Incomplete patch notes.

[mommy croft]

These patch notes make the update sound so underwhelming. There's so many amazing changes that weren't featured in these notes. List of what I was able to gather:
- Modern Controls are now better (THEY FEEL INCREDIBLE NOW TRY THEM).
- Major changes to 40 Fathoms.
- Changes on Palace Midas (if you remember the Epic Games version then you know)
- Underwater blue tint. Surfaces look much more polished now as well.
- New photo mode poses + fixes on the already existing ones.
- Ability to move Lara while on Photo Mode (left and right click).
- Topology issues fixed (HUGE). Check https://twitter.com/DelcaTRLE/status/1767624246203662802
- Flowing water added in The Lost Valley.
- The health bar in TR1 now flashes when you're low on health.
- Bloody Lara model added for T-Rex death in Lost Valley.
- Added sparkles effect when Lara steps on Midas' hand.
- Updated shimmy sounds
- Tomb Cleaner and the crystals achievement from TR3 are now fixed (probably many other achievements have been fixed as well).
- The sunglasses cheat (walk+look on the loading screen) now spawns the quad bike on the gates of the TR3 manor.
- 32 poses for Photo Mode now, though they were locked behind some files. Check Nexus to unlock them. They're amazing.

NEW GAME + FIXES:
- Prisoners won't attack Lara right off the bat in High Security Compound on NG+.
- Crystals now remove the poison effect on TR3.
- The flamethrower guy in RX Tech Mines is now fixed. From what I've noticed, this guy will only turn agressive on Lara once the mutant is dead.

PLEASE try the update before you give it ♥♥♥♥. It is actually amazing and don't forget fans are the ones behind this project. Let's please show them our love <33
PS: To Aspyr: this update is amazing. Please let the next patch notes reflect all the hard work that was put into these improvements :)

[almost_a_jill_sandwich]

Lanzagranadas님이 먼저 게시:

I still didn't play TR3 or Lost Artifact, but loaded the first LA level and didn't notice any visual update, looks pretty bad compared to what I've seen in TR1 and 2 main games.

Maybe it gets better after Highland Fling, but honestly I doubt it. LA was probably at the bottom of the priority list.

i don't get where some people get off with these insane takes. you have no knowledge of TR3, but you are disappointed in the remaster? You literally have nothing to compare it to.

[almost_a_jill_sandwich]

i would much rather have condensed patch notes that don't require one hour of reading and cross referencing future patches to see what was done.

i know of so many EA games that release a meaningless laundry list of patch notes every few weeks, to the point where it becomes impossible to see what actually changed because anything the devs spent four seconds on became a bullet in the patch notes. and then the community is like OMG devs have 100 bullet points I love this patch without having any actual knowledge of what changed

people just want to attack these devs for being lazy, guess it's true what they say about the tomb raider community being toxic and argumentative, that's certainly the impression i've gotten from all of you post release.

[mommy croft]

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

i would much rather have condensed patch notes that don't require one hour of reading and cross referencing future patches to see what was done.

i know of so many EA games that release a meaningless laundry list of patch notes every few weeks, to the point where it becomes impossible to see what actually changed because anything the devs spent four seconds on became a bullet in the patch notes. and then the community is like OMG devs have 100 bullet points I love this patch without having any actual knowledge of what changed

people just want to attack these devs for being lazy, guess it's true what they say about the tomb raider community being toxic and argumentative, that's certainly the impression i've gotten from all of you post release.

I don't know if you meant this talking about my post but I didn't say "PLEASE try the update before you give it ♥♥♥♥. It is actually amazing and don't forget fans are the ones behind this project. Let's please show them our love <33" just because. If anything, I made this discussion because I saw people saying the update was ♥♥♥♥ on here. Sure, calling it lazy is not precisely kind or anything but I knew it would make a big statement and people would open this so they could know why this update is actually great.

[Lanzagranadas]

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

Lanzagranadas님이 먼저 게시:

I still didn't play TR3 or Lost Artifact, but loaded the first LA level and didn't notice any visual update, looks pretty bad compared to what I've seen in TR1 and 2 main games.

Maybe it gets better after Highland Fling, but honestly I doubt it. LA was probably at the bottom of the priority list.

i don't get where some people get off with these insane takes. you have no knowledge of TR3, but you are disappointed in the remaster? You literally have nothing to compare it to.

I still didn't play TR3 or Lost Artifact in this 2024 remaster. I did play both and every classic TR game & expansion many years ago.

Like I said, in this 2024 release I have not played TR3 or LA yet because I'm playing the games in order and I'm currently in TR2. But I did load Jungle and Highland Fling respectively to do a quick early game comparisson and I definitely have the impression that the remastered LA got the short end of the stick. It probably doesn't help that this expansion had more unique levels with custom tiles and textures, unlike for example UB, which recycled a lot of assets from the main game Atlantis and Egypt levels.

[mommy croft]

yall are doing way too much. how did this discussion go from highlighting everything that wasn't listed to whatever the ♥♥♥♥ this is. yall are grown ass men just go touch some grass and move on

[DogMeat]

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

Even if Tomb Raider is a popular series this remaster clearly had a relatively low budget. It was never going to do the numbers needed for a remaster at the level you seem to expect.

You don't know what I expect. If the game released in the state it is NOW I'd have been happy.

The state it was in for the last month was not acceptable as far as I'm concerned.

All they needed to do was delay it for a month.

Couldn't miss that special date though I guess.

Not really sure whats complicated about this.

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

I know you like to get rude with people who are happy with how it turned

I have actually gotten overly rude at some people. I should probably apologize to Lanza.

Now YOU and people like Jill Valentine here are often WAY more obnoxious than I am. Calling people with issues entitled and all the other stuff.

I'm merely giving what YOU and people like you dish out. If you don't like it, adjust YOUR attitude before you complain about MINE.

Heck the very reason 'I' became more obnoxious about my complaints is directly due to people like YOU.

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

out but people aren't dumb because they aren't bothered by small things

I didn't say you were dumb.

I said you were boot lickers, easily pleased and/or used to rushed unfinished products.

There is a difference.

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

like the skyboxes and have been happily playing this release.

I'm also happily playing the release. Especially now.

I have criticisms about how product could be improved.

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

I genuinely believe this remaster is better than we could have hoped for,

As established, low standards.

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

it includes 3 remastered games and the expansions for each for $30.

Great value.

Doesn't excuse a sloppy unfinished release with no communication.

I'd have preferred paying MORE MONEY for what we're getting RIGHT now from day one.

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

I've wanted a port of the games on an updated engine for years and I got that and more.

And you think I haven't?

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

Luckily it's sold enough that they are letting the developers put in more time to polish it up and fix some of the small issues.

You'd probably still be excusing it if there weren't going to be any patches at all.

[DogMeat]

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

makes 100+ posts critiquing literally anything they can think about
gets called out and tells me to calm down because all of their complaints are "minor".

Yes... I'm a fan... that's what fans do... they say HEY, this looked / worked better in the classics... could you maybe... um... fix it?

Then the white knights come along and call you names for expecting a good product.

THEN you get to embarrass them on a forum... so it kind of works out.

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

dude i don't know what you want out of this game,

The version we have now. That should have been the day one version. If they weren't ready and they needed this extra month they should have delayed it.

Game would also be getting better reviews too ACTUALLY increasing the odds of better sales. So... you're whole line of arguing isn't very forward thinking.

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

but you certainly seem to hate it.

I'll probably be giving it a positive review at this point.

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

such a shame, this game still brings tears to my eyes seeing areas from my childhood brought to life in the remaster,

You might want to get your t-levels checked.

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

guess I can just look past the minor issues and enjoy life maybe you should try the same instead of sitting on these threads all day airing your grievances

Issues that were fixed from day one... in another version... that they didn't hotfix from.

Ignorance is bliss.

Maybe if I hit myself in the head with a hammer multiple times I can adopt your outlook on life.

[DogMeat]

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

Yep not toxic at all lol

Shall I go find your original posts about people who had issue with the game?

You get what you give.

You obviously created this very thread to take a jab at people like me.
You obviously created that OTHER thread to take a jab at people like me.

Sorry, you're annoying in multiple threads... got confused.

The problem is... I'm right in this regard.

Its why all you'll ever have is responses that devolve into this.

That said I AM glad that YOU appear to have chilled out. I should probably let my irritation at you subside so we can just get a long.

We got the patch... its good. Fact is... it should have released like this.

[DogMeat]

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

dude go take a walk or something, i respect your posts and the banter but it's getting a bit out of hand

I'm greatly amused by this.

I hope you are too, but you're starting to stalk me in other threads. I'm not the one hunting down your posts to try and escalate things even further.

This is FUN for me!

[DogMeat]

Snake님이 먼저 게시:

Hello sir, why do you use so many...elipsis?

And don't know about paragraphs?

I mean, my points aren't getting through so I thought I'd try something different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ

[almost_a_jill_sandwich]

DogMeat님이 먼저 게시:

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

dude go take a walk or something, i respect your posts and the banter but it's getting a bit out of hand

I'm greatly amused by this.

I hope you are too, but you're starting to stalk me in other threads. I'm not the one hunting down your posts to try and escalate things even further.

This is FUN for me!

eh it's not so much fun for me. i really like this game, think i'll just stay away from the forums for a bit until a few patches. have a good night

[DogMeat]

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

eh it's not so much fun for me. i really like this game, think i'll just stay away from the forums for a bit until a few patches. have a good night

If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen with foolish arguments.

You're probably a very nice person in person and I bet you we'd get along just fine.

I'm simply not going to put up with being insulted over having standards about what I pay for.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but don't take your frustrations out on people you see as 'entitled' when they're perfectly entitled to critique the game.

EDIT: There, have a warm blanket.

Have a good night and take care of yourself... for real!

EDIT: I hope you're not genuinely upset. This is just online banter. Have fun with the game, relax and come back with some new positive posts. I'd love to see one about people's favorite music tracks from the series.

[Lanzagranadas]

almost_a_jill_sandwich님이 먼저 게시:

Lanzagranadas님이 먼저 게시:

for example UB, which recycled a lot of assets from the main game Atlantis and Egypt levels.

um wtf did you expect? that atlantis and UB would use entirely new assets? You do realize this game is a REMASTER?

ok i'm going to go give myself a lobotomy now to erase all of your from my memory, dear god what an entitled and ungrateful group of "fans"

No, I didn't expect what you think I expected, why are you getting mad over nothing? it's just a simple comparisson.

The point is that since the Unfinished Business expansion reused a lot of assets from the main game, that's less work for the remaster because they've already done most of the work with the remastering of Atlantis and Egypt from the main game.

The Lost Artifact, however, features more unique locations different from the main game, so that obviously would take more additional work to remaster, as they would have to rework a good chunk of assets just for that expansion.

[MEKK0]

Thanks for the info!

[Muhahahahaz]

franqui님이 먼저 게시:

These patch notes make the update sound so underwhelming. There's so many amazing changes that weren't featured in these notes. List of what I was able to gather:
- Modern Controls are now better (THEY FEEL INCREDIBLE NOW TRY THEM).
- Major changes to 40 Fathoms.
- Changes on Palace Midas (if you remember the Epic Games version then you know)
- Underwater blue tint. Surfaces look much more polished now as well.
- New photo mode poses + fixes on the already existing ones.
- Ability to move Lara while on Photo Mode (left and right click).
- Topology issues fixed (HUGE). Check https://twitter.com/DelcaTRLE/status/1767624246203662802
- Flowing water added in The Lost Valley.
- The health bar in TR1 now flashes when you're low on health.
- Bloody Lara model added for T-Rex death in Lost Valley.
- Added sparkles effect when Lara steps on Midas' hand.
- Updated shimmy sounds
- Tomb Cleaner and the crystals achievement from TR3 are now fixed (probably many other achievements have been fixed as well).
- Lara's hair bands are now yellow, just like in the promotional renders (used to be black).
PLEASE try the update before you give it ♥♥♥♥. It is actually amazing and don't forget fans are the ones behind this project. Let's please show them our love <33

NEW GAME + FIXES:
- Prisoners won't attack Lara right off the bat in High Security Compound on NG+.
- Crystals now remove the poison effect on TR3.

PS: To Aspyr: this update is amazing. Please let the next patch notes reflect all the hard work that was put into these improvements :)

Thank you for this!

As soon as I saw the patch notes, I came here looking for answers. It seemed clear that the patch notes were incomplete, and I wanted to know what actually changed. Kinda strange that they didn’t mention some of this… Especially the controls + camera

These updates are great news! I think my best friend will finally be able to play (he wanted to use the modern controls, but I couldn’t really recommend them at the time lol)