Patch the damn "Glitches"

[elite_dude]

You don't have to memorize the places, Keys And solving puzzles anymore...
It's just terrible... You have to learn how to do glitches, Especially in tomb raider 2
which it is crazy full of glitches and exactly like the original tomb raider games
and devs they didn't patched it!...

But watch players when they do speed run in resident evil remastered and
resident evil 2 remake...There is no glitches or ballcrap like in tomb raider remastered...

I'm not interesting anymore with speed run in this game coz i don't like to use and
memorize the glitches to skip a level and unjoyable for me...

EDIT:
My point is for speed runs using tons of glitches and memorize them to skip levels to be in the leaderboard...

EDIT:
for my opinion :)
Glitches are terrible in tomb raider, Each level has 2-3 glitches to
teleport and skip the entire level by 50%-70% and they need to add
leaderboard in to this game and patch the glitches, So players they
don't have to learn and use glitches to get the best score!.

[Kenichip]

In before his next post of "Shortcuts shouldn't be allowed and patched" because it's so broken and cheating alike for crazy big skip major section of the levels. And some of speedrun strats are part of the achievements.
Even play the game in developer intended route, this game can still be beaten under 5 hours and 6 hours is way too lenient, and still need to memorize the game on enemy appearances, where to go and what to do next like speedrunner does. Secondly, this isn't competitive game, there's no leaderboard for this. Speedrunners have their own leaderboard but that's none of our business.

[EF_Neo1st]

Look, example of terrible games full of glitches that will "never be fixed":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gECESOoU8Es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLphAlLQNiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFf4APizCs4
Dont know how these develoipers live up to this day with such glitched games

[ikkuzu]

let's not forget the pokemon glitched run, that let's you trigger the credits without even leaving your bedroom

[EF_Neo1st]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH2-oM7IWpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUQ0p9FWznE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1LXrcpgDhY
and devs never fixed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMestfpYPXA

And no one but the speedrrunners themselves care about it AND they separate the glitched speedruns from the glitchless any% speedruns from the glitchless 100% speedruns, because "they are the ones that care".

Devs leaving the glitches from the originals mean they kept the game faithful to the originals and not only I see no need for them to change it as it is fun that they left it, I finished these games without glitches but it is fun to go finding the glitches (or in the case of the remaster to find out al the glitches I knew back in the day are still here, either to "complete a level faster" or just to "reach somewhere unreachable without the glitch" or even out of bounds or near out of bounds just for the sake of doing it.)

[Vic Viper]

Originally posted by GamerXT:

Originally posted by Vic Viper:

And no one liked that.

No one being like 3 people.

Who liked it then? Regular players who don't use the backwards long jump in the first place and would be absolutely unaffected by it being there or not?

Glitches are often fun and sometimes very difficult to trigger when it's not on purpose. Removing a fun glitch is a net loss. It's not a balance patch for a fighting game or fixing a game breaking glitch.

Speedrunners who want to play glitchless just avoid using the glitch. Regular players don't know or don't use unless it's for personal fun. Speedrunners using glitches have less options, to the point where their runs can be moot.

So I repeat: no one liked that.

[elite_dude]

Originally posted by Kenichip:

In before his next post of "Shortcuts shouldn't be allowed and patched" because it's so broken and cheating alike for crazy big skip major section of the levels. And some of speedrun strats are part of the achievements.
Even play the game in developer intended route, this game can still be beaten under 5 hours and 6 hours is way too lenient, and still need to memorize the game on enemy appearances, where to go and what to do next like speedrunner does. Secondly, this isn't competitive game, there's no leaderboard for this. Speedrunners have their own leaderboard but that's none of our business.

1st stop twisting my words when you said:
In before his next post of "Shortcuts shouldn't be allowed and patched"
you are mistaken or lying...
This is my 2nd thread in tomp raider remastered and i didn't post something like this
and for my opinion shortcuts without using glitches to
teleport and skipping the entire level and this is a "glitch shortcut"

[Kenichip]

Originally posted by Jalajil:

1st stop twisting my words when you said:
In before his next post of "Shortcuts shouldn't be allowed and patched"
you are mistaken or lying...
This is my 2nd thread in tomp raider remastered and i didn't post something like this
and for my opinion shortcuts without using glitches to
teleport and skipping the entire level and this is a "glitch shortcut"

Well, look what we have here. Skipped all the replies from others. Here's the second lesson for you for the day :

"In before" is an expression commonly used on discussion forums and imageboards to forecast an anticipated response or a predictable outcome within a given thread.

No one here is twisting your words and I were merely just anticipating the possible response judging from your past replies. Your replies are the ones that implying very strong impression on "glitches are cheating and should be patched" because "I hate it". Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if "major shortcuts also considered cheating" coming from you as well.

Originally posted by Jalajil:

I'm not interesting anymore with speed run in this game coz i don't like to use and memorize the glitches to skip a level and unjoyable for me...

The thing is YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEARN GLITCHES to beat this game and get all achievements, including the "under 6 hours". Just the same way as saying "I want to beat this game at my own way or pace".
Yet you decided to watch speedruns and condemned them for ruining your 'fun' because they don't match with your expectations which nobody cares about. You're living in a very small confined world with so minimal exposure, have some time to watch the speedruns on other games posted by others earlier.

No one cares if that's your first or second or or 100th or 1000th thread/post, the context is all that matters.

[elite_dude]

Originally posted by Kenichip:

Originally posted by Jalajil:

1st stop twisting my words when you said:
In before his next post of "Shortcuts shouldn't be allowed and patched"
you are mistaken or lying...
This is my 2nd thread in tomp raider remastered and i didn't post something like this
and for my opinion shortcuts without using glitches to
teleport and skipping the entire level and this is a "glitch shortcut"

Well, look what we have here. Skipped all the replies from others. Here's the second lesson for you for the day :

"In before" is an expression commonly used on discussion forums and imageboards to forecast an anticipated response or a predictable outcome within a given thread.

No one here is twisting your words and I were merely just anticipating the possible response judging from your past replies. Your replies are the ones that implying very strong impression on "glitches are cheating and should be patched" because "I hate it". Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if "major shortcuts also considered cheating" coming from you as well.

Originally posted by Jalajil:

I'm not interesting anymore with speed run in this game coz i don't like to use and memorize the glitches to skip a level and unjoyable for me...

The thing is YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEARN GLITCHES to beat this game and get all achievements, including the "under 6 hours". Just the same way as saying "I want to beat this game at my own way or pace".
Yet you decided to watch speedruns and condemned them for ruining your 'fun' because they don't match with your expectations which nobody cares about. You're living in a very small confined world with so minimal exposure, have some time to watch the speedruns on other games posted by others earlier.

No one cares if that's your first or second or or 100th or 1000th thread/post, the context is all that matters.

And again you are twisting my words and mixing it up at the same time... And you are wrong and im not against shortcuts but without using glitches. resident evil hd remastered is so clean and i think few glitches but not big like in tr remastered

"glitches are cheating and should be patched"
Yes that's my opinion :) if each level has a glitch to skip 50%-70% for each level,
it's cheats in my opinion and broken but in your opinion it's a shortcut!s :)

and i know there are pro glitches streamers they are using it and the
company of this game they dont care...

And i thought this game has leaderboard , So devs they need to patch the glitches and
people they don't have to learn the glitches to get the best score...

and i hope they will add a leaderboard + patching the glitches for my opinion.

and stop milking it up again, i didn't say i have to use glitches to unlock the achievements
or beat the game in less than 6 hours.... and ii didn't use any glitch.

[xXTombRaiderXx]

shut up troll

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Jalajil:

Originally posted by Kenichip:

Well, look what we have here. Skipped all the replies from others. Here's the second lesson for you for the day :

No one here is twisting your words and I were merely just anticipating the possible response judging from your past replies. Your replies are the ones that implying very strong impression on "glitches are cheating and should be patched" because "I hate it". Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if "major shortcuts also considered cheating" coming from you as well.



The thing is YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEARN GLITCHES to beat this game and get all achievements, including the "under 6 hours". Just the same way as saying "I want to beat this game at my own way or pace".
Yet you decided to watch speedruns and condemned them for ruining your 'fun' because they don't match with your expectations which nobody cares about. You're living in a very small confined world with so minimal exposure, have some time to watch the speedruns on other games posted by others earlier.

No one cares if that's your first or second or or 100th or 1000th thread/post, the context is all that matters.

And again you are twisting my words and mixing it up at the same time... And you are wrong and im not against shortcuts but without using glitches. resident evil hd remastered is so clean and i think few glitches but not big like in tr remastered

"glitches are cheating and should be patched"
Yes that's my opinion :) if each level has a glitch to skip 50%-70% for each level,
it's cheats in my opinion and broken but in your opinion it's a shortcut!s :)

and i know there are pro glitches streamers they are using it and the
company of this game they dont care...

And i thought this game has leaderboard , So devs they need to patch the glitches and
people they don't have to learn the glitches to get the best score...

and i hope they will add a leaderboard + patching the glitches for my opinion.

and stop milking it up again, i didn't say i have to use glitches to unlock the achievements
or beat the game in less than 6 hours.... and ii didn't use any glitch.

Point of others (and I mysellf pointed it out)) is that "glitchless runs" can be performed way under the 6h mark (where I guessed you complain about "I'm not interesting anymore with speed run in this game coz i don't like to use and
memorize the glitches to skip a level and unjoyable for me..." because it not only is not true as it is also not true in any speeedrun comunity because a speedrun community separates glitched runs from glitchless runs aand also separate "any% glitchless" from "100% glitchless" runs, making your whole complaint pointless.
Also, yes, the game dont have a leaderboard, making your complaint even more pointless.

[ikkuzu]

why don't you just go to the tomb raider speedrun forums and politely ask everyone to stop using glitches? :)

[Kenichip]

Originally posted by Jalajil:

And again you are twisting my words and mixing it up at the same time... And you are wrong and im not against shortcuts but without using glitches. resident evil hd remastered is so clean and i think few glitches but not big like in tr remastered

"glitches are cheating and should be patched"
Yes that's my opinion :) if each level has a glitch to skip 50%-70% for each level,
it's cheats in my opinion and broken but in your opinion it's a shortcut!s :)

and i know there are pro glitches streamers they are using it and the
company of this game they dont care...

And i thought this game has leaderboard , So devs they need to patch the glitches and
people they don't have to learn the glitches to get the best score...

I'm sorry but you're really misunderstood everything I said earlier. I didn't say anything whether "you're support nor boycott against shortcuts" but "anticipation" which could be happened or not happened, and most of the time it won't be happened as I said this earlier. Don't try to fight back my words.

Fyi, RE1 HD Remastered is based on a REMAKE of RE1 (1996) that was released on Gamecube in 2002. It was totally built on different game engine compared to Original RE1, thus the glitches would be different from original game engine. Your given example is ultimately a bad comparison, so does RE2 Remake which is totally a brand new game and very different playstyle that can't be comparable in any means.

Originally posted by Jalajil:

and i hope they will add a leaderboard + patching the glitches for my opinion.

and stop milking it up again, i didn't say i have to use glitches to unlock the achievements
or beat the game in less than 6 hours.... and ii didn't use any glitch.

What for to have leaderboard? Is it so you can secretly 'speedrun' the game, at the same time wish to patch glitches just because you hate it? The world doesn't revolves around you bruh. You're in serious mentally ill.

One doesn't have to say word by word exactly, your tone replies are well implied your disgusting behavior. And this is not twisting and mixing. Choose to open a rant thread with demanding tone for request to fix glitches that is not an opinion thread imho.

[ikkuzu]

OP, you keep talking about leaderboards and RE1 remake speedruns being glitchless. have you ever taken a look at RE1 ingame leaderboards? they're stuffed with 0:00:01 times. same thing would happen to tomb raider, even if they patched every single glitch in existence.

[Kenichip]

Originally posted by Jalajil:

I'm not interesting anymore with speed run in this game coz i don't like to use and
memorize the glitches to skip a level and unjoyable for me...

Originally posted by Jalajil:

Glitches are terrible in tomb raider, Each level has 2-3 glitches to
teleport and skip the entire level by 50%-70% and they need to add
leaderboard in to this game and patch the glitches,

Don't have interest on speedrun yet asking for leaderboard and patching glitches.
How irony his/her contradiction is.

Originally posted by Jalajil:

So players they don't have to learn and use glitches to get the best score!.

"they" probably refer to OP him/herself as if he/she makes the speedrun rules, what a troll.

Edit :
I would only add more of OP foolishness replies here since OP is a tryhard failed troll.

Originally posted by Jalajil:

Yep this is my opinion and things like you when they say irony or troll they are just empty!....
2nd i don't put rules i'm seeing a lot of glitches in this game and for my opinion they need
to fix it.

Except the fact that you don't express your opinion but rather rudely demand for it.
Secondly, you don't have any stand points to express your opinion on the matter that doesn't affect nor related with you. You don't speedrun the game but choose to intervene on speedrun matters, crossing the line and persist on your 'opinion'. Thus, that's the irony contradiction we're talking about, it didn't come from nothing. It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and keep your thought shut from public but to yourself. Your 'opinion' doesn't matter as your reasons are completely made up and solely based on hatred.

Originally posted by Jalajil:

What's wrong with those tr2 speedrunners and they finish the game without using glitches to skip levels.

Nothing wrong with them, so does the speedrunners that using glitches. The only thing wrong here is your mindset and 'opinion'. Have you realize why all replies here not agreed with your 'opinion'? If you failed to realize, keep cooking your clown acts.

[Rorenado]

The benign glitches were left in, because they don't cause any real issues. Besides, they were also left in to create a sense of authenticity. Many people who were wanting these games ported also are active in the greater classic TR community, and some even speedrun the game. Some of the glitches can also save a lot of headaches, medi kits, and ammo. Besides, the game gives you six hours to beat the game for the achievement. With skill and knowledge of the game's mechanics and levels, most people should be able to finish within that threshold.

I should also state that two of the people who worked on the game are big TR modders and bug fixers. One of which is pretty involved in the TR speedrunning community.