Fort Narith

[Tuuka]

What is wrong with the spawn there? AI respawns way to qucik there by the time you find them kill them new ones already spawn

[󠁳]

i've been experiencing incredibly fast respawns a the mall, i havnt cleared it since the patch because i have had them respawn before i finished looking for keys, and its not uncommon for me to watch 4+ spawn right infront of me

[Mo_is_here]

you might need another one to go with you for best result.

[Tuuka]

Originally posted by ShadeShot:

i've been experiencing incredibly fast respawns a the mall, i havnt cleared it since the patch because i have had them respawn before i finished looking for keys, and its not uncommon for me to watch 4+ spawn right infront of me

I wanted to loot my boddy back and AI respawned just infront of me and killed me gg this is truly a nice experience

[Tuuka]

Originally posted by Mo_is_here:

you might need another one to go with you for best result.

I was doing it with a friend we lost everything, because of the Aimbot AI that just spots you and shots you trough bushes doing matrix moves frustrating not fun at all, if it was not for these bushes easy

[ArmedGhost-]

Areas with better loot and more loose cash should not be easy to navigate around.

Team up with other factions members, these areas are not meant to into solo.

[Fleetwood]

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Originally posted by Mo_is_here:

you might need another one to go with you for best result.

I was doing it with a friend we lost everything, because of the Aimbot AI that just spots you and shots you trough bushes doing matrix moves frustrating not fun at all, if it was not for these bushes easy

You want the bushes to be bulletproof?

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Tuuka:

Originally posted by Mo_is_here:

you might need another one to go with you for best result.

I was doing it with a friend we lost everything, because of the Aimbot AI that just spots you and shots you trough bushes doing matrix moves frustrating not fun at all, if it was not for these bushes easy

Once AI gets LOS and then lose LOS they will shoot in directions where they think you are or went to.

[JAKEtheSnake]

ive always did all my missons solo never had a problem and if i do i chalk it up to early excess it will most likely be fixed later on

[BigTrackBalls]

Originally posted by Fleetwood:

Originally posted by Tuuka:

I was doing it with a friend we lost everything, because of the Aimbot AI that just spots you and shots you trough bushes doing matrix moves frustrating not fun at all, if it was not for these bushes easy

You want the bushes to be bulletproof?

It's always about the bushes. Don't engage from the grassy knoll unless you can take them down at 500m while they matrix move on you. The Fort itself is surrounded by concrete and concrete is more bulletproof than a bush. There's also at least 10 different entrances into the perimeter with more or less AI depending on where you go. Cull them while they search for you from an easily defendable position. Make them push you when they don't have a line of sight, and stack the bodies up. Bushes are less bulletproof with the patch (which is good for hitting the AI through it now) but if you don't move n shoot they will zero in on where you're shooting from.

[Ares]

Originally posted by Fleetwood:

Originally posted by Tuuka:

I was doing it with a friend we lost everything, because of the Aimbot AI that just spots you and shots you trough bushes doing matrix moves frustrating not fun at all, if it was not for these bushes easy

You want the bushes to be bulletproof?

I don't see anyone mentioning this.
It all comes down to the fact AI has a clear LoS which you have not.
Simple comme bonjour, make the LoS of AI be blocked by the things that block your LoS.

I've been behind big trees being shredded to pieces but even leaning didn't let me shoot back since objects in GZ block bullets outside the visual edge of the object.
I've been killed by AI pointing their gun through walls and shooting me on the other side of it.
I've been followed by AI in FN when I entered barracks and then (snuck) inside a room without AI seeing/hearing me enter. They all camped in front of the door where I was, instead of searching the building, they knew 100% where I was.

Devs can say what they want, the above things, except for the tree example, just showcase the AI is firing/handling not only based on LoS or sound, making it impossible to stay invisible inside bushes/buildings etc..

One tap with a silenced weapon should make enemies aware and go out to search in the vicinity of a location, not firing at the exact location from 200m away from the first shot.
The approach is important, it needs gradual steps where the AI is alerted, searches for enemies, and eventually discovers players by LoS or sound.
Making AI jump from 0-100 awareness is basically an ever returning shoot-out where a lot of the possibilities between 0-100 are left without, nl tactical approach which would only benefit the immersion.
Now it's possible to alert the enemy, hide in a place and shoot them one by one.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Ares:

Originally posted by Fleetwood:

You want the bushes to be bulletproof?

I don't see anyone mentioning this.
It all comes down to the fact AI has a clear LoS which you have not.
Simple comme bonjour, make the LoS of AI be blocked by the things that block your LoS.

I've been behind big trees being shredded to pieces but even leaning didn't let me shoot back since objects in GZ block bullets outside the visual edge of the object.
I've been killed by AI pointing their gun through walls and shooting me on the other side of it.
I've been followed by AI in FN when I entered barracks and then (snuck) inside a room without AI seeing/hearing me enter. They all camped in front of the door where I was, instead of searching the building, they knew 100% where I was.

Devs can say what they want, the above things, except for the tree example, just showcase the AI is firing/handling not only based on LoS or sound, making it impossible to stay invisible inside bushes/buildings etc..

One tap with a silenced weapon should make enemies aware and go out to search in the vicinity of a location, not firing at the exact location from 200m away from the first shot.
The approach is important, it needs gradual steps where the AI is alerted, searches for enemies, and eventually discovers players by LoS or sound.
Making AI jump from 0-100 awareness is basically an ever returning shoot-out where a lot of the possibilities between 0-100 are left without, nl tactical approach which would only benefit the immersion.
Now it's possible to alert the enemy, hide in a place and shoot them one by one.

current AI behavior are placeholders and is going to be overhauled when the day/night update releases. People really need to keep up to date with dev blogs so they know what's being addressed in future updates.

[ReDemoN]

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

current AI behavior are placeholders and is going to be overhauled when the day/night update releases. People really need to keep up to date with dev blogs so they know what's being addressed in future updates.

Cool, now my expectation is to be shot through the bushes in the dark

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by ReDemoN:

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

current AI behavior are placeholders and is going to be overhauled when the day/night update releases. People really need to keep up to date with dev blogs so they know what's being addressed in future updates.

Cool, now my expectation is to be shot through the bushes in the dark

Except AI will been sleeping at night. Like I mentioned, AI behavior is being completely overhauled as the current behavior is just a placeholder.

Even then, devs have already released a video to why AI will shoot through bushes to begin with.

[MuffinMan]

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Originally posted by Tuuka:

I was doing it with a friend we lost everything, because of the Aimbot AI that just spots you and shots you trough bushes doing matrix moves frustrating not fun at all, if it was not for these bushes easy

Once AI gets LOS and then lose LOS they will shoot in directions where they think you are or went to.

Anybody who isn't braindead knows this is not how the AI behave. You are defending the poor design decisions and obvious deception from the devs. The AI do not behave as the 'video they posted' mentions. Placeholder or not, this is the current game we have and as alpha 'testers' they should not be having us test placeholder AI. It's more likely this is the actual AI, instead of the pipe dream you think is coming.

On a side note, the devs should be doing a better job communicating this info. It's not our job to seek out their updates on other platforms.

[Tuuka]

I finally did the quests but the AI is beyond broken im not asking to nerf them just saying they are beyond broken