Reaper in City question

[Haldurson]

I just started trying out the new city expansion this evening, with all other expansions turned on. Apparently, the Reaper can move against the arrows in the city. Is this a legal move or a bug?

[ToothlessNightFury]

And consulted Sam Bailey....

[Haldurson]

Originally posted by Evil Puppy Cat:

Seriously? He just told you it's rules he came up with and submitted to Nomad. Read, do not skim.

I read -- he edited and added that after I posted my question. You might want to skip the caffeine.

[ToothlessNightFury]

The rules regarding clockwise movement in the City were introduced to prevent characters from revisiting the same Shop over and over again. The rules regarding entering a Shop were also introduced to specifically make it easier for characters to enter Shops. The rules regarding being sent to Jail also only apply to characters.

The Reaper is not subject to the clockwise movement around the City; he moves like he always does - in any direction - and he must move the full count as indicated by the die roll. This is the reason why he cannot just move into a Shop and stop like characters do. The Reaper may also enter the Jail but only if it is his last point of movement - the Jail cannot keep out the Reaper!

[Don Julio]

I think from a game mechanics view, it is desirable to have the Reaper being able to go in any direction in the City - even to enter shops if his dice roll brings him exactly to one. Because the City already offers many advantages to Characters (to some more than others), and the Reaper is more dangerous when moving in all directions. So this is kind of a balancing thing, game mechanics wise, and that's why I'd support that "Freedom for the Reaper".

However, the Reaper can only enter a shop if there is a character on it, too, since the Reaper doesn't have Gold to buy stuff, right?

[ToothlessNightFury]

Originally posted by Utile Dulci:

If he was able to enter shops without characters in them, then players would be able to trap the Reaper even further.

Of course the Reaper can enter a Shop without a character in it; the Reaper is not subject to rules regarding Shops like characters are (he cannot be affected by abilities, cards, spaces, Spells, etc.). However, the Reaper must move the exact distance as indicated by his die roll; he cannot just enter a Shop and waste the rest of his movement like a character can.

If you watch how the Reaper moves in the City Region right now, it will make it abundantly clear!

[Neil 666]

I just found a bug relating to the Reaper in the City: I moved the Reaper to the Treasure Chamber at the end of the Dungeon, so I should of had a choice of all spaces on all boards to move him to, but there were 6 spaces in the City which didn't flash (one of them was the Jail where one of the characters were)
The 6 spaces were: Academy, Sorcerer Square, Jail, Soothsayer, Menagerie, Stables & the Rogues' Guild.

[Don Julio]

Originally posted by Neil:

I just found a bug relating to the Reaper in the City: I moved the Reaper to the end of the Dungeon so I should of had a choice of all spaces on all boards to move him to, but there were 6 spaces in the City which didn't flash (one of them was the Jail where one of the characters were)
The 6 spaces were: Academy, Sorcerer Square, Jail, Soothsayer, Menagerie, Stables & the Rogues' Guild.

Have you filed a bug report? Looks like one...

[Neil 666]

I just wanted to make sure that this is a bug first, I made a new game (with 6 local player Black Witches!) to see if this happened again and it did.

[ToothlessNightFury]

Definitely a bug Neil, please report it.

[vidal22]

in answer to previous question about reaper movement in the city-if you look up talisman in wikipedia-it answers that question also about how the reaper can move about the city. I forget where they said the interpretation came from but it matched what toothless night faerie said

[ToothlessNightFury]

Fury not Fairy ggggrrrrrrr

[Umbrella Incorporated]

Originally posted by Toothless_Night_Fury:

Fury not Fairy ggggrrrrrrr

lol

[Neil 666]

Originally posted by Toothless_Night_Fury:

Definitely a bug Neil, please report it.

I've reported it Tinkerbell :)

[ToothlessNightFury]

Oh very funny!

[Haldurson]

Originally posted by Toothless_Night_Fury:

Fury not Fairy ggggrrrrrrr

Are you sure about that? Toothless Night Fairy is a much better name. You really need to consider changing it.