So I'm shooting at wolves but the start menu keeps opening up

[Id]

and I am only holding the shoot button and moving the analog stick, wtf is going on?!?

[Nightmare]

Good day to you too 🫡

Does this only happen while shooting?
And how frequently?
What game controller?
Have you tried Tank Controls just to be sure it's not modern controls related?
Other games work perfectly?

Cheers!

[Id]

Originally posted by Nightmare:

Good day to you too 🫡

Does this only happen while shooting?
And how frequently?
What game controller?
Have you tried Tank Controls just to be sure it's not modern controls related?
Other games work perfectly?

Cheers!

This only happens when Im in close combat against a bear or a wolf and I'm trying to get away. When I'm at a distance it doesn't happen. I'm using a BEITONG Asura 2 Pro and Im using Tank Controls. I've had no issues when playing a game like the Monster Hunter Wilds Beta or other action games.

[aeglosistarion]

Originally posted by Id:

This only happens when Im in close combat against a bear or a wolf and I'm trying to get away. When I'm at a distance it doesn't happen. I'm using a BEITONG Asura 2 Pro and Im using Tank Controls. I've had no issues when playing a game like the Monster Hunter Wilds Beta or other action games.

When using tank controls, the LS and RS buttons ("stick click") both open the menu, despite not being listed as assigned buttons in the Controls menu. You're probably inadvertantly clicking in the Left Stick when things get hectic.

Two solutions:

1) Use the dpad instead of the stick - it's better suited to tank controls anyway.

2) Use the configuration software that came with the controller to unassign LS and RS - that way, clicking in the sticks won't send an input.

Or you could just play more carefully, but that has never worked for me ;-)

[Nightmare]

Good catch.

L3 usually opens the load save game screen.
R3 is for save game.

So yes, you're probably clicking the left stick.

Are you using Steam Big Picture mode or just the simple Desktop app?
With Steam Big Picture mode you can easily reconfigure buttons.

Edit:
Using DPad is a good idea, but the OP's gamepad is xbox style, so it will be unergonomic.
Playstation style is better for Tomb Raider tank controls.
(I use a Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 just for Tomb Raider 😉)

Cheers!

[aeglosistarion]

I used to play TR on Xbox controllers for years and lived to tell about it, so it can be done...

...but yeah PS-style was always better. I'm using a DS4 now and I honestly like it better as a PC gamepad than I ever did as a console controller, especially with all the cool stuff you can assign to the touchpad via Steam Input. On PS4 most games just used it as an extra button and that was it - total waste of a feature.

[Id]

Originally posted by aeglosistarion:

Originally posted by Id:

This only happens when Im in close combat against a bear or a wolf and I'm trying to get away. When I'm at a distance it doesn't happen. I'm using a BEITONG Asura 2 Pro and Im using Tank Controls. I've had no issues when playing a game like the Monster Hunter Wilds Beta or other action games.

When using tank controls, the LS and RS buttons ("stick click") both open the menu, despite not being listed as assigned buttons in the Controls menu. You're probably inadvertantly clicking in the Left Stick when things get hectic.

Two solutions:

1) Use the dpad instead of the stick - it's better suited to tank controls anyway.

2) Use the configuration software that came with the controller to unassign LS and RS - that way, clicking in the sticks won't send an input.

Or you could just play more carefully, but that has never worked for me ;-)

I will unassign the L3 and R3 next time I play. The D Pad on my controller isn't really comfortable enough for an action game like this.

[Nightmare]

Originally posted by aeglosistarion:

especially with all the cool stuff you can assign to the touchpad via Steam Input. On PS4 most games just used it as an extra button and that was it - total waste of a feature.

Sounds interesting.
What exactly did you assign?
I'm thinking about replacing my Cordless Rumblepad 2 one day since it's super old and I don't think it will last forever.
And do you need any special drivers and tools for the DS4 or does Steam detect it automatically?

I would have no problem to use it wired, btw

Cheers!

[Id]

Originally posted by Nightmare:

Good catch.

L3 usually opens the load save game screen.
R3 is for save game.

So yes, you're probably clicking the left stick.

Are you using Steam Big Picture mode or just the simple Desktop app?
With Steam Big Picture mode you can easily reconfigure buttons.

Edit:
Using DPad is a good idea, but the OP's gamepad is xbox style, so it will be unergonomic.
Playstation style is better for Tomb Raider tank controls.
(I use a Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2 just for Tomb Raider 😉)

Cheers!

It was me accidently clicking in the left stick somehow. I'm in the Lost Valley now, I unassigned the L3 and R3 and placed them on the two extra buttons I have on the back of my controller just in case I need them for different games. The problem never happened ever again.

[aeglosistarion]

Originally posted by Nightmare:

Sounds interesting.
What exactly did you assign?
I'm thinking about replacing my Cordless Rumblepad 2 one day since it's super old and I don't think it will last forever.
And do you need any special drivers and tools for the DS4 or does Steam detect it automatically?

I would have no problem to use it wired, btw

Cheers!

Wall of text incoming. Remember, you (technically) asked for this. I'm sorry.

When you use it wired, Steam detects it automatically, no extra drivers required. For wireless use you still need DS4Windows, I think, but I always connect it via USB so I can't say for sure. As for the touchpad, it basically inherited all the features they developed for the Steam Controller.

HISTORICAL CONTEXT NOBODY ASKED FOR

That thing came with two circular touchpads instead of the usual dual sticks, and the idea was that you could program those to emulate all sorts of inputs - mouse, trackball, joystick, up to 4 face buttons each, scrollwheel etc. - in order to play all sorts of games, whether they were built with controllers in mind or M+KB only.

This was back when Valve were exploring the idea of "Steam machines", small PCs in a console form factor that people could put under their TV to play Steam games in the living room - the Steam Controller was basically their "universal remote" for games.

I'M NOT GETTING PAID BY SONY, I SWEAR

The DS4 combines the familiar form factor of a standard controller with the versatility of the Steam Controller's touchpad features.

The feature I primarily use are the touch menus: They're graphical interfaces that pop up whenever you touch the pad, and can be assigned to any input or input combo you want - you then use touch controls to select the tile you want, and then click in the touchpad button to confirm.

I play a lot of old-school FPS games, and back in the day when shooters were a PC-first genre they were not shy about using half the keyboard for all sorts of commands - inventory shortcuts, quest logs, quicksave/quickload of course - that you could never fit on a standard controller with its limited number of buttons. With the touch menus I have all that at my fingertips without having to constantly reach over for my keyboard.

THE DS4 IS BASICALLY JESUS COME AGAIN, WE GET IT

There are certain drawbacks: The touchpad is positioned a little awkwardly, and you have to take your thumbs of the stick to reach it, which means you can't move/look around for a moment whenever you use it, so it's not suitable for commands that you need in hectic moments like combat or platforming gauntlets, but the convenience of having basically another 10-20 programmable buttons on your controller far outweighs those. And in all honesty, I sometimes enjoy fiddling with my custom control scheme more than the actual game - it's like its own little puzzle game.

Oh, and the DS4 also supports gyro aiming. I don't use it myself, but a lot of people swear by it, especially when you combine gyro with stick aiming to compensate for each methods weaknesses and combine their strengths. Takes some getting used to, though, and I can't be bothered.

CLOSING THOUGHTS BECAUSE WHY STOP NOW

I used to stick to Xbox controllers because back in the 360 era it was often the only reliable option on PC. But even back then I used third party software to use it as a KB+M replacement for Windows desktop apps, before Valve added that functionality for Big Picture mode. So when I found out how much more versatile the DS4 was, that was it for me. I always liked that controller anyway - ergonomically I still like it better than the DualSense, even when using it on console - so that's gonna be my chosen pad until I can't find new ones anymore.

Of course, all of this would be moot if Steam Input wasn't such a well-implemented feature with such incredible depth and granularity in terms of what you can do with it. I'm just scratching the surface of it myself, but... other than Steam itself, it's probably the best thing Valve have ever done for PC gaming. And for me personally it's a godsend, because due to chronic wrist issues when using M+KB I could probably not play half the games in my Steam library without risking permanent disability.