Predictions

[BeerFacee]

On February 14, the game will not be playable, framedrops, achievements not pop in, controls bug, crashing game, drops under the texture, new bugs that were not in the original. Still waiting more bugfix after several patches game absolutely playable sometime in March .... change my mind, by the way i love you Tomb Raider 1,2,3 but reality is often like this...

[Dgo]

Yes because having MONTHS to test and fix whatever problem they face is not enough. Not to mention these are just remasters and not remakes which means that they demand much less work than a game developed from the ground.

Why you people insist on trolling the forums? No one cares about your stupid predictions. Why do you use the forum as if it were your personal wall?

What's next? Recipees for the Winter?

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Dgo:

Yes because having MONTHS to test and fix whatever problem they face. Not to mention these are just remasters and not remakes which means demands much less work than a game developed by the grounds.

Why you :TrollTrig: people insist on trolling the forums? No one cares about your stupid predictions. Why do you use the forum as this was your personal wall?

What's next? Recipees for the Winter?

After the absolute butchery of many remasters and atrocious launches of games people have every right to be wary.

I'm taking a risk pre-ordering it. If they manage to eff this up then they go on my ever growing list of companies I'll never buy from again.

[Dgo]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

After the absolute butchery of many remasters and atrocious launches of games people have every right to be wary.

So because many are flawed this one has to be the same way? Why? What's your source? Another "prediction"? You can believe what you want but this is not a "prediction" forum.

Originally posted by DogMeat:

I'm taking a risk pre-ordering it. If they manage to eff this up then they go on my ever growing list of companies I'll never buy from again.

There is no risk whatsoever. If you don't like the final product you can refund it. The company never got your $$. End of story and stop the paranoia.

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Dgo:

So because many are flawed this one has to be the same way? Why? What's your source? Another "prediction"? You can believe what you want but this is not a "prediction" forum.

I never said its a guarantee, I said people have a right to be wary. If it were guaranteed this was going to be bad I wouldn't have pre-ordered it.

Originally posted by Dgo:

There is no risk whatsoever. If you don't like the final product you can refund it. The company never got your $$. End of story and stop the paranoia.

There is a risk... but its basically too late. The risk is that companies start getting lazy and they release bad products then patch them later. We live in that world.

[Dgo]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

There is a risk... but its basically too late. The risk is that companies start getting lazy and they release bad products then patch them later. We live in that world.

What's the risk if that "lazyness" triggers a refund? Again stop the paranoia ffs.

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Dgo:

What's the risk if that "lazyness" triggers a refund? Again stop the paranoia ffs.

The risk is that most people actually don't refund. If they did developers / publishers would get the message and change their behavior. They don't because they know they can get away with it.

This isn't 'paranoia', its reality. Don't be all sensitive and defensive because people have a justified fear that it might be buggy / rushed or whatever at release. Seen it countless times for years now.

[V I D A L]

You are the worst type of person to be around.

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

You are the worst type of person to be around.

If people are cynical about modern game releases its because they've been given ample reason for it.

I have fingers crossed that the release will be solid, not requiring months to get important patches out. I super excited tbh, this is the first game I've pre-ordered in years.

I think you people are taking criticism of modern gaming as some sort of attack against you for being excited or for pre-ordering the game... when it isn't.

[Lanzagranadas]

I don't need to do futurology. There are bad remasters, there are also good remasters. How will this one turn out? I'll wait and see.

I don't know how much experience on remasters the team behind this has, but I'm certain that this isn't the typical upcoming AAA game that promises to blow my mind with an amazing experience I'll never forget... it's a remaster of 25 years old games that just needs to do its job at being an upgraded, complete, and more compatible version of those games I've already played.

[superbegita76800]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

Originally posted by Dgo:

So because many are flawed this one has to be the same way? Why? What's your source? Another "prediction"? You can believe what you want but this is not a "prediction" forum.

I never said its a guarantee, I said people have a right to be wary. If it were guaranteed this was going to be bad I wouldn't have pre-ordered it.

Originally posted by Dgo:

There is no risk whatsoever. If you don't like the final product you can refund it. The company never got your $$. End of story and stop the paranoia.

There is a risk... but its basically too late. The risk is that companies start getting lazy and they release bad products then patch them later. We live in that world.

+1 this, personally and for give a good example i was pleasantly surprise to see that Star Ocean The Second R was.. well an EXCELENT port ? (thanks you Gemdrops again !)

Funny thing is that at beginning i have not look for it (because of the well special ps1 version with unfair and strange difficulty and god know i have the habit to play only Hardcore on RA)

But after testing the demo well guess what ? I have preorder it and i am GLAD to have give it another chance, game is not bad and the remaster (well remaster and remake in graphic in fact and QoL clearly) is very gd. Somewhere it's a bit as HOW the game should have been back in the day.

To the point when the french patch of the first one was release i have ask for add it on RA (the day a developer will try to deveop a set of acheviements for First Departure well

And know i HOPE that First Departure had the SAME quality of big remaster.

There i have do it for tr remastered for give them a chance for.

[superbegita76800]

For being honest (and i am an ancient console player but i am still clearly into retrogaming) the downfall was AFTER the ps2 era if you notice well it's there that games have began to being well...not optimized (aside of course exclusivity ) and remember:

Console freezing, games crashing, saves corruption and other things was since the ps3/ Xbox 360 days but for sure it was made worse on pc.

On ps2 i know only some very rare case (who was patch i think to the infmaous legendary Soul claibur 3 for save corruption if you dared in fact save anbother game on the SAME memory card)

Or the european bgy version of the exclelent Dark Cloud 2 (was named Chonicles in europe)

But in the 2007+ era there..yeah

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by superbegita76800:

+1 this, personally and for give a good example i was pleasantly surprise to see that Star Ocean The Second R was.. well an EXCELENT port ? (thanks you Gemdrops again !)

Funny thing is that at beginning i have not look for it (because of the well special ps1 version with unfair and strange difficulty and god know i have the habit to play only Hardcore on RA)

But after testing the demo well guess what ? I have preorder it and i am GLAD to have give it another chance, game is not bad and the remaster (well remaster and remake in graphic in fact and QoL clearly) is very gd. Somewhere it's a bit as HOW the game should have been back in the day.

To the point when the french patch of the first one was release i have ask for add it on RA (the day a developer will try to deveop a set of acheviements for First Departure well

And know i HOPE that First Departure had the SAME quality of big remaster.

There i have do it for tr remastered for give them a chance for.

Yeah, I have no idea why people are getting seemingly offended over others wanting a demo. If they did release one they'd be under no obligation to download it.

I wonder if its some sort of OCD thing where they want to own everything related to a game so they'd feel like they had to have the demo in their library cluttering it up. I mean, if that's the case you could put the demo on an ignore list or hide it in your library...

I hope the release goes well. I'm cynical because I've been burned time after time pre-ordering... so I stopped. If this turns out to be a poor release that takes a long time to fix, it will just be another newspaper smack to my nose reminding me not to pre-order. If it goes great any of you bothered by me daring to show a bit of cynicism are more than welcome to mock me. I'll be with you enjoying the game!

[Neblunoa]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

Originally posted by Dgo:

What's the risk if that "lazyness" triggers a refund? Again stop the paranoia ffs.

The risk is that most people actually don't refund. If they did developers / publishers would get the message and change their behavior. They don't because they know they can get away with it.

This isn't 'paranoia', its reality. Don't be all sensitive and defensive because people have a justified fear that it might be buggy / rushed or whatever at release. Seen it countless times for years now.

It's normal to doubt but it seems pretty obvious to me that the OP was looking to create some kind of drama to troll and confront people. It's the new Steam trend, when the game's release date approaches you'll see the forum full of troll messages like this. You don't have to feed them!

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Neblunoa:

It's normal to doubt but it seems pretty obvious to me that the OP was looking to create some kind of drama to troll and confront people. It's the new Steam trend, when the game's release date approaches you'll see the forum full of troll messages like this. You don't have to feed them!

This feels much more like cynicism than trolling. The OP's post could be something I'd say about most modern games. I was willing to give this one a chance thanks to a combination of TR being special to me, and $22 not being the biggest loss if this turned out to be a disaster.

Another reason I pre-ordered was because one of my new years resolutions was to not buy any new games over the course of the year, so I wanted to only make a few purchases at the very start of the year.

Got WAY too many games on the backlog list to complete.

Anyway, I agree. If he's trolling, the point of trolling is to get an emotional response... and I don't see the point of getting all offended over this post. Ignore it or just give reasons why you were willing to pre-order this.

[Allu13]

Literally worst case scenario, not a "prediction".

This remaster wasn't advertised like the GTA remasters, all about the "fancy new graphics" (I'm also sick of people always comparing any upcoming remasters to the Disastrous Trilogy; that one was a bad apple, doesn't mean the entire tree is). Being half the price of the GTA disaster is already much less of a "cashgrab" than people make it out to be.

It's not shown a lot but it honestly gets my curiosity up. I'm keeping my expectations minimal (and so should you). Sure, there's no telling whether or not these work well (since it's not out yet), only time will tell.