The Harbinger Expansion Big Mistake!

[exmanos]

Hello! I play many years in the board version of talisman. I have been playing digital version for some time with my friends! I am very happy with your work and I support you with all my heart but I think I found a big mistake in digital version!
It looks like the Harbinger Deck is treated as the adventure cards! I will now describe an example (I put a movie with the described example):
I draw a adventure card which is an Event "Flame Rift" on which it is written: "(...) Burn all Adventure cards in this space and the top 3 cards of the Adventure deck (...)". There is a Harbinger in the same region so the cards from his deck are burned and THIS IS A MISTAKE!!!.
I explain:
In the original rules of the Talisman The Harbinger Expansion is written: "Whenever a character in the same Region as the Harbinger is instructed by a BOARD SPACE to draw cards, he must draw Harbinger cards instead"!!! In this case, it is not the board space instructs to draw three adventure cards! An adventure card instructs about it!!! In the original rules of the Talisman The Harbinger Expansion is also written: "Harbinger cards do not count as Adventure cards while being drawn (...)" and the Event "Flame Rift" says "(...) the top 3 cards of the Adventure deck (...)"!!!
In conclusion:
1.I quote official rules: "Harbinger cards do not count as Adventure cards while being drawn and cannot be affected by the Orb of Knowledge, the Prophetess’ ability, or similar effects. Once a Harbinger card has been placed faceup on a space, it is treated as an Adventure card"
So if some Cards mentions about adventure cards even if there is Harbinger, cards from Harbinger deck are not taken into account (unless they are reversed on the board) because they are not adventure cards when they are drawn!!!
2.I quote official rules: "Whenever a character in the same Region as the Harbinger is instructed by a board space to draw cards, he must draw Harbinger cards instead."
So if anything in the same Region as the Harbinger except board space instructs about adventure cards, Harbinger deck are not taken into account!!!
I gave you one example but there are dozens of them!!! Maybe I'm wrong but if not, this is the biggest mistake that exists in the game at this point unless you interpret
the content of the rules differently than I do. In that case, please explain.
(Talisman The Harbinger Expansion rules: https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/c8/87/c8871bfd-0024-4703-8222-22b0bf931f7f/tm15_harbinger_rules_engcompressed.pdf )
(movie with the described example: https://www.dropbox.com/s/91hnwo1flaafqzl/exemple.mp4?dl=0 )

[Gilga ™ |Yonaguni|]

All already discussed to death in the beta time, and in endless other topics, i suggest you use the search engine, or join the beta group , and try to be constructive for further updates.

[sjgf]

exmanos, you are correct. Certain decks are not Adventure Decks and certain cards are not Adventure cards until such cards are placed on the board. Unfortunately the game is not following the rules on this and as a result there are problems such as the problems that you have described in your initial post above.

To be more specific the three Dragon Decks, the Nether Realm Deck, and the Harbinger Deck are not Adventure Decks and the game should not be treating these decks as Adventure Decks, and cards that are in these Decks are not Adventure Cards and such cards should not be treated as Adventure Cards until such cards have been placed on the board.

[exmanos]

Yes, I know about other decks to. Creators are doing something about it?

[sjgf]

Цитата допису exmanos:

Yes, I know about other decks to. Creators are doing something about it?

I don't know.

[☼Desendos☼]

One of those things where we've gone deep in a wrong direction. So it ain't easy to fix. When we get spare time we will be taking a look.

There was an argument for it due to the difference in wording between older rule's which are/arn't adventure decks. We assumed due to the difference in the wording the intention was for it to be an adventure deck just that the card's would not be adventure cards whilst being drawn so they couldn't be filtered with effects that target adventure cards. Anyway, if your bored enough to dig more information in the beta thread.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/talismanbeta/discussions/0/2381701715728236769/

[Don Julio]

Цитата допису sjgf:

exmanos, you are correct. Certain decks are not Adventure Decks and certain cards are not Adventure cards until such cards are placed on the board. Unfortunately the game is not following the rules on this and as a result there are problems such as the problems that you have described in your initial post above.

To be more specific the three Dragon Decks, the Nether Realm Deck, and the Harbinger Deck are not Adventure Decks and the game should not be treating these decks as Adventure Decks, and cards that are in these Decks are not Adventure Cards and such cards should not be treated as Adventure Cards until such cards have been placed on the board.

This.
This is also one of the reasons, I'm not playing anymore (waiting for patch, reading the forum...).