When to push challenges?

[Lambi]

There's usually a tip for when to clear them. Like Core computing for instanc has "First 4 bars maxed on compute". But do they mean that this will allow you to clear enough to get the first reward. Or to clear the whole thing? And if it's only to clear the first reward. Is there any good indicator for when you are ready to clear the second?

[Dwane Dibbley]

Suggestion is for first one. Second is mostly guessing that you boosted required stats enough. Base carry is usualy after unlocking new base, synth purity after you start new synth tier.
You can alwas manualy save and try challange how far you get.

[Lambi]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Suggestion is for first one. Second is mostly guessing that you boosted required stats enough. Base carry is usualy after unlocking new base, synth purity after you start new synth tier.
You can alwas manualy save and try challange how far you get.

I mean sure, but it's not like the challenges themselves take 10 minutes. They can go up to hours. So I'd rather not waste my time with that just to test and see that I can't and then it was all for nothing. That's why I asked. But your tip about Base and Synth were good. I'm really just looking for anything and everything to boost my power. I've been perpetually pretty stuck where I'm at right now for like three days. And I'm not even far into the game.

[Dwane Dibbley]

You can see how far you go pretty fast. Like if you start synth challange that require clearing sector 33 and you get only to like 28 before you have to stop on boss and start crafting hard, its not worth it. If you can get to 31, its doable. Again, just use manual save and if it doesnt work you can load it back even after 2 hours and you dont miss anything as you will get 2 hours of offline progress.

Using right weapons/shield might be also tricky, i think most of challanges that dont drop salvage and you cant upgrade were best with gatling lasers and continuos shield, but you may again use manual save and try various builds thru "free" retroships.

[Sylv]

To expand on what Dwane said, The intended time to run the challenges is when you can do them in like an hour or two at most (with the exception of compute 8 and 9 taking grinding no matter what). And what he said is spot on about just see how far you get quickly.

If you are desperate people are happy to answer the question directly in the discord based on their experience.

Originally posted by Lambi:

I mean sure, but it's not like the challenges themselves take 10 minutes. They can go up to hours. So I'd rather not waste my time with that just to test and see that I can't and then it was all for nothing. That's why I asked. But your tip about Base and Synth were good. I'm really just looking for anything and everything to boost my power. I've been perpetually pretty stuck where I'm at right now for like three days. And I'm not even far into the game.

what sector are you on? I know people have missed the fact that you need to build components in base one to get the boost (but I suspect your past that if have challenges). Also there is a unfortunately large wall around sector 20 if that's where you're at. Have to grind up your synth and research a bit.

[doralon]

Sylv - there are players that don't have access to discord (your channel is blocked for guests).
Locking this information behind discord verification process isn't constructive.

[Lambi]

Originally posted by Sylv:

To expand on what Dwane said, The intended time to run the challenges is when you can do them in like an hour or two at most (with the exception of compute 8 and 9 taking grinding no matter what). And what he said is spot on about just see how far you get quickly.

If you are desperate people are happy to answer the question directly in the discord based on their experience.

Originally posted by Lambi:

I mean sure, but it's not like the challenges themselves take 10 minutes. They can go up to hours. So I'd rather not waste my time with that just to test and see that I can't and then it was all for nothing. That's why I asked. But your tip about Base and Synth were good. I'm really just looking for anything and everything to boost my power. I've been perpetually pretty stuck where I'm at right now for like three days. And I'm not even far into the game.

what sector are you on? I know people have missed the fact that you need to build components in base one to get the boost (but I suspect your past that if have challenges). Also there is a unfortunately large wall around sector 20 if that's where you're at. Have to grind up your synth and research a bit.

Yeah you assumed right, around Sector 20. Was stuck there for like 3-4 days. An absolute slogfest. But I FINALLY pushed just past that, enough to unlock Warp to get some boosts from there at least.

[Sylv]

Originally posted by doralon:

Sylv - there are players that don't have access to discord (your channel is blocked for guests).
Locking this information behind discord verification process isn't constructive.

There isn't a discrete list of when to do anything, the discord part is being able to ask people And get responses about specifics, If more people were perusing this forum then you could ask it here and get quick responses, but it's just very light activity compared to the discord.

Also I don't even know what a discord guest is, Is that like you don't have an account setup But you can still actually access some stuff on discord?

I could ask people that have written various snippets or guides on things to Post it here on the forums or into team guides too, but its up to them really.

[Huillam]

Base Carry is covered in Myros' guide here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010926036
Power Hungry is straightforward: Is your maximum void power enough to tank few hits from the boss you're supposed to defeat?
Synth Purity should be doable when you're done with a synth tier (although it may take a few hours to fully build modules and then stockpile a fair bit of every material).
Core Computing is a lot trickier. 1.25 Cap, 4 Cap, 1.25 Cap+, 4 Cap+ and so on are probably good milestones.

[doralon]

Originally posted by Sylv:

Also I don't even know what a discord guest is, Is that like you don't have an account setup But you can still actually access some stuff on discord?

I could ask people that have written various snippets or guides on things to Post it here on the forums or into team guides too, but its up to them really.

I can view discord discussions without an account on channels that specifically allow this type of access.
Last time I checked the game discord required an account which I can't get at this point in time (and probably for the foreseeable future).

Most of the times reading what other people asked is helpful enough even if I can't ask myself so "read access" will solve this part of the problem.

Regarding posting the guides here, I'm sure it'll help a lot more players other than me.
Steam guides section is fairly used in most games I'm familiar with.

Originally posted by Huillam:

Base Carry is covered in Myros' guide here:

Thank you.
Thankfully it was posted in the wiki as well so I was able to read it and enjoy the knowledge :)

Originally posted by Huillam:

Power Hungry is straightforward: Is your maximum void power enough to tank few hits from the boss you're supposed to defeat?

Awesome tip - thank you very much!

Originally posted by Huillam:

Synth Purity should be doable when you're done with a synth tier (although it may take a few hours to fully build modules and then stockpile a fair bit of every material).

Are you referring to "the same tier"?
As in if you completed T2 than you can do challenge 2?

Originally posted by Huillam:

Core Computing is a lot trickier. 1.25 Cap, 4 Cap, 1.25 Cap+, 4 Cap+ and so on are probably good milestones.

Currently, using the modules and void devices I'm capping the 1.1 cap+cap+.
Which computer level challenge do you think I should be able to complete relatively quickly with this?


P.S.
What is your recommended weapon setup for each of those challenges?

[Sylv]

hmmm, I can't find anywhere in the discord settings that would be restricting guest accounts, nor a place to set them as allowed etc. It might be that the server got big enough to be a "community" server and there was some moderation/safety requirements for that? I am not sure though.

I will see about getting guides posted on steam more.

[Huillam]

Originally posted by doralon:

Are you referring to "the same tier"?
As in if you completed T2 than you can do challenge 2?

First challenge suggests having maxxed T2 modules first. Having infinite T3 (blue) materials was enough for the second. I intend to try the third one soon.
So one per tier starting from T2.

Originally posted by doralon:

Currently, using the modules and void devices I'm capping the 1.1 cap+cap+.
Which computer level challenge do you think I should be able to complete relatively quickly with this?

You're definitly ahead of me here but I imagine that the third one should be easy and the fourth may be worth a try.

Originally posted by doralon:

P.S.
What is your recommended weapon setup for each of those challenges?

Core Computing: Your usual setup. The most common (for lasers) being X Beams/2 Laser Cannons. Depending of the amount of salvage you can gather T1 weapons may be better than T2.

Synth Purity & Base Carry:
No salvage means no active buffs and no support node. I usually start with 1 Beam/X Gatling and would switch to full gatling/kinetic for the final push. And without Shield Boost, Continuouss Generator may offer you few seconds of survivability over the Bulk Generator.


Power Hungry:
With 4 or more weapon slots, full gatling set up to support/fire rate (as damage nodes don't work in that challenge). With only 3 slots 1 gatling, 2 laser cannons I imagine.
The first two shields have the exact same behaviour in that challenge.
T1 weapons obviously: that won't affect their damage but it will be easier to grab the nodes.
Despite no beam laser, 100% regen bosses shouldn't be an issue. If you have enough damage to finish the challenge, you should have more than enough damage to one shot those few bosses along the way.

[doralon]

Originally posted by Sylv:

hmmm, I can't find anywhere in the discord settings that would be restricting guest accounts, nor a place to set them as allowed etc. It might be that the server got big enough to be a "community" server and there was some moderation/safety requirements for that? I am not sure though.

I will see about getting guides posted on steam more.

thank you very much for trying - it's greatly appreciated.

@Huillam thank you very much for the detailed explanation.
it's very helpful and informative.

[Hundmetall]

From the Discord resources

Challenges:
Core computing:
1x beam laser + rest laser cannons. Laser cannons on supportive routing + boosts + shield bonus, beam laser on mass focuser and damage.
Core 1: immediately
Core 2-3: Cruiser with lvl 95 beam laser, 2x lvl 80 laser cannon support
Core 4-5: Heavy cruiser with lvl 110 beam laser, 3x laser cannon support (may need improved tracking)
Core 6: Destroyer with lvl 110 beam laser, 5x laser cannon support
Core 7-8: can be done with compute crew (?)
Core 9: can be done with 2nd mastery compute crew (?)

Synth challenge:
Max gatlings, later disruption charges.
Max damage/shield modules as far as reasonable, then imbued alloy-> imbued circuitry -> pristine sensors if available.
More synth damage/shield upgrades help.
Synth 1: max T2
Synth 2: max T3
Synth 3: fourth synth slot
Synth 4: 2E10 synth speed (without synth util) (2E11 with synth util)
Synth 5: synth crew mastery (?)

Power Hungry:
Remember you can spend salvage! Lvl 1 or 2 Gatlings -> Disruption. A max gatling setup is about 10x max VP in damage, then compare damage to sector enemies. Utilize void energy boost to sustain through boss damage.
Power 1: reactor utility unlocked
Power 2: warp VP max MK2 maxed, aim for e12 max VP
Power 3: warp VP max MK3 maxed, aim for e15 max VP
Power 4: warp VP max MK4 maxed, aim for e22 max VP
Power 5: reactor crew mastery (?)

[doralon]

Originally posted by Hundmetall:

From the Discord resources

This is awesome, thank you very much!
Personally I'm having hard time completing some of those challenges with the recommended loadout but maybe it is because I used the wrong shield setup :(

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by doralon:

Originally posted by Hundmetall:

From the Discord resources

This is awesome, thank you very much!
Personally I'm having hard time completing some of those challenges with the recommended loadout but maybe it is because I used the wrong shield setup :(

Continuos shield is best in challanges with no salvage. And gatling lasers (only synth 5 needed bombs cuz there are snipers in last zones). Anyway, you can retrofit during challange.

And "recomended" crew masteries are imho trap. Warp mastery is MUCH better than synth or reactor masteries as it lets you simply get warp upgrades in both fields to do challange, and computing challanges arnt even that good, you max out computing without last lvls.