No update patch for the GOG version?

[Gotera]

Every other platform got updated at the same time, yet the GOG version has not been updated yet as of this writing.
I feel really bummed here. I opted for the GOG version because I love me a DRM free experience, yet we couldn't properly save on launch day until they released the 1.01 patch on GOG, now we don't have the certainty that we will be able to update the game like all the other versions already have.
I don't wanna sound entitled, and I'm enjoying the games a lot, but as a GOG version user I feel like we got the short end of the stick regarding this game's versions...

[DogMeat]

Its my understanding GOG always gets patches late.

Sorry. Its DRM free and second class citizen update status.

Also note, ALL versions of this game can be run DRM free. I can literally drag my Steam copy out of its install location, delete the Steam.api file and run it DRM free.

[chakkman]

Originally posted by Gotera:

Every other platform got updated at the same time, yet the GOG version has not been updated yet as of this writing.
I feel really bummed here. I opted for the GOG version because I love me a DRM free experience, yet we couldn't properly save on launch day until they released the 1.01 patch on GOG, now we don't have the certainty that we will be able to update the game like all the other versions already have.
I don't wanna sound entitled, and I'm enjoying the games a lot, but as a GOG version user I feel like we got the short end of the stick regarding this game's versions...

Relax, friend. It will come to GOG as well.

By the way, why are you asking here? Lol. GOG has a forum for the Tomb Raider games as well.

[Gotera]

Originally posted by chakkman:

Originally posted by Gotera:

Every other platform got updated at the same time, yet the GOG version has not been updated yet as of this writing.
I feel really bummed here. I opted for the GOG version because I love me a DRM free experience, yet we couldn't properly save on launch day until they released the 1.01 patch on GOG, now we don't have the certainty that we will be able to update the game like all the other versions already have.
I don't wanna sound entitled, and I'm enjoying the games a lot, but as a GOG version user I feel like we got the short end of the stick regarding this game's versions...

Relax, friend. It will come to GOG as well.

By the way, why are you asking here? Lol. GOG has a forum for the Tomb Raider games as well.

I did, actually, XD But the steam forums are always FAR more active

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Gotera:

I did, actually, XD But the steam forums are always FAR more active

I like the people on Steam a little more too.

[Gotera]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

Its my understanding GOG always gets patches late.

Sorry. Its DRM free and second class citizen update status.

Also note, ALL versions of this game can be run DRM free. I can literally drag my Steam copy out of its install location, delete the Steam.api file and run it DRM free.

Can you though? The GOG version needed a day one patch because the saving system didn't work just by using the file they usually use to circumvent Steam DRM
Ah... I'm such an idiot...

[chakkman]

Originally posted by Gotera:

Originally posted by chakkman:

Relax, friend. It will come to GOG as well.

By the way, why are you asking here? Lol. GOG has a forum for the Tomb Raider games as well.

I did, actually, XD But the steam forums are always FAR more active

Gotta say that I'm not surprised. I would be surprised if GOG had 1% of the users Steam has.

Not that I dislike GOG. I think they're doing some great stuff with the old games. I own Indiana Jones Infernal Machine both on Steam and on GOG, and the GOG version is patched for widescreen HD resolution out of the box, and works nicely, while the Steam version doesn't. Same with Splinter Cell 1. Works perfectly, even with shadows, which is a PITA to set up on other platforms which only offer the vanilla version.

Not sure if I like that "Hail DRM free" attitude though. I think the games industry has bigger problems than DRM or not. Everything which helps prevent piracy (and keeps the costs down in the process) is welcome for me.

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Gotera:

Can you though?

Run it DRM free? Absolutely. I used the method I describe to try some cheats and mods that I was worried about ruining my Steam installed version with. Literally just drag it to another folder, delete the .api file and you're good to go. It still used the same save location though. So I'd make a backup of the save file if I did something that required making new saves.

[Gotera]

Originally posted by chakkman:

Originally posted by Gotera:

I did, actually, XD But the steam forums are always FAR more active

Gotta say that I'm not surprised. I would be surprised if GOG had 1% of the users Steam has.

Not that I dislike GOG. I think they're doing some great stuff with the old games. I own Indiana Jones Infernal Machine both on Steam and on GOG, and the GOG version is patched for widescreen HD resolution out of the box, and works nicely, while the Steam version doesn't. Same with Splinter Cell 1. Works perfectly, even with shadows, which is a PITA to set up on other platforms which only offer the vanilla version.

Not sure if I like that "Hail DRM free" attitude though. I think the games industry has bigger problems than DRM or not. Everything which helps prevent piracy (and keeps the costs down in the process) is welcome for me.

The GOG versions of the Indiana Jones games are great, right? The GOG version of Star Wars KOTOR is great too, all the mods and stuff work flawlessly with that version. I guess GOG is the place to go for oldies that might get screwed when you try to retroactively patch trophies and that kinda stuff, but not so great when it comes to new releases. Oh well...

[Gotera]

Originally posted by DogMeat:

Originally posted by Gotera:

Can you though?

Run it DRM free? Absolutely. I used the method I describe to try some cheats and mods that I was worried about ruining my Steam installed version with. Literally just drag it to another folder, delete the .api file and you're good to go. It still used the same save location though. So I'd make a backup of the save file if I did something that required making new saves.

Thanks fot the tip! Now I know what to do if I want to try some of the many, MNAY mods that have been released already, XD. It never ocurred to me that you can just copy paste the folders

[chakkman]

Originally posted by Gotera:

The GOG versions of the Indiana Jones games are great, right?

Yep.

I actually sometimes wonder if what they do is all legal, because they slap community mods over the games and what not. Not sure if all that is communicated with the publishers.

[Gotera]

Originally posted by chakkman:

Originally posted by Gotera:

The GOG versions of the Indiana Jones games are great, right?

Yep.

I actually sometimes wonder if what they do is all legal, because they slap community mods over the games and what not. Not sure if all that is communicated with the publishers.

Well, still, I mean, there are games that have draconian DRM systems on release, like the horrendous secuROM in Crysis (I gotta see if I can exchange my original key for a digital release in some platform), or the install limit on Bioshock with a validation system (which I think doesn't even work anymore, I think my physical copy has become a coaster by now), I also have the physical version of Far Cry 2 and I don't remember what that one had but I couldn't play it from the disc anymore because the developer never bothered to fix it. The rights holders for these games are still getting their share from the GOG sales, so I guess it's a good thing that the games are updated and patched, even if it is with user created patches, to make them friendlier for modern audiences since the original developers won't bother. Not everybody goes to PC Gaming wiki or is tech savvy enough to look for the community patches and apply them themselves.

My guess is that they are actually legally adviced on what mods to apply and which ones not, since not always the mods they used are the best or more advanced/used. It's not like they are providing Dark Forces with The Force Engine in it, just a simple copy of DoxBox and that's it. Same goes for the original Tomb Raider. I believe DooM on GOG isn't running on GZdoom rather than dosbox, but I would have to check it. 3D Realms games don't run on any of the build engine source port either.

EDIT: Funny how my original post ranting about not having the patch (while legitimate as a complaint) has become a discussion about game preservation and platforms, XD

[gps]

Originally posted by chakkman:

I actually sometimes wonder if what they do is all legal, because they slap community mods over the games and what not. Not sure if all that is communicated with the publishers.

Then again some people claim they get DRM-free or unprotected versions from the publisher that actually contain files from illegal cracks.
But be that as it may, I really respect their intentions. Been playing games from the middle of the eighties, and I think games have a cutural value beyond mere short term commercial value. So keeping them working and accessibel for the old and new generations is important. And selling games DRM-free and without copy preotection is one less obstacle that could prevent you from playing games in the years to come.
Btw. how is this with STEAM and Windows 10 compatibility? My STEAM installation says it stopped working on Windows 8 on 2024.01.01. So is it still possible to play games incompatible to Windows 10 when STEAM today requires 10 to run?

[Gotera]

Originally posted by gps:

Originally posted by chakkman:

I actually sometimes wonder if what they do is all legal, because they slap community mods over the games and what not. Not sure if all that is communicated with the publishers.

Then again some people claim they get DRM-free or unprotected versions from the publisher that actually contain files from illegal cracks.
But be that as it may, I really respect their intentions. Been playing games from the middle of the eighties, and I think games have a cutural value beyond mere short term commercial value. So keeping them working and accessibel for the old and new generations is important. And selling games DRM-free and without copy preotection is one less obstacle that could prevent you from playing games in the years to come.
Btw. how is this with STEAM and Windows 10 compatibility? My STEAM installation says it stopped working on Windows 8 on 2024.01.01. So is it still possible to play games incompatible to Windows 10 when STEAM today requires 10 to run?

Yeah, that kind of contradictions drives me mad as well.

I guess it's OK to patch and make games DRM free once they've run their original expected official support timeframe. Otherwise you get stuff like the first The Crew game fiasco. (Oh crap, I hace a copy of The Crew 2 and I've barely had any time to properly play it, I hope I can at least devote some hours to it before Ubisoft kills it...)

Also, I don't know, man... I guess I'm too old and I have an issue having to deal with so many launchers. I just wanna hit on the shortcut on my desktop and play like in the old times. I don't even wanna touch GOG galaxy if I can avoid it. I only had to use it once to configure Star wars racer because the game itself doesn't allow you to change the graphical options from within itself and the original game launcher doesn't open from the desktop shortcut.

I do have the Epic copy of GTA V they gave away for free and I always end up playing with my original PS3 copy instead because on PC I have to open three launchers to get the freaking thing to even start (and these launchers usually need updating themselves too), the epic launcher one, there was another rockstar launcher thing, and another extra one if I recall correctly.

[Gotera]

Well, it's been over a day and there is still no update for the GOG version.
Usually it's not that weird for a patch to take 2 to 6 hours to upload to gog, but it has been over a day and there are still no news.

The uncertainty is the worst thing of this situation, not knowing when, if at all, the update will arrive, it's been over a day already.

I don't think it has anything to do with GOG galaxy, installers or trophies, since they already worked in the previous version and, aparently, as you people said even the steam version can be run with no steam running in the background at all, since you explained that players can copy paste the files to another folder in order to test mods and it seems to run without issues.

So yeah, no idea why this is taking so abnormally long.
I'm kind of afraid that this might be another situation resulting from mismanagement like the epic games infamous version which got uploaded to that platform by mistake. If this is some sort of mistake and it takes as long to fix as that did, boy oh boy are we GOG users in for some waiting....

[Thornok]

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