This is not "P2W"

[King_Kiff]

At best it's pay to support and gain a few hours convenience.

I also bet that everyone throwing a tantrum gets the game, the best edition and that they also have Tarkov EOD and that is what this tantrum is based on.

Residual BSG anger.

The babies will calm down and the anger will pass.

[King_Kiff]

Originally posted by Yuriji:

The white knight is trying to defend the game they will stop playing in 2 weeks nice try boyz

I don't even have the game, just calling out you pregnant with rage soys

[カミナ]

Originally posted by Mercy:

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

Idiots defending this have sub 80 IQ for sure. They deserve the way modern games have been going.

i don't have one dog in this race, but watching you hop around to different threads crying is pretty entertaining.

Crying? I'm pointing out this game is the same ♥♥♥♥ as tarkov and is p2w. Some of us aren't 13, I've seen this same thing happen now I know where it leads. If you want your game youre white knighting to be more than a flash in the bucket youd listen to people.

[King_Kiff]

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

Originally posted by Mercy:

i don't have one dog in this race, but watching you hop around to different threads crying is pretty entertaining.

Crying? I'm pointing out this game is the same ♥♥♥♥ as tarkov and is p2w. Some of us aren't 13, I've seen this same thing happen now I know where it leads. If you want your game youre white knighting to be more than a flash in the bucket youd listen to people.

yeah you are 14, if you think stash space is p2w you are clearly not an adult

[ChubbyNinja]

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

Crying? I'm pointing out this game is the same ♥♥♥♥ as tarkov and is p2w. Some of us aren't 13, I've seen this same thing happen now I know where it leads. If you want your game youre white knighting to be more than a flash in the bucket youd listen to people.

yeah you are 14, if you think stash space is p2w you are clearly not an adult

adjective:
written abbreviation for pay-to-win : (in computer games) involving or relating to the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money:
This game provides the best P2W experience possible.
What are the most P2W games?

noun:
written abbreviation for pay-to-win : (in computer games) the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money:
Gamers often have different ideas of what P2W is.
Although P2W is an unpopular concept, it is likely to be around for some time.

Source:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/p2w


I guess its considered p2w??? honestly i have no room to talk if thats the case i have the EOD edition for EFT. But at the same time i got a job and family, i dont have all this time in the world to grind repeatedly for digital items. If i get a few extra guns and gear (which i lose and unless its a AR that can shoot rockets on autofire) does not really give me a an "advantage" per saw since i can lose it. I mean look at the map, plenty of hiding places for ambushes. having the all the gear in the world aint going to mean a lick if some i do not see someone before they shoot me in the face. unless that package includes extra HP or some other advantage to increase my TTK over others (did not see it) then no i think it really gives anyone an advantage other then having more crap to lose then others.

Now the extra stash space...that is pretty gray to me, stash is kinda king in a extraction shooter so thats highly debatble its p2w in my opinion.

anyway just my thoughts...cheers and happy gaming.

[カミナ]

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

Crying? I'm pointing out this game is the same ♥♥♥♥ as tarkov and is p2w. Some of us aren't 13, I've seen this same thing happen now I know where it leads. If you want your game youre white knighting to be more than a flash in the bucket youd listen to people.

yeah you are 14, if you think stash space is p2w you are clearly not an adult

It's advantages that are not cosmetic in a game that you paid real money for. It's p2w.

Unlike you Im old enough to remember when gamers used to be outraged by ♥♥♥♥ like horse armor. Now the window has shifted so much thanks to spineless gamers like you that we just have people defending straight up pay to win like you do.

[カミナ]

Originally posted by ChubbyNinja:

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

yeah you are 14, if you think stash space is p2w you are clearly not an adult

adjective:
written abbreviation for pay-to-win : (in computer games) involving or relating to the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money:
This game provides the best P2W experience possible.
What are the most P2W games?

noun:
written abbreviation for pay-to-win : (in computer games) the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money:
Gamers often have different ideas of what P2W is.
Although P2W is an unpopular concept, it is likely to be around for some time.

Source:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/p2w


I guess its considered p2w??? honestly i have no room to talk if thats the case i have the EOD edition for EFT. But at the same time i got a job and family, i dont have all this time in the world to grind repeatedly for digital items. If i get a few extra guns and gear (which i lose and unless its a AR that can shoot rockets on autofire) does not really give me a an "advantage" per saw since i can lose it. I mean look at the map, plenty of hiding places for ambushes. having the all the gear in the world aint going to mean a lick if some i do not see someone before they shoot me in the face. unless that package includes extra HP or some other advantage to increase my TTK over others (did not see it) then no i think it really gives anyone an advantage other then having more crap to lose then others.

Now the extra stash space...that is pretty gray to me, stash is kinda king in a extraction shooter so thats highly debatble its p2w in my opinion.

anyway just my thoughts...cheers and happy gaming.

EoD is also definitionally pay to win yes. Tarkov and this game, both p2w.

[King_Kiff]

Originally posted by ChubbyNinja:

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

yeah you are 14, if you think stash space is p2w you are clearly not an adult

adjective:
written abbreviation for pay-to-win : (in computer games) involving or relating to the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money:
This game provides the best P2W experience possible.
What are the most P2W games?

noun:
written abbreviation for pay-to-win : (in computer games) the practice of paying to get weapons, abilities, etc. that give you an advantage over players who do not spend money:
Gamers often have different ideas of what P2W is.
Although P2W is an unpopular concept, it is likely to be around for some time.

Source:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/p2w


I guess its considered p2w??? honestly i have no room to talk if thats the case i have the EOD edition for EFT. But at the same time i got a job and family, i dont have all this time in the world to grind repeatedly for digital items. If i get a few extra guns and gear (which i lose and unless its a AR that can shoot rockets on autofire) does not really give me a an "advantage" per saw since i can lose it. I mean look at the map, plenty of hiding places for ambushes. having the all the gear in the world aint going to mean a lick if some i do not see someone before they shoot me in the face. unless that package includes extra HP or some other advantage to increase my TTK over others (did not see it) then no i think it really gives anyone an advantage other then having more crap to lose then others.

Now the extra stash space...that is pretty gray to me, stash is kinda king in a extraction shooter so thats highly debatble its p2w in my opinion.

anyway just my thoughts...cheers and happy gaming.

all that to still be wrong...

Amazing

[Sido Olavich]

i own EoD.

its p2w.

same for the special ♥♥♥♥ on this trash.

get triggered someone who owns EoD says its p2w.

[King_Kiff]

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

yeah you are 14, if you think stash space is p2w you are clearly not an adult

It's advantages that are not cosmetic in a game that you paid real money for. It's p2w.

Unlike you Im old enough to remember when gamers used to be outraged by ♥♥♥♥ like horse armor. Now the window has shifted so much thanks to spineless gamers like you that we just have people defending straight up pay to win like you do.

I am also old enough to remember not buying that.

This isn't pay to win and anyone claiming so is nothing more than a rage baby.

Stash space will not equal you winning.

[King_Kiff]

Originally posted by Sido Olavich:

i own EoD.

its p2w.

same for the special ♥♥♥♥ on this trash.

get triggered someone who owns EoD says its p2w.

I own EOD and it is P2W but the stash space isn't what makes it such...

get triggered by being wrong.

[カミナ]

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

It's advantages that are not cosmetic in a game that you paid real money for. It's p2w.

Unlike you Im old enough to remember when gamers used to be outraged by ♥♥♥♥ like horse armor. Now the window has shifted so much thanks to spineless gamers like you that we just have people defending straight up pay to win like you do.

I am also old enough to remember not buying that.

This isn't pay to win and anyone claiming so is nothing more than a rage baby.

Stash space will not equal you winning.

Stash space and secure container affect progression. They are objectively pay to win


If I'm playing tarkov and have the smallest container I can't fit a gpu in my secure container if I take docs case and injector. Stuff like this is hugely advantageous in pvp and needed for keys and other things. If you try to tell me being able to take docs case, injector case and have room for meds and still have the ability to swap things out for more valuables i find in raid isn't an advantage you're a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ liar.

And stash space is advantageous as well or people wouldn't pay ridiculous sums for items that increase it. Thicc cases are some of the most expensive things in the game and ARE BOUGHT TO GIVE SPACE. Space for hoarding equipment, barters, quest items.

You are a blatant liar saying these things aren't pay to win this game is the SAME as tarkov in this regard.

Little zoomer probably buys fortnite skins and ♥♥♥♥. You modern gamers defending all this ♥♥♥♥ have ruined gaming.

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LOL anytime soon pay to cheat sadly so yeah screw P2W that sh*t is dead long time ago cause of hacks that is true sad pay 2 win in this day and age

[Valinov]

The only pay to win is the fact that you get a tigerstripe camo uniform with the $100 edition. While you were all here arguing I had already won the game.

[King_Kiff]

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

I am also old enough to remember not buying that.

This isn't pay to win and anyone claiming so is nothing more than a rage baby.

Stash space will not equal you winning.

Stash space and secure container affect progression. They are objectively pay to win


If I'm playing tarkov and have the smallest container I can't fit a gpu in my secure container if I take docs case and injector. Stuff like this is hugely advantageous in pvp and needed for keys and other things. If you try to tell me being able to take docs case, injector case and have room for meds and still have the ability to swap things out for more valuables i find in raid isn't an advantage you're a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ liar.

And stash space is advantageous as well or people wouldn't pay ridiculous sums for items that increase it. Thicc cases are some of the most expensive things in the game and ARE BOUGHT TO GIVE SPACE. Space for hoarding equipment, barters, quest items.

You are a blatant liar saying these things aren't pay to win this game is the SAME as tarkov in this regard.

Little zoomer probably buys fortnite skins and ♥♥♥♥. You modern gamers defending all this ♥♥♥♥ have ruined gaming.

I am defending nothing, I am simply not calling it something it is not.

[カミナ]

Originally posted by King_Kiff:

Originally posted by コツメカワウソ Asian Otter:

Stash space and secure container affect progression. They are objectively pay to win


If I'm playing tarkov and have the smallest container I can't fit a gpu in my secure container if I take docs case and injector. Stuff like this is hugely advantageous in pvp and needed for keys and other things. If you try to tell me being able to take docs case, injector case and have room for meds and still have the ability to swap things out for more valuables i find in raid isn't an advantage you're a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ liar.

And stash space is advantageous as well or people wouldn't pay ridiculous sums for items that increase it. Thicc cases are some of the most expensive things in the game and ARE BOUGHT TO GIVE SPACE. Space for hoarding equipment, barters, quest items.

You are a blatant liar saying these things aren't pay to win this game is the SAME as tarkov in this regard.

Little zoomer probably buys fortnite skins and ♥♥♥♥. You modern gamers defending all this ♥♥♥♥ have ruined gaming.

I am defending nothing, I am simply not calling it something it is not.

Wow nice argument. You're not calling something what it is because you're lying and coping. I've already explained it to you. It's pay to win, it doesn't matter if you don't want to call it that or not. It is what it is.