Secure Containers & Stash Space Should Not Be Affected By Game Edition

[Punished Miller]

The prices are fine, and so is selling multiple different pre-order packages. However, the bonuses that people get on the higher tier packages are undeniably P2W[dictionary.cambridge.org].

We know from playing Tarkov that the ability to store more items into the secure container and in your stash has a huge snowball effect that allows you to progress faster than other players, regardless of skill or playtime. Even Tarkov EoD owners and streamers (LVNDMARK being the biggest one, admitting it in front of 29,000 viewers) have come to admit it after the recent fiasco, there is no more denying it.

Snowball effect in action:

Secure Containers (Referred to in GZW as "Secure Lockbox")
Standard Player:
- Can fit up to x4 single-slot Quest items in his secure container OR x1 four-slot Quest item. Potentially completes up to 4 quests at a time even if he gets killed.

Supporter Player:
- Can fit up to x9 single-slot Quest items in his secure container OR x1 four-slot & x5 single-slot Quest items in his secure containers. Potentially completes up to 9 quests at a time even if he gets killed.

(Stash Space (Referred to in GZW as "Locker Size")
Standard Player (10x25):
- Has to constantly play Tetris and sell gear that he finds in the raid to make room. Even if he finds a high-tier armor that he cannot buy from the traders he will have to sell it because there is simply not enough room in his stash.
- Has to buy new loadouts from scratch every time he dies because there is not enough space to keep entire loadouts on the ready.

Supporter Player (10x60):
- Hoards everything he finds
- Has entire loadouts always ready
- Can fill 90% of his stash with high-tier gear and still have space for more loot
- Only sells when he wants to, not when he needs to


Tarkov players already knew that EoD was blatant P2W, but because so many people had it nobody complained (other than the Standard players). Marek Rabas claims to have played a lot of Tarkov and to be aware of the issues that game had, so to see him repeat the same mistakes here already is kind of disheartening to say the least.

You can give higher editions more cosmetics, closed playtest access, unique nametags, art books, a place in the game's credits, etc.... but to give them in-game advantages too is just crossing the line.

GZW does not need this. The best time to remove those pre-order bonuses is now when nobody has pre-ordered any of these editions yet. It will be near-impossible to justify removing them later when people have already paid you.

But hey, I'm not your dad Marek. You can do whatever you want. If you want people to get in-game advantage for real money, you do you. Just count ME out of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

[Jackson Barret]

The in game mission gives the biggest secure container ehich is 4x4 and obtainable by everyone.
Lockers are coming later and are yet to be expanded upon and their use.

[LonelyCookie]

Originally posted by Punished Miller:

If you want people to get in-game advantage for real money, you do you.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

+1

Originally posted by Jackson Barret:

The in game mission gives the biggest secure container ehich is 4x4 and obtainable by everyone.
Lockers are coming later and are yet to be expanded upon and their use.

-1

[カミナ]

Originally posted by Jackson Barret:

The in game mission gives the biggest secure container ehich is 4x4 and obtainable by everyone.
Lockers are coming later and are yet to be expanded upon and their use.

This is such a cop out. For all we know the "mission" to get it is like getting kappa in tarkov which hardly anyone gets.

If it's such a "not a big deal" then don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ add it in at all. How about that? Even if it's a freeby quest the point stands, dont put it in at all. Just leave all this out of the game. It does nothing but make it worse and cheapen it.

If it's such a little deal then surely there will be no difference from leaving it out anyway then, right?

[rekt0ro]

Originally posted by Jackson Barret:

The in game mission gives the biggest secure container ehich is 4x4 and obtainable by everyone.
Lockers are coming later and are yet to be expanded upon and their use.

So the supporter edition owners will get even bigger locker size...

[Novadea]

I would have bought the supporter edition gladly if it wasn't blatant P2W, now I'm debating buying even the standard version because ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥.

[Sn4pFPS]

this is more a PVE game for now , its early access and we will see how this game goes for PVP , make no sense complain now , the game is not complete and is not a tarkov clone , use more your head guys before cry for everything.

[󠀡󠀡]

Originally posted by Sn4pFPS:

this is more a PVE game for now , its early access and we will see how this game goes for PVP , make no sense complain now , the game is not complete and is not a tarkov clone , use more your head guys before cry for everything.

copy paste everywhere lol why?

[Izalith]

Originally posted by Jackson Barret:

The in game mission gives the biggest secure container ehich is 4x4 and obtainable by everyone.
Lockers are coming later and are yet to be expanded upon and their use.

Yeah we know everybody how's work, 34329 Quests and 3421 impossible quest at end of game for that container, while the p2w version have everything at start , no thanks, i had a lot hype in game till now with Editions

[wuD]

Originally posted by Jackson Barret:

The in game mission gives the biggest secure container ehich is 4x4 and obtainable by everyone.
Lockers are coming later and are yet to be expanded upon and their use.

I can allready smell the Grind
Also, in the current gaming-industry, saying "at a later date" without giving any date, often means:
NEVER!

I was about to get that interesting looking game, now, i will definetly wait

[MIR-12]

P2W