Lara doesn't pull the dagger from the dragons belly

[Simse]

When I see walkthroughs it looks very easy, but somehow I can't do it. I've tried about 30 times now. I've played this game many times on PS1 and never had any trouble. Can anyone help? This is just so annoying

[McCloud]

Seen this reported several times here, other forums, and many video tuts explain this is a thing. Yes, it is the only part of the game I couldn't complete, moved on TR3. Just couldn't "align the stars" to make this happen. It's in Gods hands now. lol


EDIT: oh yeah! Que the "I did it first try" people.

[dml!]

Are you using modern controls? I just tried it out of interest and it seems that the secondary action button (which is usually the same as shooting) doesn't work, you have to use the dedicated action button.

Beyond that I don't know what to say. I've heard many reports that the positioning is janky, but I never had much problem myself. Though ideally you want to kill it away from walls and the central area, because the water holes can block access, and walls will sometimes force you to run all the way around the dragon as its head is blocking, by which time it's too late. But if it's in a good place, I just try to position myself as centrally as possible to where the dagger is, and if it doesn't activate immediately I just run into the dragon whilst turning a bit to move position slightly until it does. It would have helped if they put an action indicator on it though, since there doesn't appear to be one. That way you could see if the positioning is correct.

[FhqwhTODD]

Originally posted by McCloud:

Que

Speaking Spanish?

[McCloud]

Originally posted by Gottkaiser Fhqwhgod:

Originally posted by McCloud:

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Speaking Spanish?

No but my wife does when she's angry at me. Hey, I take it as if: I'm off the hook cause I don't understand and can then plead my case legitimately. lol

[DogMeat]

Are you guys using the EGS patch? Does that help the situation?

[vinyblaster]

What controls are you guys using when facing this issue?

[McCloud]

TANK, no ESG patch. It almost feels like I'm desync with the enviroment cause when the dragon DOES get back up it always does a teleport of 1/2 meter sideways. IDK maybe I'm suppose to tickle its toes.

[DogMeat]

I have the ESG patch, but I'm just barely starting TR 2... so its going to be a good while before I can report whether the issue is fixed or not.

[chakkman]

You gotta be pretty precise with the positioning. Didn't work for me the first time either, but, the second time, it worked.

I've no idea how you're supposed to win that fight without using the dirty "stand behind the pillar and shoot grenades at him" trick though. I always end up in flames if I try anything else.

[McCloud]

Originally posted by chakkman:

I've no idea how you're supposed to win that fight without using the dirty "stand behind the pillar and shoot grenades at him" trick though. I always end up in flames if I try anything else.

This is the best walkthrough I found so far to win this fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU28GHMcYxM

[shadowgravy]

The dagger bug is an old one. Basically you had to be in the exact right spot to interact with the dagger. I haven't played the remasters version yet.

[dml!]

Originally posted by chakkman:

You gotta be pretty precise with the positioning. Didn't work for me the first time either, but, the second time, it worked.

I've no idea how you're supposed to win that fight without using the dirty "stand behind the pillar and shoot grenades at him" trick though. I always end up in flames if I try anything else.

Basically continuous flips (especially side) in one direction as soon as it's going to breathe fire. Keep shooting grenades as long as you're on target, if not stand and turn quickly if you're towards the rear quadrants of it and get ready to flip again before you get set on fire. And if you have to run away then continuous jumps away from it. Easier said than done though, and if you have to put yourself out in water you want to try and lure it to one corner as you surface, then swim right to the other corner to give yourself a small window to climb out and flip away as it moves pretty fast. I personally prefer to fight it towards the front of the arena as there's more space to move, but if you do get set on fire there you have to be quick with the medipacks as you jump back towards the water.

I actually tried it with modern controls to test the keys / buttons for removing the dagger, and if anything it felt slightly easier to fight, since if I could get alongside it facing towards its rear, I could keep circling so that it was always trying to get its head round to meet me, not giving it much angle to breathe fire.

[chakkman]

Originally posted by dml!:

Originally posted by chakkman:

You gotta be pretty precise with the positioning. Didn't work for me the first time either, but, the second time, it worked.

I've no idea how you're supposed to win that fight without using the dirty "stand behind the pillar and shoot grenades at him" trick though. I always end up in flames if I try anything else.

Basically continuous flips (especially side) in one direction as soon as it's going to breathe fire.

Ah, so the usual Core Design Tomb Raiders tactic. 😂

[Draculol]

Pillar "trick" with grenades is the best for regular and ng+ but running in circles works well too for pistol only or whatever. Getting the dagger works like in the original, meaning every now and then it doesn't xD

[gps]

Originally posted by shadowgravy:

The dagger bug is an old one. Basically you had to be in the exact right spot to interact with the dagger. I haven't played the remasters version yet.

This. I can't really remeber much about TR2 back then - but this was an issue in the nineties already. Without external help from some game magazin or guide I couldn't have done it.
If the issue is still there, then this is a sign of a high quality port. ;)
But I guess in this case it would make sense to have it fixed - at least as an option.