Talisman: Digital Classic Edition

Talisman: Digital Classic Edition

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DirectOrder Nov 21, 2020 @ 10:10am
Bots prioritize Deep Realms too heavily
The AI bots seem to flock to the deep realms, even when they have very low stats. Often they will step in (to the bridge or to the bottom squares), lose some life, and then step right back out. Then, several turns later, they will do it again. I've had bots spend all of their lives doing this.

I'm guessing they evaluate the amount of treasure inside, and it skyrockets up to the top of their priority queue.

Whatever the issue is, it would be great if that could somehow be addressed in the next patch if possible. Thanks!
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LoneSylvan Nov 21, 2020 @ 6:24pm 
I agree... I have it switched off when I play AI games for this reason. We shouldn't have to do that of course.
I'm guessing the same as you... there are desirable upturned cards just sitting there... so to hell with the fact that they have no possible chance of surviving long enough to get them!
Still-Alive Nov 21, 2020 @ 8:39pm 
Yeah and that kinda sucks. wish the devs would address that sometime
DirectOrder Nov 21, 2020 @ 9:16pm 
Originally posted by Lone Sylvan:
I agree... I have it switched off when I play AI games for this reason. We shouldn't have to do that of course.
I'm guessing the same as you... there are desirable upturned cards just sitting there... so to hell with the fact that they have no possible chance of surviving long enough to get them!

Yeah, I think this is the case. The bots already have some sort of ....inhibition? programmed in that prevents them from doing the same with the crown of command (they don't rush for it at the beginning of the game - and, as a matter of opinion, they actually wait waaaay to long to go for it), so if the same inhibitions can be applied to the deep realms that would be great.
FraGmenToR Nov 22, 2020 @ 6:30am 
Yes - they need to fix this and the AI not trading in trophies. You cant really play with the deep realms enabled as the AI sucks at estimating whether its chances of winning through are possible
Mors Avis Nov 22, 2020 @ 2:13pm 
I have the Deep Realms switched off as well, since the AI loves to suicide there, over and over and over.
100%. I've been bringing this up for a while. This was the problem when Deep Realms first came out, but it seemed to me that they improved it. But it's happening again. I have the strong impression that this was mostly fixed up until the October patch, and somehow in October it got rolled back.

So this and the AI not trading trophies need a fix.

>I have the Deep Realms switched off as well, since the AI loves to suicide there, over and over and over.

It's so funny to watch them flee out with one health from an unsurpassable threat and then decide, "hey, I think I'll go BACK IN THERE, that stuff on the floor looks cool". Funny, but tiresome. I just want better for the poor bots
DirectOrder Nov 24, 2020 @ 9:02am 
They also seem to really like the Woodlands. It doesn't look like they are quite as obsessed with it as they are the Deep Realms, but their fascination with it might need to be looked at as well.
Jarosław Tusk Dec 5, 2020 @ 7:20am 
I see that AI draws its favorite expansion to promote and goes there at all costs. Dep Realms, Dungeon, Woodlands or City loop gold-scrol-gold-scrol.
Simon Dec 9, 2020 @ 10:53pm 
I too struggle to understand any fascination with the Woodlands.
jonnin Dec 10, 2020 @ 7:17am 
Mine have a woodlands fetish as well, and invariably 1-2 of them will die in there very early, or escape and die on the main board due to going in there, same thing.
The scroll obsession ... I don't know. A one time buy of the spell book is a lifetime of scrolls, but the AI is coded for the here and now.

The woodlands does make sense. Its a little tough, but you can get a destiny very quickly if you can dodge bad cards, and a good early destiny (I think there are 3 free ones and 2 or
3 more that you don't have to fight for?) can let you run away with the game. And there are a few AI loved items in there; the AI loves to get 40 lives from that scale of balance thingy, and 2 spell wands + a book, and such. But they really, really should buy a weapon and armor first, and maybe not go in if their craft is trollish.

It feels like if you want the AI to have a chance beyond extreme good luck in the first 10 rounds, you have to turn off all the expansions except city and highlands, and give them runestones (decline for yourself unless random char roll setting and one of get the worst guys). Otherwise you generally end up with the idiot that does nothing all game, 2 dead guys, and one lucky survivor that you have to either do something about or out race.
Last edited by jonnin; Dec 10, 2020 @ 7:25am
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Date Posted: Nov 21, 2020 @ 10:10am
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