A few issues with what I've seen.

[3D Master]

Whelp, this seems to be about the only place you can post, certainly no send message option on Crystal Dynamics site, so I hope the developers come here and read comments, because although most of it is good; there are some issues:

1. The send and stone textues in the Egypt level are FAR too yellow, at points even orange. It's supposed to be beige; sand, rocka and stone. I know the original textures if you just put the textures side by side seem to be similarly yellow color, but even look at the orignal graphics comparison here; that in a running game quite clearly looks way more beige. Remember, these textures were made for a running game on a comparatively low resolution CRT monitor; where the effect would be even more pronounced; the new textures need to be yess yellow to get the color of actual sand.

2. Something I absolutely hate: the Tomb Raider 2 walkable bridge in venice Italy; why in blazing hells does it look like a yellow wooden frame of an Chinese-Indonesian food restaurant? It's suppsed to be dark brown wooden window frames (look at the vertical lines that are completely absent from the remastered graphics) with stained glass in various shapes created in leaden outlines; a very Rennaissance look. This is the one thing that truly looks bad and nothing like the original.

So, I hope developers keep abreast of what fans say about stuff read this here, and go back and fix, especially the latter one; now hoping this is the only major flaw, given they've shown so little.

[Blackened Halo]

I actually agree. Some say the remaster uses AI enhanced textures, so this is probably why some textures just does not suit the original asthetics.

[3D Master]

I doubt it; the chinese-indonesian food restaurant is just too far away from the original to be created by any AI; an pure neural network upscale wouldn't change the coloring, nor erase parts of the texture; and an actual AI art generator would need to be set up with lots of freedom to make something that different, which I doubt because a. why would anyone on a remaster leave the AI that free, and b. you don't see such a weird difference anywhere else.

This makes me think that that art is not created by a computer, but is created by a human, and looked over by humans; there are plenty of fan-created hi-res texture packs for old games, all of which have these great deviations at times.

[Ceceli Δ]

Yeah... I got a feeling too that they tried so hard to make it shine and they killed the vibe, but nothing that we can't - hopefully - fix ourselves with reshade.

And, remember, the guys doing this are the same ones who did this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/997070/Marvels_Avengers__The_Definitive_Edition/

That game was so bad that it's 90% off and the game is being delisted forever. oof...

[DarkMoe]

no one is going to "fix" those things .. thats not how game development works. Get a honest issue

[Loneck]

The enhanced mode does not look right. It looks too cartoony. I agree that Egypt sandstone textures look off in the enhaced mode. Actually the original looks more realistic.

[sequence]

Originally posted by Ceceli Δ:

Yeah... I got a feeling too that they tried so hard to make it shine and they killed the vibe, but nothing that we can't - hopefully - fix ourselves with reshade.

And, remember, the guys doing this are the same ones who did this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/997070/Marvels_Avengers__The_Definitive_Edition/

That game was so bad that it's 90% off and the game is being delisted forever. oof...

If you're going to be so belligerent about a couple of textures that are completely optional to use, you could at least be right.

Crystal Dynamics isn't making the remaster. Apsyr is. So no, it's not the same people who made Avengers. And just because Crystal Dynamics made Avengers doesn't mean they're a bad developer.

It's a ♥♥♥♥ game for sure but do you honestly think the blame lies solely with them and not Square Enix, who have been more and more incompetent with each passing year?

It's much more likely that Square forced them to rush out another ♥♥♥♥♥♥ live service game (0 for 3 there Square, with Babylon's Fall and Outriders) with crunch and no time to fix anything in order to capitalise on Marvel hype because it's still (somehow) relevant. I'm sure Disney also would've had very stringent stipulations on what Crystal Dynamics were allowed to do with their multi billion dollar franchise characters.

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by sequence:

Originally posted by Ceceli Δ:

Yeah... I got a feeling too that they tried so hard to make it shine and they killed the vibe, but nothing that we can't - hopefully - fix ourselves with reshade.

And, remember, the guys doing this are the same ones who did this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/997070/Marvels_Avengers__The_Definitive_Edition/

That game was so bad that it's 90% off and the game is being delisted forever. oof...

If you're going to be so belligerent about a couple of textures that are completely optional to use, you could at least be right.

Crystal Dynamics isn't making the remaster. Apsyr is. So no, it's not the same people who made Avengers. And just because Crystal Dynamics made Avengers doesn't mean they're a bad developer.

It's a ♥♥♥♥ game for sure but do you honestly think the blame lies solely with them and not Square Enix, who have been more and more incompetent with each passing year?

It's much more likely that Square forced them to rush out another ♥♥♥♥♥♥ live service game (0 for 3 there Square, with Babylon's Fall and Outriders) with crunch and no time to fix anything in order to capitalise on Marvel hype because it's still (somehow) relevant. I'm sure Disney also would've had very stringent stipulations on what Crystal Dynamics were allowed to do with their multi billion dollar franchise characters.

Whoah... Belligerent? Stop projecting and take a chill pill, dude. Yikes...

[3D Master]

Originally posted by sequence:

Originally posted by Ceceli Δ:

Yeah... I got a feeling too that they tried so hard to make it shine and they killed the vibe, but nothing that we can't - hopefully - fix ourselves with reshade.

And, remember, the guys doing this are the same ones who did this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/997070/Marvels_Avengers__The_Definitive_Edition/

That game was so bad that it's 90% off and the game is being delisted forever. oof...

If you're going to be so belligerent about a couple of textures that are completely optional to use, you could at least be right.

Crystal Dynamics isn't making the remaster. Apsyr is. So no, it's not the same people who made Avengers. And just because Crystal Dynamics made Avengers doesn't mean they're a bad developer.

It's a ♥♥♥♥ game for sure but do you honestly think the blame lies solely with them and not Square Enix, who have been more and more incompetent with each passing year?

It's much more likely that Square forced them to rush out another ♥♥♥♥♥♥ live service game (0 for 3 there Square, with Babylon's Fall and Outriders) with crunch and no time to fix anything in order to capitalise on Marvel hype because it's still (somehow) relevant. I'm sure Disney also would've had very stringent stipulations on what Crystal Dynamics were allowed to do with their multi billion dollar franchise characters.

:sighs: Square Enix sold Crystal Dynamics and all their IP at least two years ago. Crystal Dynamics is now owned by the Embracer Group. Tomb Raider I-II-III Remastered is on the Crystal Dynamics website, but the website has no way to make contact. Aspyr is clearly working under contract by Crystal Dynamics/Embracer Group.

So, the next question would be; does Aspyr have a website where they can be contacted?

[sequence]

Originally posted by 3D Master:

Originally posted by sequence:

If you're going to be so belligerent about a couple of textures that are completely optional to use, you could at least be right.

Crystal Dynamics isn't making the remaster. Apsyr is. So no, it's not the same people who made Avengers. And just because Crystal Dynamics made Avengers doesn't mean they're a bad developer.

It's a ♥♥♥♥ game for sure but do you honestly think the blame lies solely with them and not Square Enix, who have been more and more incompetent with each passing year?

It's much more likely that Square forced them to rush out another ♥♥♥♥♥♥ live service game (0 for 3 there Square, with Babylon's Fall and Outriders) with crunch and no time to fix anything in order to capitalise on Marvel hype because it's still (somehow) relevant. I'm sure Disney also would've had very stringent stipulations on what Crystal Dynamics were allowed to do with their multi billion dollar franchise characters.

:sighs: Square Enix sold Crystal Dynamics and all their IP at least two years ago. Crystal Dynamics is now owned by the Embracer Group. Tomb Raider I-II-III Remastered is on the Crystal Dynamics website, but the website has no way to make contact. Aspyr is clearly working under contract by Crystal Dynamics/Embracer Group.

So, the next question would be; does Aspyr have a website where they can be contacted?

I know Square doesn't own Tomb Raider anymore and thank God they don't. Tomb Raider came out relatively unscathed but the other franchises they bought didn't. Deus Ex for example.

[Neblunoa]

The only thing I didn't like was the color of the sand, as you are saying is too yellow. But I really liked the rest, the levels they showed look very beautiful, Venice included.

[3D Master]

Originally posted by sequence:

I know Square doesn't own Tomb Raider anymore and thank God they don't. Tomb Raider came out relatively unscathed but the other franchises they bought didn't. Deus Ex for example.

Are you kidding me? Tomb Raider is horrible these days, apart from some side content the Daddy Chaser doesn't even raid any tombs.

[Loneck]

Originally posted by 3D Master:

Originally posted by sequence:

I know Square doesn't own Tomb Raider anymore and thank God they don't. Tomb Raider came out relatively unscathed but the other franchises they bought didn't. Deus Ex for example.

Are you kidding me? Tomb Raider is horrible these days, apart from some side content the Daddy Chaser doesn't even raid any tombs.

I am not a fan of TR reboot series from Crystal Dynamics at all. I hope some day they will return to style of original TR games from Core. Whoever comes up with modernized original Lara movement from originals (sense of weight, more metodical manual movement and traversal) will be genius.

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by Loneck:

Originally posted by 3D Master:

Are you kidding me? Tomb Raider is horrible these days, apart from some side content the Daddy Chaser doesn't even raid any tombs.

I am not a fan of TR reboot series from Crystal Dynamics at all. I hope some day they will return to style of original TR games from Core. Whoever comes up with modernized original Lara movement from originals (sense of weight, more metodical manual movement and traversal) will be genius.

They would be geniuses. But they won't try because publishers don't allow anything that has risks. It's the death of creativity. The only chance of that happening is if an indie dev decides to do a TB clone with UE5 and that makes so much success that big publishers will copy it.

[6l3h22]

I'm not sure yet what to think of the stylized graphics. The Tomb Raider main series of games has always been about realistic graphics (unlike Crash or Spyro, for example), so it's a bit of a strange choice. I think it could work out okay and give the games a more modern look (I mean even Counter-Strike is stylized these days with CS2), but I'm not 100% sure.

[Loneck]

Originally posted by Ceceli Δ:

Originally posted by Loneck:

I am not a fan of TR reboot series from Crystal Dynamics at all. I hope some day they will return to style of original TR games from Core. Whoever comes up with modernized original Lara movement from originals (sense of weight, more metodical manual movement and traversal) will be genius.

They would be geniuses. But they won't try because publishers don't allow anything that has risks. It's the death of creativity. The only chance of that happening is if an indie dev decides to do a TB clone with UE5 and that makes so much success that big publishers will copy it.

Maybe there could be lower budget TR game series similar to Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light and Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris but with more classic gameplay and they could perhaps involve best people who created TRLE levels. This could be low risk projects.