Tomb Raider I-III Remastered Starring Lara Croft

Tomb Raider I-III Remastered Starring Lara Croft

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Zombine3D Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:10am
AI textures
A lot look horrible and show something wrong, like instead of grass and plants we get green stones. Also how come there are 100 people that worked on the remaster but only like 10 people made the OG?
In all honesty a pretty good remaster but the AI textures are bad, no way around it.
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Pheex Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:14am 
I'm not going to say your opinion is wrong it's your opinion, but so far I'm not finding a lot of big problems with the upscaled textures and most seem to fit in pretty well.

I did notice Lara's home bookshelves have 4 ft high books in them and some doors in Lara's home have skewed textures on the bottom panels.

But overall, so far, I was expecting a lot worse.
Lukyz Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:15am 
Where exactly? I didn't notice anything so far.
VVakba Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:24am 
Textures doesn't seem AI upscaled to me, rather recreated from scratch.
Zombine3D Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by Pheex:
I'm not going to say your opinion is wrong it's your opinion, but so far I'm not finding a lot of big problems with the upscaled textures and most seem to fit in pretty well.

I did notice Lara's home bookshelves have 4 ft high books in them and some doors in Lara's home have skewed textures on the bottom panels.

But overall, so far, I was expecting a lot worse.
There are a lot of architecture textures that are AI upscaled/generated. Look at the writing of the Gods in Greece and textures there too in general. Switch around between old and new graphics.

The stretching is due to old engine and how the game is built so that is not the issue that I am talking about. I am more talking about similar issues that were in GTA "Remastered" Trilogy. Nothing nearly as bad here but I would pay 20 bucks more if it meant that everything had a human touch.
Zombine3D Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by VVakba:
Textures doesn't seem AI upscaled to me, rather recreated from scratch.
Look again. The problem is that there is a mix between the two.
Batman Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:37am 
Originally posted by VVakba:
Textures doesn't seem AI upscaled to me, rather recreated from scratch.
Nah, they said they're AI upscaled. Keep in mind that AI upscaling is pretty much how all remasters are done (except the Diablo 2 Remaster, which is basically a remake at that point). An exception is the Darksiders Warmastered edition, where they couldn't use AI upscaling because they had lost the original assets and needed new UVs, so they made a whole lot of new textures.
Cellardoor Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:37am 
Originally posted by VVakba:
Textures doesn't seem AI upscaled to me, rather recreated from scratch.
They did use AI for upscaling as it was stated by the developers, however it wasn't done unsupervised and without human artists to retouch/remaster and fix issues. I've not seen anything wrong so far at all.
Zombine3D Feb 14, 2024 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by derrick:
Originally posted by Cellardoor:
They did use AI for upscaling as it was stated by the developers, however it wasn't done unsupervised and without human artists to retouch/remaster and fix issues. I've not seen anything wrong so far at all.

That's right, and I could understand why due to some of the more obscure texture tiles of the original to understand what it was, and then the texture artist touch it with supervision.
But the issue I have is with the textures that were not touched up whatsoever and ere not even obscure in the first place.
Middy Feb 14, 2024 @ 7:56am 
Lara's hair pulsating is kinda creepy, not gonna lie.
Zombine3D Feb 14, 2024 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by Middy:
Lara's hair pulsating is kinda creepy, not gonna lie.
This too is weird. I have no idea how that happens.
Suicune Mar 13, 2024 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Cellardoor:
Originally posted by VVakba:
Textures doesn't seem AI upscaled to me, rather recreated from scratch.
They did use AI for upscaling as it was stated by the developers, however it wasn't done unsupervised and without human artists to retouch/remaster and fix issues. I've not seen anything wrong so far at all.

Then look again. Every singe texture made of multiple graphic tiles is horrible wrong.

Can see that here very obvious:
https://bsky.app/profile/toadsanime.bsky.social/post/3knl6a2f2qs2n
https://twitter.com/cockcock836363/status/1758134022109274443

They threw each tile one by one into the generator instead of connectiong those which belong together first. There was absolutely no one who cheacked if creating textures was done right. If there was a supervisor, they absolutely failed at their job.
Zombine3D Mar 13, 2024 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by Suicune:
Originally posted by Cellardoor:
They did use AI for upscaling as it was stated by the developers, however it wasn't done unsupervised and without human artists to retouch/remaster and fix issues. I've not seen anything wrong so far at all.

Then look again. Every singe texture made of multiple graphic tiles is horrible wrong.

Can see that here very obvious:
https://bsky.app/profile/toadsanime.bsky.social/post/3knl6a2f2qs2n
https://twitter.com/cockcock836363/status/1758134022109274443

They threw each tile one by one into the generator instead of connectiong those which belong together first. There was absolutely no one who cheacked if creating textures was done right. If there was a supervisor, they absolutely failed at their job.
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DarkMoe Mar 13, 2024 @ 3:54pm 
I dont care if they used AI or not, only the end result is important. They still need to fix some weird textures (that already existed in the original), but so far it looks very good
Zombine3D Mar 14, 2024 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by DarkMoe:
I dont care if they used AI or not, only the end result is important. They still need to fix some weird textures (that already existed in the original), but so far it looks very good
I am at the end of 3 now and a lot of textures that blend in together in the classic graphics stand out and are mismatched in the HD mode
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Date Posted: Feb 14, 2024 @ 6:10am
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