Only Red Tokens and Harbinger Cards

[Eoin Lynne]

For a while now (roughly 40 turns for the scales and 10 or maybe 15 turns for the omen cards) all I have been getitng are red tokens, sleep tokens, rage tokens and Harbinger deck cards. Could someone tell me what is going on?

[cheshirecatgirl]

You can download all manuals here, might help if you read a bit.
It is a complicated game, so it takes awhile till you understand it completely, I am even still learning myself!
http://nomadgames.co.uk/talisman-digital-edition-manual-uk/

You are obviously playing with Dragon expansion and the Harbinger expansion on.

With the Dragon expansion on each turn you have to draw a dragon token, there are Grilipus tokens (green), Varthrax tokens (red), Cadorus tokens (yellow), slumber tokens, Dragon rage tokens and dragon strike tokens.
Each have a specific meaning and can have a direct impact.
I could explain them all but it might really be easier to read it.

When you are in the same region as the Harbinger you always draw cards from the harbinger deck instead of the normal adventure deck.

Let me know if you want more clarification, can do that tomorrow if needed.

[Eoin Lynne]

Publicado originalmente por cheshirecatgirl:

You can download all manuals here, might help if you read a bit.
It is a complicated game, so it takes awhile till you understand it completely, I am even still learning myself!
http://nomadgames.co.uk/talisman-digital-edition-manual-uk/

You are obviously playing with Dragon expansion and the Harbinger expansion on.

With the Dragon expansion on each turn you have to draw a dragon token, there are Grilipus tokens (green), Varthrax tokens (red), Cadorus tokens (yellow), slumber tokens, Dragon rage tokens and dragon strike tokens.
Each have a specific meaning and can have a direct impact.
I could explain them all but it might really be easier to read it.

When you are in the same region as the Harbinger you always draw cards from the harbinger deck instead of the normal adventure deck.

Let me know if you want more clarification, can do that tomorrow if needed.

I actually figured out what was wrong on both fronts not long after posting this when I noticed a npc did not get the harbinger cards in the outer region while I still did in them iddle with the harbinger there. Also as for the tokens, all of the npcs are hoarding their tokens (and they have all of them other than the red ones, so there are no more tokens for the other kings, I need a way to force them to discard some tokens, any ideas?

[cheshirecatgirl]

You lost me completely here!

What ending are you on?
And why do you want/need the AIs to discard their scales?

The scales you get from battling dragons give you a boost when fighting dragons from the same deck.

How can there be no more tokens?
Never encountered that!
I assume you are still drawing tokens every turn?

I somehow have the feeling you are interpreting the rules of the ending wrong, but not sure.

There is 1 card in the Varthrax deck that will make the AI discard their scales: The Martial Artist.
For every scale discarded you get 1 str or craft point.
You can level up your stats that way pretty fast but you lose the advantage you had from the scales. So like many things in Talisman you have to weigh you decission here in terms of what you need most: the higher base stats OR the dragon scale boost.

Like I said before it is a complex game.

And this time I can't fully answer your question, because I simply don't understand it.
But maybe you can explain what is going on some more?

[Eoin Lynne]

Turn 182 currently. The game seems to have a hard limit of 38 or so tokens each. Because all of the red and yellow tokens were being horded by the npcs (they would not even discard them to avoid death) it was permanitly Varthrax and the followers were dropping like flies. I have since manged to get it to change to Grilipus and it is now stuck as Grilipus because now I am hording all the red scales (the lesser of the 3 evils). Yes I was and are still drawing tokens (only sleep, multi token, and rage). The ending is the Nether Guantlet. Thank you for your advice (I used the martial artist to get them to discard scales and that is how I fixed this issue). The AI ditched all their scales, then I swooped in with my 150 str and slaughtered them before then could do anything with their new found power. Now that Varthrax is no longer king it is safe to use my infinite turns and have some real fun. ^^

[☼Desendos☼]

Publicado originalmente por Eoin Lynne:

Turn 182 currently. The game seems to have a hard limit of 38 or so tokens each.

There are a limited pool of tokens. Some of which can remain behind on the board. When you run out much like decks you refresh your tokens from the discarded ones.