Talisman: Digital Classic Edition

Talisman: Digital Classic Edition

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May 10, 2022 @ 6:39am
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Does the AI Cheat? Yes.
Doesn't matter what made up trash excuse given by some biased bloke says, this game cheats, the rolls are heavily sided against the player vs AI, and it couldn't be more evident every time I play the game over the years. Each time I wonder if they've fixed the statistical failure this game is, only to learn they haven't and won't, which is fine because it's a dead game anyway. Every roll feels like a statistical XCOM 99% chance to hit, only to whiff or have every enemy roll solid sixes consistently. You've all spent time reading this, but I won't waste time reading yours.
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[FOAD]Iron May 10, 2022 @ 8:17am 
What does this intellectual, nay, genius know that I don't after 400+ hours of playing? What nuggets of wisdom can he share, what unknown, yet ancient, information could he speak to us, the unworthy?
JellyShark May 10, 2022 @ 3:12pm 
It just doesn't feel right. Every game the AI can go exactly where they need to including following me around and attacking me 3 turns IN A ROW. Like, yeah they roll poorly sometimes but most of the time they get exactly what rolls they need. But it's not just the rolls, I feel like that gets overlooked when the dev screams "ITS JUST BAD RNG GUYS" into the void.

They'll only draw encounters they can win or they hoard resources. In 80% of the games I play they will draw all the mule cards and it'll be one AI with like 5 mules. If the RNG is as fair as it allegedly is with the rolls why is the draw so bad? The AI is too aggressive against non computer players as well. They'll just gang up on me and never fight each other no matter if I'm in first or last place.

Even IF the whole system operates on being completely random like they claim then ok, make it not completely random. Obviously we don't like it the way it is. It feels unfair anyways, why not make it unfair in a way that makes this game playable. At least give us a real difficulty setting so the AI aren't out for blood turn 1
[FOAD]Iron May 11, 2022 @ 9:50am 
I don't know what the other long term players think but I've almost always found the game piss-easy and the only thing that stops me from winning is trying to keep at least 1 AI alive long enough to get a certain victory or achievement.
potterman28wxcv May 11, 2022 @ 12:47pm 
There should be a "Good Rolls" house rule which would increase the probability of human players to get good rolls. Then, we could just reply "just activate Good Rolls and stop complaining" to all those who do not seem to understand what "random" means.
Sir Rantalot May 14, 2022 @ 12:28pm 
Just some story from today:
I wanted to get the achievement for the vampire huntress to get the wooden pole.
AI played Vampire (castle, middle region) Vampyress and Exorcist. The Vampire soon got a wooden pole and dropped it at the castle, but I was not able to reach the middle regiion, no axe and not strong enough for the guardian.
So the game went on for another 10-20 rounds, where the vampire found a second wooden pole and dropped it in the oasis. All the time noone cared about them.
Then I managed to enter the middle region, but was one field short for the pole next to the castle. But with a 1 or 5 I seemed able to get a pole.
Vapires turn: He got onto the field just in front of me and grapped the pole. I rolled a 1 and attacked the vampire and took the pole as bounty - no achievement.
Next round the vampire jumped into oasis and took the other pole.

The other time I had a grudge on 1 AI Player for constantly harrassing me until I started to hunt him down. Than another AI player jumped in and cast immobiliy on me. But everything is fine ...
Last edited by Sir Rantalot; May 14, 2022 @ 12:30pm
The Troll King May 21, 2022 @ 7:09am 
What if you just didn't play the steam version anymore? I've heard legends speak of a physical edition released in the early 80's.
Met A Demon Once May 29, 2022 @ 5:59pm 
I quit playing this game in 2017 because of the lopsided die rolls.

I am in the Crown of Command and I think I had 7 or 11 chances to kill the only player in the game besides myself. I failed on each roll. That is a 50% chance over and over and over and over again failing.

I cam to the logical conclusion that there was something fundamentally wrong with the game and quit playing it.
The Troll King May 29, 2022 @ 6:00pm 
I'd support that the random generator pool is shallow, but come on, the game isnt conspiring against you! :D
[FOAD]Iron May 30, 2022 @ 1:55am 
Newbies always think everyone else is cheating.
Melkolf May 31, 2022 @ 11:15pm 
Yeah yeah (two positives can make a negative it seems despite what all the nay-sayers say), the game cheats, BIG TIME... The game's out to get me, BIG TIME...

Grow up you conspiracy nut-jobs, it's called RNG and although there are several ways of doing that in computer games, the method used in this game (creating a list of random numbers from 1 to 6 at the start of each game) is probably one of the worst. However, once that list is created the game doesn't change it during play. So how can the game cheat unless the draw of cards is also known at the start of a game long before characters are chosen and known.

If anything, this game is pre-determined no matter who you choose to be. Playing Talisman we all suffer our predestined destinies, so quit belly-aching and enjoy rolling with the curves on the roller-coaster you paid to ride.
Last edited by Melkolf; May 31, 2022 @ 11:19pm
Sir Rantalot Jun 1, 2022 @ 12:49am 
Nut-job yourself, you *Beep*
RNG left aside, there are patterns, that no one can oversee who played this game for some hours and not is sort of dense. I remember times, when the first attack in battle was a 1 - no matter who, no matter what. Was a nice time in hindsight - just don´t attack first.

I would call this faulty programming. And there are other examples:
- A fate-reroll delivers in an overwhelmingly number of cases the exact same number that you want to reroll, maybe in some script there is a missing command to pick the NEXT number of your praised number-list.
- Reaper-Roll of 6 -> dark fate reroll by AI - result 1. I saw this so often, that I try to remember, if there were other cases.
- If you drop an item and are within a die-roll-range of the AI, be ensured, the AI rolls the needed number.

I bet, there are many other examples, witnessed by other players. Instead of your all-knowing-insults you could help to make TDE a more enjoyable game. Do I like this game? YES (otherwise I would not waste my time posting here). Would I recomment it? HELL, NO.
Now go and take your trolling and shove it up your rear.
potterman28wxcv Jun 1, 2022 @ 2:09am 
I would call this faulty programming. [...]
maybe in some script there is a missing command to pick the NEXT number of your praised number-list.
I love it when non-programmers try to guess what is going on, and supposedly know better than the devs what is going on. You have zero credibility
David Jun 1, 2022 @ 2:59am 
To the talisman players who have posted on here about rigged dice rolls and annoying ai tendencies - I know it is a waste of time trying to convince you the dice rolls aren't rigged but I can offer you one small suggestion which you may find useful - try playing real people on line - for 2 good reasons in particular a) it is much more fun playing real people as they offer much more of a challenge and a better game and - b) you will see that real human players have bad luck just like yourself - give it a try - you may get a pleasant surprise !!!!!
potterman28wxcv Jun 1, 2022 @ 3:15am 
It's more like: they will find that online people also happen to have godlike rolls compared to them, and that the game is rigged against them in particular ;-)
Sir Rantalot Jun 1, 2022 @ 3:17am 
That´s why I said "Maybe", because it is a guess. I don`t say the game is cheating, because it doesn`t. Even the AI players fall for this traps and if you know how to use it, than the game get`s "piss-easy", as Iron called it.
What you do is much worse, calling people idiots, because they have another opinion and know everything, even my job, what was CNC-Programmer for Laser-Cutting-Machines (just in case someone cares about).
You sound like you programmed this game, so why don`t you shut your trap and go fix it?
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