Talisman: Digital Classic Edition

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Saiko Kila Sep 4, 2017 @ 1:38am
How to confront a Dragon King?
I recently started using hidden endings, and also the dragon expansion. In current game, as a Dragon Rider, I entered dungeon (for the first time, too), and at the end had enough attack points to jump straigth to the center. The ending was revealed to be Confront the Dragon King.

Now, being stuck at the center, I would assume that the confronting part is automatical. But nothing happens. My character is just standing there, with each her turn giving option to cast (or queue spells), use bag of carrying, like normal, but no move option, nor attack option. Am I missing some obvious button, or is the dragon rider just riding the dragon king for fun? Other characters (AI) are currently too weak to even try to enter the Inner Region. The seem to play as normal.

One thing which is strange to me is that each dragon lord has lives count at 0. But this was also case with other games, it's just this is the first time that hidden ending is the one dealing with the dragons directly. I expected their lives would be filled when/if encountered. But how to do so?
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tragedytrousers Sep 4, 2017 @ 2:24am 
I had this happen to me in the Beta once - I quit the game and went back in, and it worked normally, with me automatically attacking the King on my turn.
penguinaphberry Sep 4, 2017 @ 3:37am 
has just happened to me too - am attempting tragedytrousers suggestion
penguinaphberry Sep 4, 2017 @ 3:39am 
quitting and coming back works, thank you tragedytrousers :)
Cook66 Sep 4, 2017 @ 5:21am 
I had the same problem. I just thought no dragon was crowned yet or something. The AI now has 20/20 and a ton of stuff and I'm probably going to lose.

There are som many bugs in this expansion...
Saiko Kila Sep 4, 2017 @ 5:32am 
Thanks. It didn't work for me, but I know now that this is a bug. I finally ended this game.

I tried to restart the game, but it worked the same (bugged). Then I reverted to a save which I archived before entering the Lord of Darkness chamber in dungeon, but it still was not-working the same. So I reverted the save once again, went to the Crown of Command normally, revealed another hidden ending - which was to defeat the Lord of Darkness... And I did that, after too many adventures.
vidal22 Sep 4, 2017 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Saiko Kila:
Thanks. It didn't work for me, but I know now that this is a bug. I finally ended this game.

I tried to restart the game, but it worked the same (bugged). Then I reverted to a save which I archived before entering the Lord of Darkness chamber in dungeon, but it still was not-working the same. So I reverted the save once again, went to the Crown of Command normally, revealed another hidden ending - which was to defeat the Lord of Darkness... And I did that, after too many adventures.

yeah-which by the way is another bug-the hidden ending not set and that it changes sometimes when you quit and reenter
Saiko Kila Sep 4, 2017 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by vidal22:
Originally posted by Saiko Kila:
I tried to restart the game, but it worked the same (bugged). Then I reverted to a save which I archived before entering the Lord of Darkness chamber in dungeon, but it still was not-working the same. So I reverted the save once again, went to the Crown of Command normally, revealed another hidden ending - which was to defeat the Lord of Darkness... And I did that, after too many adventures.

yeah-which by the way is another bug-the hidden ending not set and that it changes sometimes when you quit and reenter

I was surprised that hidden ending is not really hidden, but just not determined. It seems the game just saves a seed for RNG algorithm or something, so this can be exploited for better or worse.
jamielatkinson Sep 4, 2017 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by Saiko Kila:
Originally posted by vidal22:

yeah-which by the way is another bug-the hidden ending not set and that it changes sometimes when you quit and reenter

I was surprised that hidden ending is not really hidden, but just not determined. It seems the game just saves a seed for RNG algorithm or something, so this can be exploited for better or worse.

I think this might be to prevent the AI knowing what the ending actually is (not that the current AI seems to have much desire to win a game at the moment), so long as there isn't any bugs with the endgame this is normally not an issue but becomes one when the ending develops a bug.
☼Desendos☼ Sep 4, 2017 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by Saiko Kila:
Originally posted by vidal22:

yeah-which by the way is another bug-the hidden ending not set and that it changes sometimes when you quit and reenter

I was surprised that hidden ending is not really hidden, but just not determined. It seems the game just saves a seed for RNG algorithm or something, so this can be exploited for better or worse.
At that point you are cheating anyway. Though we might need to think about doing this anyway when we get to woodlands cause of this guy[www.talismanwiki.com].
vidal22 Sep 4, 2017 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Desendos:
Originally posted by Saiko Kila:

I was surprised that hidden ending is not really hidden, but just not determined. It seems the game just saves a seed for RNG algorithm or something, so this can be exploited for better or worse.
At that point you are cheating anyway. Though we might need to think about doing this anyway when we get to woodlands cause of this guy[www.talismanwiki.com].

true-there is one card on the woodland's that changes the ending to a random hidden ending which the player who draws the card is allowed to peak at. And yeah, discovered the not random hidden ending by accident(supposidly) when an op in a multiplayer game supposedly dc'd after encountering the eagle king and lost and when sent to the crags-dc'd. ai went in and the ending changed to crown of flame. Happily that op ended up losing anyway-but now i suspect he might have been cheating-hoping to get the ai to draw a different ending
Saiko Kila Sep 4, 2017 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Desendos:
Originally posted by Saiko Kila:

I was surprised that hidden ending is not really hidden, but just not determined. It seems the game just saves a seed for RNG algorithm or something, so this can be exploited for better or worse.
At that point you are cheating anyway. Though we might need to think about doing this anyway when we get to woodlands cause of this guy[www.talismanwiki.com].

You may do like some strategy games do, and use more than one pseudorandom series, for different purposes different series (or just a reinitiliaised one). Then if the game crashes (or freezes, as it's more prone to), and the player needs to reload, he won't be able to utilise his prophetic knowledge, unconsciously or not. Though the example in the link would need determined outcome, indeed.
Farcast Sep 4, 2017 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by Desendos:
Though we might need to think about doing this anyway when we get to woodlands
Which would be now, right?
RIGHT?
:D
Last edited by Farcast; Sep 4, 2017 @ 10:52am
☼Desendos☼ Sep 4, 2017 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Farcast:
Originally posted by Desendos:
Though we might need to think about doing this anyway when we get to woodlands
Which would be now, right?
RIGHT?
:D
Top secret. I mean even saying it's top secret could get me k-
Farcast Sep 4, 2017 @ 11:21pm 
No, the AI dev :(
:D
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