I can't be alone in thinking.....

[OptimusGrizly]

This game WAY over priced. I am only thinking this because SNOWRUNNER was $30 at launch as well and we get 1/3 of content if not then less in this game. 2 maps (I don't count Little Colorado as it is just a dinky small tutorial map) compared to 3 regions=12 maps in snowrunner. Not to mention only 20 vehicles compared to 60 I think it was. I can already see that they are starting to greedy (well I guess since Snowrunner). It should have been a red flag since they had the first year dlc already to be purchased BEFORE the game was even released. Man I hate when devs rush games and then release with lacking content then push out DLC of things that should have been in game from launch. We all know it is coming. They did it for snowrunner which was fine since it came with a lot of contect unlike this and I would support it if they released this game with as much content as they did in snow runner. Rant over.

[Pandorian]

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

This game WAY over priced. I am only thinking this because SNOWRUNNER was $30 at launch as well and we get 1/3 of content if not then less in this game. 2 maps (I don't count Little Colorado as it is just a dinky small tutorial map) compared to 3 regions=12 maps in snowrunner. Not to mention only 20 vehicles compared to 60 I think it was. I can already see that they are starting to greedy (well I guess since Snowrunner).

It's perfectly fine to be angry but don't twist facts to fit your narrative.

You don't want to count Colorado, despite it being nearly the same size as some base game Snowrunner maps, fine. "Expeditions only has 2 maps" Which are? Arizona and Carpathian Mountains? Well that's a weird naming convention for a MAP. If we are using that convention then Snowrunner only had 3 MAPs not 12. Oh right, somehow we ended up comparing Regions in Expedition (2) to total maps in Snowrunner after expansions(12) to make it look worse than it is, 8 vs 11 at launch.

Vehicles: "60 I think it was." Man it's really unfortunate there's nowhere we can look this information up.

3 Highway
4 Heavy Duty
11 Heavy
13 Off Road
9 Scout

3+4+11+13+9=40

8 maps(9) vs 11 maps
14 trucks vs 40 trucks

Go ahead and be angry about content but don't lie.

EDIT: 11 maps base game not 12. Rift in Taymyr was added later. Also ANK Civilian was added later that's why the Off Road total is 13 not 14.

EDIT 2: Can't believe I had to actually go and count trucks since you're the one complaining but there are only 14. The SE variants and the Cotco Canyon won't be included in a base game purchase of Expeditions.

EDIT 3: Little Colorado is roughly 1 square Kilometer. Drummond Island is 1.016 square Kilometers, Mountain River is 1.016 square Kilometers, Zimnegorsk is 1.016 square Kilometers.

EDIT 4: I'm not going to count it above but I'd like to point out that the devs actually included a 10th map in the game. If you go to the mods section they provided a base game proving grounds where you can test base modules and vehicles vs different types of terrain.

[Omence072]

Easily worth the money

[Crazy Croc]

I always thought at $30 Snowrunner was a steal.

[Slackerdude74]

When Snowrunner originally released years ago it didn’t have that many maps or vehicles like it does now, so it was very similar in content as Expeditions is now.

[kongol36]

wow did not take long for the Woke defenders to appear about how nothing to see hear... worse than cnn viewers

[OptimusGrizly]

Originally posted by Crazy Croc:

I always thought at $30 Snowrunner was a steal.

And it was especially with all the content it had at release

[OptimusGrizly]

Originally posted by ghost:

When Snowrunner originally released years ago it didn’t have that many maps or vehicles like it does now, so it was very similar in content as Expeditions is now.

Every thing I listed was for time of release and without dlc and still had loads more content.

[OptimusGrizly]

Originally posted by Pandorian:

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

This game WAY over priced. I am only thinking this because SNOWRUNNER was $30 at launch as well and we get 1/3 of content if not then less in this game. 2 maps (I don't count Little Colorado as it is just a dinky small tutorial map) compared to 3 regions=12 maps in snowrunner. Not to mention only 20 vehicles compared to 60 I think it was. I can already see that they are starting to greedy (well I guess since Snowrunner).

It's perfectly fine to be angry but don't twist facts to fit your narrative.

You don't want to count Colorado, despite it being nearly the same size as some base game Snowrunner maps, fine. "Expeditions only has 2 maps" Which are? Arizona and Carpathian Mountains? Well that's a weird naming convention for a MAP. If we are using that convention then Snowrunner only had 3 MAPs not 12. Oh right, somehow we ended up comparing Regions in Expedition (2) to total maps in Snowrunner after expansions(12) to make it look worse than it is, 8 vs 11 at launch.

Vehicles: "60 I think it was." Man it's really unfortunate there's nowhere we can look this information up.

3 Highway
4 Heavy Duty
11 Heavy
13 Off Road
9 Scout

3+4+11+13+9=40

8 maps(9) vs 11 maps
14 trucks vs 40 trucks

Go ahead and be angry about content but don't lie.

EDIT: 11 maps base game not 12. Rift in Taymyr was added later. Also ANK Civilian was added later that's why the Off Road total is 13 not 14.

EDIT 2: Can't believe I had to actually go and count trucks since you're the one complaining but there are only 14. The SE variants and the Cotco Canyon won't be included in a base game purchase of Expeditions.

EDIT 3: Little Colorado is roughly 1 square Kilometer. Drummond Island is 1.016 square Kilometers, Mountain River is 1.016 square Kilometers, Zimnegorsk is 1.016 square Kilometers.

EDIT 4: I'm not going to count it above but I'd like to point out that the devs actually included a 10th map in the game. If you go to the mods section they provided a base game proving grounds where you can test base modules and vehicles vs different types of terrain.

Well that's unfortunate for you that you don't have any way of looking things up. But for me I used this thing called GOOGLE to search many articles3to confirm. You mention adding maps. Everything I mention was BASE GAME. And your count of vehicles may be off. I do believe there where more than 3 highway vehicles at launch. And again I am referring to base game since when I first bought on epic I did not buy year one dlc or pre order.

[Pandorian]

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

Well that's unfortunate for you that you don't have any way of looking things up. But for me I used this thing called GOOGLE to search many articles3to confirm. You mention adding maps. Everything I mention was BASE GAME. And your count of vehicles may be off. I do believe there where more than 3 highway vehicles at launch. And again I am referring to base game since when I first bought on epic I did not buy year one dlc or pre order.

Yawn.
https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/SnowRunner/Vehicles

5 Total Highway, 2 are DLC
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https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/Rift

Rift is the fourth map located in Taymyr region and a latest included in SnowRunner. The map is connected to the Quarry map. It was added to the game in The Rift Update.

https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/Search_%26_Recover?so=search

Free Content:
New Taymyr map: Rift;

[Rragar]

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

This game WAY over priced. I am only thinking this because SNOWRUNNER was $30 at launch as well and we get 1/3 of content if not then less in this game. 2 maps (I don't count Little Colorado as it is just a dinky small tutorial map) compared to 3 regions=12 maps in snowrunner. Not to mention only 20 vehicles compared to 60 I think it was. I can already see that they are starting to greedy (well I guess since Snowrunner). It should have been a red flag since they had the first year dlc already to be purchased BEFORE the game was even released. Man I hate when devs rush games and then release with lacking content then push out DLC of things that should have been in game from launch. We all know it is coming. They did it for snowrunner which was fine since it came with a lot of contect unlike this and I would support it if they released this game with as much content as they did in snow runner. Rant over.

You call it overpriced when the price including the 1 year season pass is lower than for the base editions of most newly released AA titles (that is, editions without DLC).

And you're gonna have to explain your greed speech cause if continuous development is an issue to you, then I guess newspapers and magazines are evil by your definition because they also feature long development cycles with regular releases. It has nothing to do with your "lacking content" BS (which you'd know if you'd played it proper).

I also don't get why you complain about there being "only 2 maps" as if you hadn't played it to see that you are incorrect. It's 2 regions with like 6 maps in each.

[OptimusGrizly]

Originally posted by Pandorian:

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

Well that's unfortunate for you that you don't have any way of looking things up. But for me I used this thing called GOOGLE to search many articles3to confirm. You mention adding maps. Everything I mention was BASE GAME. And your count of vehicles may be off. I do believe there where more than 3 highway vehicles at launch. And again I am referring to base game since when I first bought on epic I did not buy year one dlc or pre order.

Yawn.
https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/SnowRunner/Vehicles

5 Total Highway, 2 are DLC
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https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/Rift

Rift is the fourth map located in Taymyr region and a latest included in SnowRunner. The map is connected to the Quarry map. It was added to the game in The Rift Update.

https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/Search_%26_Recover?so=search

Free Content:
New Taymyr map: Rift;

Again you keep mentioning dlc. Base game had 3 regions which equaled 12 maps so your point is Invalid. As for the vehicles you are right on that. Just looked again and must of referenced an article I ment to look past. So you can keep yawning at your invalid respons to as many maps/ zones it was released with. since as I mentioned in my original post that it was not any dlc and was base game. expeditions has about 1/3 of content at launch than snow runner and is not worth the price compared to snowrunner.

[Gage]

OP did you account for inflation?

[Wendell T Stamps]

If you're broke then wait for sales. No one forces anyone to buy games day one, and you can always look to reviews and forum posts for detailed info about content.

[Fortuna]

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

Originally posted by Pandorian:

Yawn.
https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/SnowRunner/Vehicles

5 Total Highway, 2 are DLC
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https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/Rift



https://spintires.fandom.com/wiki/Search_%26_Recover?so=search

Again you keep mentioning dlc. Base game had 3 regions which equaled 12 maps so your point is Invalid. As for the vehicles you are right on that. Just looked again and must of referenced an article I ment to look past. So you can keep yawning at your invalid respons to as many maps/ zones it was released with. since as I mentioned in my original post that it was not any dlc and was base game. expeditions has about 1/3 of content at launch than snow runner and is not worth the price compared to snowrunner.

The price if fine, got it with the year one DLC.
Dont make it a big issue when it isn't, go enjoy the game.

[carmamir]

Originally posted by Fortuna:

Originally posted by OptimusGrizly:

Again you keep mentioning dlc. Base game had 3 regions which equaled 12 maps so your point is Invalid. As for the vehicles you are right on that. Just looked again and must of referenced an article I ment to look past. So you can keep yawning at your invalid respons to as many maps/ zones it was released with. since as I mentioned in my original post that it was not any dlc and was base game. expeditions has about 1/3 of content at launch than snow runner and is not worth the price compared to snowrunner.

The price if fine, got it with the year one DLC.
Dont make it a big issue when it isn't, go enjoy the game.

He has every right to voice his concerns. His right to do it, and if you have nothing else to add, then above, then you should enjoy the game and stay quiet.

This is why we have freedom of speech.