I cannot make Lara do any kind of a somersault, Into the water.

[Indiana]

I can still make her dive, but she will not turn in the air. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I am hitting swan dive and then roll, she won't even dive after I hit roll. Any help would really be appreciated.

[aeglosistarion]

So you want her to do a swan dive, and then somersault in the air, right? For the TR2 achievement, I'm guessing?

Just do the swan dive as usual, and then hold roll. She'll keep doing somersaults until she hits the ground/surface of the water.

Oh, and this move isn't in TR1, only TR2 and 3.

[Indiana]

Originally posted by aeglosistarion:

So you want her to do a swan dive, and then somersault in the air, right? For the TR2 achievement, I'm guessing?

Just do the swan dive as usual, and then hold roll. She'll keep doing somersaults until she hits the ground/surface of the water.

Oh, and this move isn't in TR1, only TR2 and 3.

I was doing just that, and It isn't working. But thanks.

[aeglosistarion]

In my defense, you said you "hit" the roll button, so it's not unreasonable to think that maybe the issue was that you were just pressing or mashing the button instead of holding it. My apologies.

Are you maybe rushing the inputs? If you press and hold roll immediately after initiating the swan dive, it's possible that you're cancelling out of it. Take it slower, and it should work.

The swan dive is a pretty drawn-out animation, and she won't start doing the somersaults until it is finished anyway so you have a pretty big window. Try holding down Roll at the apex of the dive, when she's spreading her arms, that should do the trick.

[Indiana]

Originally posted by aeglosistarion:

In my defense, you said you "hit" the roll button and, so it's not unreasonable to think that maybe the issue was that you were just pressing or mashing the button instead of holding it. My apologies.

Are you maybe rushing the inputs? If you press and hold roll immediately after initiating the swan dive, it's possible to cancel out of it with the roll. Take it slower, and it should work.

The swan dive is a pretty drawn-out animation, and she won't start doing the somersaults until it is finished anyway so you have a pretty big window. Try holding down Roll at the apex of the dive, when she's spreading her arms, that should do the trick.

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. It wasn't working at all. I tried everything, then I went back to the control settings and messed with that again. It started working after that, and using what you said about waiting then hitting roll. I had done that before and it didn't work, strange. Thank you so much for the help. I hope it still works when I go back to the game.

[Thornok]

let me guess .. you are using 'modern' controls

[Indiana]

Originally posted by Thornok:

let me guess .. you are using 'modern' controls

Of course not..I started out on the pc controls when it first came out, I think it is the best way to play. Played it in 1997 this way.
I like tank controls better, the controller doesn't seem to work well for me.. Specially turning around and stuff, just seems clunky with controller.
I can't seem to make her go out far enough to hit the water.

[Thornok]

ok it works on my side, maybe the timing was not right

happens to me sometimes too

[Thornok]

Originally posted by Indiana:

Originally posted by Thornok:

ok it works on my side, maybe the timing was not right

happens to me sometimes too

um huh?

maybe the height is not enough to make her turn

[Indiana]

Originally posted by Thornok:

Originally posted by Indiana:

um huh?

maybe the height is not enough to make her turn

Its pretty high, its just that the water is farther up, I have to get her to dive out farther somehow.

[aeglosistarion]

At the risk of spoiling the joy of discovery, here's a video of how it should look. That's not the only spot in the game that can get you the achievement, just an example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZYEKD-IkNA

[Indiana]

Originally posted by aeglosistarion:

At the risk of spoiling the joy of discovery, here's a video of how it should look. That's not the only spot in the game that can get you the achievement, just an example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZYEKD-IkNA

Yah I finally got the jump....Now I just have a roll bug every time I try to do the jump. lol. Thanks.

[aeglosistarion]

That's odd. Can't say I'm familiar with all the bugs in the game, but that's not one I've ever heard of. Does this happen when you play with M+KB, too? That might be a way to determine whether it's the game or your controller that's the issue. Nothing personal, btw, about the other thing. It's not something I do in general.

[Indiana]

Originally posted by aeglosistarion:

That's odd. Can't say I'm familiar with all the bugs in the game, but that's not one I've ever heard of. Does this happen when you play with M+KB, too? That might be a way to determine whether it's the game or your controller that's the issue. Nothing personal, btw, about the other thing. It's not something I do in general.

I am using mouse and keyboard. I always use them on these games. TR 123456

[aeglosistarion]

Originally posted by Indiana:

I am using mouse and keyboard. I always use them on these games. TR 123456

Misread your earlier reply, my bad.

Still, if you have access to a controller the test I mentioned could help narrow down the source of this involuntary roll problem. Alternatively you could load up that "auto-roll" save you mentioned, unplug your keyboard and see if that stops it.

If it does, try reinstalling your keyboard driver, or checking your keyboard for mechanical issues like stuck keys or dirt interfering with the inner workings. If not, verify the game files through Steam - if there's anything corrupted in the game data itself, Steam will redownload the affected files. (That might break any mods you have installed, though).

By the way, do you have this roll issue when you start a new game or the tutorial level, too?

[Indiana]

Originally posted by aeglosistarion:

Misread your earlier reply, my bad.

Still, if you have access to a controller the test I mentioned could help narrow down the source of this involuntary roll problem. Alternatively you could load up that "auto-roll" save you mentioned, unplug your keyboard and see if that stops it.

If it does, try reinstalling your keyboard driver, or checking your keyboard for mechanical issues like stuck keys or dirt interfering with the inner workings. If not, verify the game files through Steam - if there's anything corrupted in the game data itself, Steam will redownload the affected files. (That might break any mods you have installed, though).

I have a laptop, But I will try my controller. It is automatically hooked up already.