Assassin overpowered

[Nectua]

I get that he deserves the ability to negate the rolls of other Characters but when he encounters a creature because of a tile or a card they should get a D6 as they are attacking him. It’s hard to picture a dragon so shocked at being stabbed with a knife that they don’t get the chance to hit back....

[russian_martian]

Assassin as every character has his strong and weak sides - he can not loot other characters, and when he is attacked by other character - he is on weak side because he have no bonuses for that case. And assassinate can not be used during battle for Crown - it is big disadvantage too. Game rules are cheked with decades. And one more time - this is board game with dices and cards - it can not be "balanced".
and by the way - even dragons can be caught asleep.

[Funster]

I think the idea behind assassinating a dragon is that he's trained in sneaking and presumably knows the best organ/weak point to attack when taking that first strike. I mean yeah it's abstracted but it's okay. It's not like we're dealing with beasty D&D dragons here.

[Niebe]

Assassin has a huge advantage against strength creatures but i don't think he is overpowered.

[Nectua]

Kaworu, if he had an advantage when attacked too that would be REALLY overpowered. Its not that much of a disadvantage at the crown, by the time he gets there he has such high strength anyway. Im aware it’s a board game...board games have to be balanced too. I checked his card in the box on my shelf to see how it was worded at last publication.
Its still only a few inches of steel. I think on the turn the cards are revealed they should get to roll. As it is, as soon as he hits str 3 he beats most monsters without a challenge.

[russian_martian]

if you dont like some official rules - make a mod with home rules and have fun with it, but pls dont try to remake official rules of the game many of us waited for so long.

[dogfacedboyuk1]

This is where the small amount of strategy within the game of Talisman comes into play...if people deem the assassin to be a threat in game, they all team up against him....Hes been in the game from the start, so obviously playtesters, designers and players alike have had no problems in all of Talismans 30 years....

[dogfacedboyuk1]

There will be no re-writing of rules. This is a representation of the board game. I am almost certain that Games Workshop Licensing allows no fiddling with game mechanics and rules nor the characters...

[Colonel Bogey]

Originally posted by dogfacedboyuk1:

.Hes been in the game from the start....

Except for the 3rd edition...

[Vanilla Sky]

I remember that we fixed a rule : When the assassin draws an Adventure Card and there is a monster on it, the monster ATTACKS the assassin, so he can't assassinates the monster, as he was attacked by it before, it balanced a bit this OP character!

[Nectua]

And his wording was different originally. In second ed it was "an enemy already face up" if i remember right. All they have done is copied the revised 4th ed rules which is overpowered

[Vanilla Sky]

Right Nectua, I owned an older version than the 4th and it was faced rule (I re-read it a few min ago in French), they should use this rule.

[Nectua]

Sadly this just shows how i much i played the game 20 odd years ago to still rmember this.....

[Niebe]

I apologize if i'm wrong here because i'm new to Talisman and only played against AI but i fail to see how the assassin is overpowered.

Assassinate makes it easy to kill STR creatures very early which leads to STR increase through trophies, but Troll starts with 6 STR and warrior 4 STR and can chooses one die from 2 rolls, aren't they as good or almost as good for that task?

Then aginst players he is certain early on to be able to hurt them but i'd rather collect trophies and aventure cards at that stage. Also, from the games i've played so far healing seems to be plentyful so killing a player to loot him requires all players to gang up on him and good movement rolls to get there.

Maybe veterans of the game can enlighten me, thank you ^^.

[DeLyven]

Here is a post from boardgamegeek (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/363841/holy-assassin)
Someone sent FFG this question and got this answer:

1) Does the assassin power work only on face-up adventure cards, or on every enemy that he draws.

A: You may assassinate any Enemy card that fights in battle (but not psychic combat) even if the Enemy is already on the board or you just drew it.

Does it work on board elements? (pit fiends, farmer in the tavern, sentinel, etc).
A: Yes. Basically, if you are fighting a battle (but not psychic combat) your opponent does not get to make an attack roll against you. You simply compare your attack score (your attack roll plus your Strength) with the opponent's Strength to determine the winner. Note that if another character chooses to attack you instead of encountering the space that he lands in, you may not assassinate and the characters gets to make an attack roll against you as normal.

I own the 2nd edition of Talisman and there he can assassinate only creatures that are already face up, so i thought there is a bug in talismanDE. This new rule makes him very powerfull
I dont know if he is too powerful. Just play as him versus Warrior and Troll to check that :D

[Nectua]

As he starts at str 3 only a handful of the encounters can actually hurt him from the start. Even if he rolls a 1 the best even a str 4 monster can do is break even. It is possible for the assassin to beat the dragon on his first encounter. This seems overpowered to me