Discarding cursed items as a Ghost

[Forest kin]

Hi,

When playing as a ghost you also get cursed items sometimes.
To discard these you must visit the graveyard or the chapel, but i find that it is not possible as a ghost.

How do i discard these cursed items?

[Hidron]

Looking through the Realm of Souls manual, I don't see anything that should prevent a ghost from entering those spaces. https://www.nomadgames.co.uk/talisman-digital-edition-manual-uk/#RoS

[potterman28wxcv]

Yeah that part is a bit weird - you can't visit the Chapel or Graveyard as a ghost because all spaces are replaced by "draw 1 card" thing.

So that item can only be discarded by 1) resurrecting, and then 2) visiting chapel or graveyard

[cheshirecatgirl]

You can no longer encounter the chapel nor the graveyard as a ghost, the chapel and graveyard are in a realm you are no longer part of.
It doesn't matter where you land, you have to draw a card from the veil deck.

Edit: oops cross posting with Potterman

[ecla]

There are some Veil cards and game events that cause all players including Ghosts to discard objects and followers, including Wrath of the Dragon King and similar.

[Da' Vane]

Originally posted by potterman28wxcv:

Yeah that part is a bit weird - you can't visit the Chapel or Graveyard as a ghost because all spaces are replaced by "draw 1 card" thing.

So that item can only be discarded by 1) resurrecting, and then 2) visiting chapel or graveyard

Aren't those cards "Soul-bound"?

If so, then these items are supposed to remain with you when you resurrect, and then visit the location.

If not, then those cards are only supposed to remain whilst you are a Ghost, and are discarded when you resurrect.

There's currently no space to discard cursed objects as a Ghost.

From the looks of it, none of this is weird - it's all part of the design intention for these items.

[potterman28wxcv]

Well the design is weird ;) and misleading. I think it could be better phrased

items are ditched when you go from ghost to character (or vice versa), not discarded as far as I remember

[Da' Vane]

Originally posted by potterman28wxcv:

Well the design is weird ;) and misleading. I think it could be better phrased

items are ditched when you go from ghost to character (or vice versa), not discarded as far as I remember

I meant ditched, my bad.

The design itself doesn't seem that weird. It's just a cursed soulbound item. However, the Soulbound trait is pictorial rather than written, it's easy to miss.

I believe the weirdness might come more from the Realm of Souls representation itself - because it uses the same board, it's too easy to forget that EVERY SPACE becomes a Draw 1 Veil Card space, so when you land on the space that would be the Chapel, you aren't actually landing on the Chapel.

A better representation of the realm of souls would have been much more desirable than just a simple graphics change...

[Neil 666]

Originally posted by Da' Vane:

I believe the weirdness might come more from the Realm of Souls representation itself - because it uses the same board, it's too easy to forget that EVERY SPACE becomes a Draw 1 Veil Card space, so when you land on the space that would be the Chapel, you aren't actually landing on the Chapel.

A better representation of the realm of souls would have been much more desirable than just a simple graphics change...

It would be better if the space text was changed for all affected spaces when the Realm of Souls board is being shown.