So did Anya actually got r... or is it something that the community decided happened?

[💗Blaaashyyy💗]

Maybe I didn't paid attention, or maybe it's because I don't like to imagine stuff and instead I wait for people to tell it straight, so that I'm sure they mean what I think they mean, but it seemed to me like the situation might be, that she might jut spent a night with Jim, got pregnant but he didn't wanted her, and that's why she was upset instead of straight up r situation (and he might not have known about the child either and she was afraid to tell him). But again, I might not have been paying attention at the right time. At which moment it's made clear, that this is what happened?

[1stReaper]

jesus.... its backstory of a character... its game lore... people need to deal with the fact some games have dark gritty backstories........

look at witcher 3 for example...
(its been a while since i played the game so im not 100% sure if ill be correct or not,,, so correct me if im wrong...but...)

red baron kill/killed his child and it came back as a botchling,,,
be beat his wife when he got drunk, she always knew how to stick the knife in the deepest,, but he still loved her.

sometimes games just have lore that might be a bit much,
but thats there for the story telling aspect, and to add more feeling to the characters, and adds more hate/love for a certain character.

rpg's are rpg's for a reason...
if actually done right... it are meant to make you feel fully immersed in the game/story
you know a good story is good when at the end of it you feel that joy,,, followed by that empty void because you know thats it, theres no more,

[💗Blaaashyyy💗]

Bro... I'm just asking where was it clarified cuz I missed that moment lol.

[LYCΔN]

I think it's implied when Anya asked Curly why the bedrooms didn't have locks on them. (That's what I took away from it, anyway)

[💗Blaaashyyy💗]

Originally posted by LYCΔN:

I think it's implied when Anya asked Curly why the bedrooms didn't have locks on them. (That's what I took away from it, anyway)

Right, that's the big implication, but at the same time, that's a damn valid question on it's onw lol. Stuff that doesn't need to necesarilly be locked is but not bedrooms. Idk man, she said it so casually too... what she says, and then Curly reactions lead me to believe that what happened is not as horrid as what the community thinks did. Maybe it's supposed to ambiguous on purpose. The way Jim talked to her doesn't make much sense too.

I guess I'll go with "both versions are plausible" with me leaning towards the "They slept together one night, she got pregnant, he didn't cared for her (or it was just a one night stand with nothing else connecting them) and now she's afraid to tell him they are going to have a child together". I think that if you'd look at the story from that perspective, it will fit just as well as the r implication.

[thunda]

Its heavily implied through several events that just keep adding up. Anya comments about the open dorm sleeping situation but that the med bay has a locked doorr, then after the crash her sleeping area is untouched implying she's sleeping in the med bay after that night she got assaulted. Why would she do that if nobody harassed her in her sleep?

The part about "being quiet" near the end, to avoid the rape horse. Obvious metaphor to Jimmy telling Anya to be quiet while he raped her.

The "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY" flashes wouldnt be so in your face if Jimmy had simply abandoned her after their consensual sex led to a pregnancy. It was about more than responsibility of the baby, it was about his actions after the crash

Anya didnt want to give the psych eval to Jimmy.

Anya act weird around Jimmy after the crash. And of course Anya kills herself in the end. She was going to have a baby in such a situation that was happening on the ship.

There are other events too but the totality of the circumstances add up to rape, there's no other explanation

[CrabNicholson]

Originally posted by Blash:

Maybe I didn't paid attention, or maybe it's because I don't like to imagine stuff and instead I wait for people to tell it straight, so that I'm sure they mean what I think they mean, but it seemed to me like the situation might be, that she might jut spent a night with Jim, got pregnant but he didn't wanted her, and that's why she was upset instead of straight up r situation (and he might not have known about the child either and she was afraid to tell him). But again, I might not have been paying attention at the right time. At which moment it's made clear, that this is what happened?

It's just a fan theory, and one that requires the character assassination of every other character to be plausible, and which ignores the main theme of the game of taking responsibility.

[Jakechi]

Uh, spoiler alert.

[Orion | SES Martyr Of Midnight]

Originally posted by Jakechi:

Uh, spoiler alert.

Why're you here...?

[💗Blaaashyyy💗]

Originally posted by Jakechi:

Uh, spoiler alert.

why are you entering a forum of a game you haven't finished lol?

[Dave Johnson]

Originally posted by 1stReaper:

jesus.... its backstory of a character... its game lore... people need to deal with the fact some games have dark gritty backstories........

look at witcher 3 for example...
(its been a while since i played the game so im not 100% sure if ill be correct or not,,, so correct me if im wrong...but...)

red baron kill/killed his child and it came back as a botchling,,,
be beat his wife when he got drunk, she always knew how to stick the knife in the deepest,, but he still loved her.

sometimes games just have lore that might be a bit much,
but thats there for the story telling aspect, and to add more feeling to the characters, and adds more hate/love for a certain character.

rpg's are rpg's for a reason...
if actually done right... it are meant to make you feel fully immersed in the game/story
you know a good story is good when at the end of it you feel that joy,,, followed by that empty void because you know thats it, theres no more,

Bro, get over yourself.
Dude asked a legitimate question about the plot of the game on the game's own forum.

[💗Blaaashyyy💗]

Originally posted by thunda:

Its heavily implied through several events that just keep adding up. Anya comments about the open dorm sleeping situation but that the med bay has a locked doorr, then after the crash her sleeping area is untouched implying she's sleeping in the med bay after that night she got assaulted. Why would she do that if nobody harassed her in her sleep?

The part about "being quiet" near the end, to avoid the rape horse. Obvious metaphor to Jimmy telling Anya to be quiet while he raped her.

The "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY" flashes wouldnt be so in your face if Jimmy had simply abandoned her after their consensual sex led to a pregnancy. It was about more than responsibility of the baby, it was about his actions after the crash

Anya didnt want to give the psych eval to Jimmy.

Anya act weird around Jimmy after the crash. And of course Anya kills herself in the end. She was going to have a baby in such a situation that was happening on the ship.

There are other events too but the totality of the circumstances add up to rape, there's no other explanation

You make good points but I still ain't feeling it and won't call it the truth really.

The open dorms are legitimate question/concern regardless of if anything happened or not, but it does point into the implication yes. So that's a +1 for r theory.

I don't remember the part about her sleeping in the med bay, but if you're right that's even +2 for the r theory. Then again she might just wanted to avoid Jim or a situation in which they would get close together again.

The argument about the horse part makes sense but how is it a r horese? It looks more like he's being haunted by his weird fanthasies, fetishes that lead him astray, than anything, doesn't seem like it's in anyway related to Anya really.
Edit: According to the wiki, he made up the horse thing to tease her "When she attempts to take his psych evaluation, he refuses to comply, giving sarcastic and crudely sexual answers to her questions." now the entire horse section DOES make sense!

Her not wanting to give him psych evaul can work both ways, she clearly wanted to avoid him, but it works in both scenarios, because he r'd her, or because she was scared to tell him she's pregnant after a one night stand.
Edit: So she doesn't want to continue with Jim's psych evaul cuz he teases her with making stuff up about horses and what not.

The "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY" being aggresively in his face seems to be about the responsibility for the crash and what happened to Curly, hence why he puts him in the crio pod at the end, taking the responsibility. For this, for everything that happened to everyone in the crew because of his actions, the crew that is all dead but Curly, the only one he can still save, the only one he can still"fix things" with.

When Anya locked herself in the med bay, I thought she might want to do something to Curly, but that was claerly not the case. She must have locked herself there because of Jimmy. By that point it only makes sense if the r scenario is the correct one. And ofc her killing herself.

That and what Swansea told him after killing Daisuke, how Anya told him stuff and obviously it's not about his horse fetish.

Also, on reddit post in response to a question of "Why Jimmy crashed the ship" someone wrote:
It’s implied by Jimmy’s conversation with Curly during the psyche evaluation that Jimmy has had a “struggle of a life” back on Earth. He expresses that he enjoys being co-pilot of the Tulpar because “we’re in control here.” When Curly delivers the news that the company is going out of business, Jimmy takes it personally and feels severely hard done by, not just by pony express but also by Curly himself. The sudden loss of control, coupled with the revelation that Anya is pregnant and the realisation his abuse will be revealed when the delivery is complete tips Jimmy over the edge. In a moment of selfish desperation, Jimmy intentionally causes the crash because he would rather die than face the consequences of or take responsibility for his own actions. He likely also wanted to ruin Curly’s potential legacy of being known as a good captain and hurt the rest of the crew out of pure spite and hatred. The line at the start “I hope this hurts” is most likely a thought from Jimmy’s mind.

After all that it does look like what I would call a "silernt r'pe" situation. That he snuck up to the dorms one night and just started getting on whith her, not brutally, she didn't gave him consent but also kept quiet etc. So he thought it was fine but it wasn't. That's why he interact with her normally, but she acts weird.

So I guess that's concludes it.

Damn, wish more games would made you think about stuff this way. There used to be games like this in the past, more or less, ambiguaous, making you think, weight the facts, come to your own conclusions... giving you stuff to think about and discuss later with others. Nowadays at least there's this game I guess.

[xXFeralPyr0pteraXx]

It was also implied that Jimmy drugged Anya, implied by his readiness to drug Swansea just to get what he wants (into the utility room, so he can pressure Daisuke into crawling through a collapsed vent).

And in the scene with him walking in on Anya and Swansea talking in the cockpit, she was crying and Swansea mentions himself needing to have self restraint in that moment (because he wants to beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of Jimmy or smth). So it's likely that Anya told Swansea about what Jimmy did to her

[Iamus]

Was there a single thing.

Let's just say there is proof of that something sexual happenin due to pregnancy.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing to imply it was consensual.

There was a lot done through lots of visual story telling and dialog to imply that it was unwanted.

There is no footage or audio of the event so I guess there isn't any proof.

[Kaczor24]

Originally posted by thunda:

Its heavily implied through several events that just keep adding up. Anya comments about the open dorm sleeping situation but that the med bay has a locked doorr, then after the crash her sleeping area is untouched implying she's sleeping in the med bay after that night she got assaulted. Why would she do that if nobody harassed her in her sleep?

The part about "being quiet" near the end, to avoid the rape horse. Obvious metaphor to Jimmy telling Anya to be quiet while he raped her.

The "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY" flashes wouldnt be so in your face if Jimmy had simply abandoned her after their consensual sex led to a pregnancy. It was about more than responsibility of the baby, it was about his actions after the crash

Anya didnt want to give the psych eval to Jimmy.

Anya act weird around Jimmy after the crash. And of course Anya kills herself in the end. She was going to have a baby in such a situation that was happening on the ship.

There are other events too but the totality of the circumstances add up to rape, there's no other explanation

your forgetting the part where jimmy is the only person who knows how to make a spiked cocktail
also hinting that he drugged Anya

[CrabNicholson]

Originally posted by Kaczor24:

your forgetting the part where jimmy is the only person who knows how to make a spiked cocktail
also hinting that he drugged Anya

It's not a roofie, it's literally rubbing alcohol that he put into Swansea's drink. Nobody would ever try to drug a rape victim with rubbing alcohol because the effects are extremely conspicuous: vomitting, extreme sickness, and possible organ damage. It's the least stealthy way possible to drug someone. The only reason why it worked on Swansea was because Swansea was already drunk and Jimmy didn't care if Swansea knew he got drugged, he was just trying to get past him to get to Anya.