The Dark Cultist

[williamwilting]

I have the impression that the abilities of the Dark Cultist don't work properly as they should. At the moment I'm writing this, I'm having a game in which I'm the Dark Cultist. The card says I'm receiving a gift by rolling a die if I kill an enemy or other character. It works, as long as I kill an enemy on an adventure card. But if I defeat the Sentinel, this ability won't take effect in this game. The Sentinel is an enemy, right? So why doesn't happen what's supposed to happen?

[williamwilting]

Sorry, I forgot to add '... and if I force that character to lose a life...' and to say 'defeat' a character instead of 'kill'. But the issue about the Sentinel is still there, according to me.

[williamwilting]

The same happens with the Werewolf on the Werewolf's Den space. Nothing on the Dark Cultist card says that the ability doesn't work on spaces. What is going on here?!

[MightyWeasel]

Those encounters are not defined as Enemies. The Werewolf card is defined as an Event. Which also means if you have the runesword/fatestealer weapons, they will not give bonus life/fate upon defeat. Hope this helps.

MightyWeasel

[ToothlessNightFury]

Anything that attacks a character other than an Enemy or another character, is considered to be a creature. Therefore, the Sentinel is a creature not an Enemy, the same as the Werewolf in the Inner Region.

[Xerxes Aragon]

These bonuses - Dark Cultist, Runesword, Fate Stealer, etc. - are only received when fighting card-based things. None of them provide their bonuses when used on something which "lives on the board" - Sentinel, Werewolf Den, Pit Fiends, etc.

[ososober]

have to look at keyword, if something has keyword enemy then it is an enemy, and ive only seen keywords on cards, never on anything that is board/event related

[JHarlequin]

Multiple ways to answer it but the two simplest are if it isn't a card, and you don't actually kill the sentinel, only defeat him.

Not being a card is what it means multiple spaces where you are killing the whatever and yet any "on kill" abilities will not occur. Examples are of course sentinel and werewolf, but also the drunk farmer and surprisingly the creatures in the cave card. While the cave is a card, the creatures inside are not cards themselves so you don't get a "kill" for them should you encounter them.

The other rule is more reasonable, you never kill the sentinel, only best him and move on.

[Artaterxes]

Enemy = Card
Creature = Anything you fight except characters (including Enemies)

[Vorpeseda]

I think it's the same rules for taking trophies as well. You only get rewards from enemies if the enemy itself was drawn as a card. Anything caused by the board or a place card can't be taken as a trophy.

[Puppy Cat Underfoot]

Originally posted by Artaterxes:

Creature = Anything you fight except characters (including Enemies)

Based on playing Digital Edition as the Ogre Chieftan last night, and encounters with Craft enemy cards, I think the Creature definition is a little loose. Sometimes I was given the Dominate option on cards I wasn't thinking I would, and on my first enemy of the game where I expected to get the option, I did not.

[Astra]

Originally posted by Evil Puppy Cat:

Originally posted by Artaterxes:

Creature = Anything you fight except characters (including Enemies)

Based on playing Digital Edition as the Ogre Chieftan last night, and encounters with Craft enemy cards, I think the Creature definition is a little loose. Sometimes I was given the Dominate option on cards I wasn't thinking I would, and on my first enemy of the game where I expected to get the option, I did not.

If I remember correct there are Craft based Monsters and Ogre Chieftan is allowed to dominate killed "Monsters". Dont get "Enemy", "Creature" and "Monster"(wich is an enemy type like i.e. Dragon, Animal or Ghost) confused.

[JustMaeBee]

Originally posted by Evil Puppy Cat:

Originally posted by Artaterxes:

Creature = Anything you fight except characters (including Enemies)

Based on playing Digital Edition as the Ogre Chieftan last night, and encounters with Craft enemy cards, I think the Creature definition is a little loose. Sometimes I was given the Dominate option on cards I wasn't thinking I would, and on my first enemy of the game where I expected to get the option, I did not.

Ogre Chieftan dominates Monsters. There are a lot of non-monster enemies such as animals, dragons, and constructs.

[Puppy Cat Underfoot]

I dominated a Bandit last night. So, another bug?

[Astra]

Originally posted by Evil Puppy Cat:

I dominated a Bandit last night. So, another bug?

nope check the card it's type says "Enemy-Monster"