU can reach 100% usage without overheating, you have to set up your system better.

It's actually good that the game is using so much of the CPU. Nothing is worse than an engine that only utilizes half of the resources when it actually needed all of them.

If you haven't got a single clue, maybe don't buy highend hardware that is known to run ridiculously hot?

[DarK]

5950x with Noctua NH-D14 no issues with temps <70C, max settings 4k. Did you run a cpu stress test?(and no, playing x, y or z game is not a test)

[Tbone]

same here my 5800 x3d hits 92 and can shut my pc off i am using arctic liquid freeze 360 one of the best coolers no effect to temps with this game and some other unreal 5 game but they only while loading shaders maybe they could do the shader thing ?

[Keyboard Cowboy]

Originally posted by Sunbather:

If you haven't got a single clue, maybe don't buy highend hardware that is known to run ridiculously hot?

Wait, what?
If the person doesn't have a clue, how would they know which hardware runs hot or not?

Usually people buy high-end PC's because they think that more money equals better.

[Tbone]

its the Helicopters for me, when ever i hitch a ride my fans go ballistic.

[Warmech]

Originally posted by Tbone:

same here my 5800 x3d hits 92 and can shut my pc off i am using arctic liquid freeze 360 one of the best coolers no effect to temps with this game and some other unreal 5 game but they only while loading shaders maybe they could do the shader thing ?

This post is going to be long primarily because I have a 5800X3D in one of my PCs, so I'm more familiar with the relative performance and behavior of it...

Some UE5 games tend to be very CPU intensive because of the engine itself, but especially GZW because it also uses AVX2 instructions for the open world aspect and is still in pre-alpha awaiting optimization. Having a system shutdown because of temps though is abnormal, even if your CPU is hitting TJmax at 90C, it should simply thermal throttle back to safe frequencies/multipliers. Do you have some temperature safety shutdown limit enabled in BIOS? Or maybe PBO limits cranked up past their defaults?

Have you checked all the normal AIO/cooler related issues? When is the last time you remounted and repasted your AIO? Have you dusted out the rad fins recently? Fan and rad orientation? Do you have any overly restrictive BIOS fan/pump speed/voltage curves or settings? Is the AIO oriented correctly (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk at about 13 minutes if you don't want to watch all of it)? I've even seen some people who accidentally screwed in fans wrong and punctured the radiator, or if your AIO is 5+ years old it could simply have succumbed to coolant evaporation or microleaks.

Try running Cinebench R24 ( https://www.maxon.net/en/downloads/cinebench-2024-downloads ) CPU multicore and see what average temps and voltage you get with HWinfo ( https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ ). You can also try a Prime95 torture test ( https://www.mersenne.org/download/ ) with Small FFTs and leave AVX2 enabled.

For reference on my 5800X3D with a Themalright PA120 air cooler my temps sit around 80C (~37-40C above steady state) and average Vcore sits around 1.170V in R24. In GZW after shaders are compiled my 5800X3D sits in the low-mid 70s if I go fully uncapped fps and CPU bottleneck myself, and can spike up to ~80C in the worsts part of riding a heli and staring at a bunch of extra geometry/foliage in the mountains.

If you feel confident/experienced enough and built yourself (or don't care about voiding a warranty if you bought your PC) I would highly suggest looking into setting a negative curve optimizer offset either via BIOS, "PBO2 tuner" software, or if you have an MSI motherboard there should be a specific option called Kombo Strike in BIOS. In general, a -15 to -20 offset can be pretty safe on these chips, but some can go even lower especially if you take the time to adjust per-core. Just remember you still need to run the proper stress tests, and even if you are stable at 100% load, negative voltage offsets can sometimes cause instability only at low/idle loads.

You can see in the base of the bar charts at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuPH9pCCK-E&t=910s or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGfc-JBxlY for example that depending on your motherboard, some could be pushing way higher Vcore than needed (even if taking into account some reporting variance)