Editor crashes when i build geometry

[{ST}jkcrmptn]

I am currently trying to port over unreal 2 geometry and i got over the geometry but when i try and build it do it shows up it just crashes does anyone have any ideas? if you want i can send udk for you to look at. the brushes also only show up in brush wireframe mode

[{ST}jkcrmptn]

some more detail after some more testing it seems to only crash on it if i build a big csg square around first for it to carve into but if i place the square after the brushes it builds but doesnt do anything with the brushes from ue2

[A JANITOR]

Pretty sure ya need to invert the brushes you imported
Huge CSG add cube must be in place before ya import
Also pretty sure the t3d conversion output needs to be set to 2013 ut3 format as a newer version of the conversion software will convert it to ue4 and ue4 brushes don't work in ue3

Like I said before doing this usually results in failure 9 out of 10 tries
It's very hit n miss aka a lucky dip

Perhaps look at the old unreal website for outdated obsolete tools and ya might get lucky

Also make sure it only selected the brushes and nothing else before you save it as a t3d file in ue2 before you convert it and import it into ue3

Lol massive can of worms it's a nightmare and way too much work
Lots of stuff can break
Brushes that were movers are corrupt try n convert those to static meshes or delete them before ya build da geometry

The scale often gets really messed up lol it can import into a screwed up ball of garbled star shaped cubes or be the wrong shape n have gaps everywhere or it can import fine and be too big when it does decide to work

Then ya got another week or two making new textures and materials only while having to repaint all of the brushes in the map 1 at a time manually

Can of worms gonna keep you awake at night for a loooooong time

Finish TF2 project before it has a catastrophic failure n nothing loads
Not fun when trying something new borks a really big project along with the rest of the game

Go down the YouTube rabbit hole
Buy a lotto ticket if ya find anything for ue3 as every search result is ue4 ue5 even if you type unreal engine 3 or unreal engine three stupid Google still shows uue4 and ue5 cuz some bright spark at epic games deleted the ue3 forums and only kept what's left of its default useless rubbish threads that are always full of broken links to questions that were answered years ago=
The answer is 404 not found

Wing it n find out on a wing and a prayer 🙏

Now play the musical chairs music it's time for a game musical wires inside the game of faulty operation
Poke at the wrong socket ya gonna get zapped
Poke the right socked n ya gonna get a new hairstyle=bald from swearing at it while it sings the

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[{ST}jkcrmptn]

Hey aJanitor could you also check your steam messages I ain’t more details there too

[A JANITOR]

only way ya gonna find whats crashing it is
1=look at ya log files to find the offending actor=delete it n try again
2=bash head against a wall
3=yell at it
4=keep trying until it works=maybe half of it 1st eh
5=send me t3d file=1% chance of me fixing it:)
it must have no textures its gotta be blank bsp brushes

6 my cat went missing=busy looking for my cat:(

[A JANITOR]

files corrupt lol

might as well delete it

[A JANITOR]

new files=
Old MacDonald had a PC
Ee i ee i o
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Ee i ee i oh
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And a bug-bug there
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And a crash-crash there
Here a crash, there a crash
Everywhere a crash-crash
Old MacDonald has Windows 11
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Welcome to unreal engine 3

delete it dude its a lost cause
focus on ya tf2 project instead

fyi curse of horus is cursed=very very broken=lol

[{ST}jkcrmptn]

ah ok ill delete it. and also what is broken on curse of horus? seems to work fine for me

[{ST}jkcrmptn]

actually

Originally posted by A JANITOR:

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And a bug-bug there
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Everywhere a bug-bug
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With a crash-crash here
And a crash-crash there
Here a crash, there a crash
Everywhere a crash-crash
Old MacDonald has Windows 11
Ee i ee i Nooooooo...

Welcome to unreal engine 3

delete it dude its a lost cause
focus on ya tf2 project instead

fyi curse of horus is cursed=very very broken=lol

one more thing i wanna try you said i gotta remove all textures from the bsp how would i do that?

[A JANITOR]

Lol ya gotta nerf a lot of stuff including flat and non solid brushes
Remove content easy
Load original map file in blank version of engine
Voilla a gazillion errors and plenty of missing textures xd
Also that t3d conversion got updated for ue4
Ue3 convert options don't exist anymore

1 thing you can try
Export t3d file from nerfed map file
Export a t3d file from VCD
Compare the information at the very top of each file
Make t3d file have same information as VCD t3d file
Can't remember might have to change or delete a few lines at the top n that's if it's not encrypted vs say notepad++
But it will be a messed up borked mess that ya still gotta fix in ue3 after setting ue2 files to read as ue3 files it bit corrupt lol so uncorrupt it= lol buy a lotto ticket if it works xd

Can of worms n a waste of time lol
1.% chance of success

[A JANITOR]

lol even if ya do get it working it's gonna take ya months to rebuild the map from scratch

waste of time xd

original curse of horus
lol use the bucket machine a few times=bins n buckets stuck inside the ceiling
fire also gets stained
there is a ton of meshes you cant see in the editor but can only see in the game
long list of borked lol and the udk file is corrupt too it had a space in its name and was renamed=still corrupt=needs a heart lung and brain transplant into new not borked udk file
lol soda factory also corrupt=it borks the vulcan dlc n causes crashes and bricks multiplayer
medical rust also stops multiplayer from working too

pretty sure the save setup is missing too
i fixed the enex maps ages ago=enex was too arrogant to update the originals that he still thinks that people can sub n play after it broke in 2015
bahahaha sub to outdated maps bricks the mod installer=everything else fails to update or install

aiegis was ok=borked stacking
same with frostflow borked stacking

devs changed vcd quite a bit since then=expect a ton of invisible errors

uploading old junk waste of time unless ya spend some time n update it properly

at least swap corridoor of broken as balls doom for endless tunnel n add mess n blood to that to make that one playable
not fun playing outdated stuff that gets ya fired

mwdragon did the same thing copied n pasted em leaving a trail of borked outdated stuff on the workshop that bricks ya mod installer too cuz everyone has been hounding me for years to make a tf2 map=not gonna happen from me but you already 95% done with that lol so get tf2 out of ya hair instead of working on multiple things before it gives ya VCD PTSD n ya BURNOUT FROM THE STRESS while ya struggle to keep everything you already have UPDATED cuz patching bugs never stops cuz even windows updates cause map bugs too lol n windows update deleted my video driver again this week even after i permanently disabled windows update from installing drivers it still nerfs my video driver replacing it with lagfgy crap called microsoft generic monitor driver=get lost microsoft stop breaking my pc after every dam windows update

focus on something new xd=its more fun n i bet people are dying to play that tf2 thing ya working on

as for my ww2 thing im not happy with it so it may never reach the workshop as kinda in the same boat as zero with their oasis project that i think looks beautiful but for some reason zero not happy with the results from that one

don't nerf ya oasis zero its got loads of potential

[A JANITOR]

You make nice maps
Don't screw it up with recycling outdated obsolete abandoned mods even Zero said it too
Focus on ya tf2 thing and that space station ya showed me some really cool pictures of and if ya lucky valve won't DMCA ya tf2 map xd

Good idea to avoid anything that is copyrighted ©️
Especially if ya subs stream ya maps on say YouTube and twitch n they cop a copyright strike for playing ya map after they turned ya custom radio on lol
I get free for any use stuff ya can't get in trouble then and I am surprised elgeof hasn't been nailed by Nintendo for uploading Nintendo 64 maps let alone a ripped duke Nukem map as well as ripping hoh n putting that in rise of the triad with a ton of other maps ripped from quake and doom too as nothing he made is original
Ouch

It was bad enough finding Santa's rampage on Garry's mod workshop

Like can't people ask the developers if it's okay to do it 1st
Most the time the reply is a yes it's good PR for em

Lol if you were to port say shadow warrior to Garry's mod then devolver digital will be after ya with a chainsaw

Corridor of doom is pretty lame lol it's barely a template map


Also a good idea to backup your game folder and delete the game and reinstall it monthly

Making maps can easily corrupt the games vanilla files then if ya patch a map with borked vanilla files it spreads to your subscribers=not fun telling everyone how to fix it after ya broke it xd and verify game cache doesn't fix jack until everything is deleted then ya verify the game cache as steam skips old and corrupt files and only replaces deleted file lol cuz verify game cache in every game has been broken since 2013 and steam cloud makes it worse so disable that unwanted crap too as cloud screws up everything in ya steam library

All vanilla files stay vanilla
It was hard enough making a few office mods without screwing up multiplayer

Ya better off just focus on making new maps n try n avoid the copyright BS
Find free stuff or ask permission in writing for it cuz if they say yes then ya can go rip it till the cows come home without getting in trouble one day

Someone got nailed by ue4 doom Devs
They didn't ask permission to use the e1m1 and e1m2 files from the ue3 version they had
Lol glad I asked 1st cuz they said yes even though said source files had no textures just blank bsp brushes and that was also very broken there was gaps n misplaced geometry everywhere n it took months to make the VCD doom maps without using anything from doom it all fan made free stuff and lol so many of VCD's default textures pass as pretty convincing doom textures vs bsp brushes xd

[A JANITOR]

Lol this is what happens to your VCD and ya subscribers VCD if you don't nuke the game and reinstall it after making maps for say a year n ya broke a ton of vanilla files without even knowing cuz verify game cache skipped it n didn't fix anything at all

https://youtu.be/RUHHqFTh9BI
verify game cache 6458645864586 times= 8-10 files to be validated=
STILL BROKEN STEAM SKIPPED EVERYTHING THAT IS BROKEN=WHAT ELSE IS NEW=
Janitor killed the dinosaurs n borked everyones game from uploading corrupted mods
oucha magoucha

lol ya gotta be super careful when ya make mods=all vanilla files stay vanilla then ya can't BRICK IT can ya=happy days

MANUALLY NUKE IT=1000+ files to be validated=fixed=hooray
now go reinstall ya mods manually n discover a ton of editor load errors that altered the vanilla files n fix it then update it without corrupting the vanilla files AGAIN
THEN GO TELL X THOUSANDS OF SUBCRIBERS TO BACKUP THE SAVES FOLDER DELETE THE GAME N REINSTALL IT TO FIX IT ON THIER END=OH GOD THE TORTURE

Then ya get a comment
my office stash is gone=lol should have backed up the saves folder but ya didn't listen
get another comment=
whatever you made me do fixed ya map and multiplayer in every level miraculously started working instead of saying cancer connect attempt=rolf lmfao I TOLD YA SO

Glad I know how to make homers time travel toaster but also how to use it wisely so I don't make the universe cave in let alone make VCD self destruct by accident 😁

Homers toaster works in VCD
1 mistake can kill VCD too even if it looks like it still works and it takes more than a decade to find em especially since most of the bugs are invisible

BlackEagle taught me well and putting yourself in the Devs shoes is easier said than done..
Devs work harder than us mod makers

Lol I remember this like it was yesterday
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=514603999
So so true what Devs said in the fine print 🐾 now try not to make the universe cave in aye...

Have fun patching da bugs cuz even windows update causes bugs too and so do video driver updates lol start VCD n the sky is white=oh oh n ya don't notice it was broken for say 5 years when ya find a YouTube video of it n said video creator failed to post a BUG report on ya workshop comments
Lol oh so funny
Not=
fixes bug 7 years later=looks at map stats=oh Christ why did everyone press the dislike button instead of the like button=there's ya answer:(
fortunately hardly anybody presses the dislike button but lol give me 5 stars for at least one of my maps xd=nup trolls rate em down instead and rate up the oudated stuff the game can't even install vs the subscribe button=like seriously how stupid are people sometimes to rate up something that is horrifically broken

Updating ya mods never stops cuz after ya make a few maps this happens
https://youtu.be/GhSW9vDTRyY
It takes more than a of water to quench a VCD meltdown too and trust me VCD has had plenty of official and unofficial meltdowns that i helped fix=disaster averted we clean again on a new day instead of staring at a black screen=lots of fun...
Lol that plaque would make a great eotm award in the ue4 port:)

Lol the pool of death series has a nickname
Pool of bugs for a very good reason
Old test maps xd n I still haven't fixed the portal gun but I fixed Matti's portal gun instead and made a portal map too

Now go have fun with the level editor
Safely 🙏

oh yeah the cat came home he got locked in next doors garage again=phew
wasn't fun walking the streets looking for a skittled cat on the side of the road
yesterday was very stressful=
cat made me go for a 40 klm walk
irony i lost a few kilos=thanks puss but now he wont go wandering anymore he begged to get back inside this morning 5 minutes after I let him out to the toilet instead of begging to get outside lol n if ya let him out to the toilet he comes back 8 hours later now he returns in 5 minutes=puss learnt a valuable lesson=other peoples houses are traps
sweet Milla is couch surfing now so i don't have to think my cat died n go for another 40 klm walk eh

those t3d files ya gave me were more than broken
that udk file also crashes even if ya delete everything in the map n try n build the geometry cuz both of the udk files are corrupt too

the blank template map sux too the kill z is broken and the nav mesh is missing n so is the lightmass importance volume

use one of the lit ones n fix that from crashing on next load before ya add stuff to it as all of the template maps crash on ya

how to fix a lit template map morning afternoon night etc
delete the sky its too big
delete the fog
delete the white slab after ya place a floor mesh on it cuz the kill z is right under it
delete the cube brush
setup the mymapinfo stuff
don't forget the save setup info:)
file
save as
save map as new mod name in a new folder in mods folder
quit editor
start it again
load map=hooray now it wont crash on ya
build all
now add stuff to it n make a map out of that

blank template sux xd blank template=broken

circle of doom was the official template map until blackeagle took that one down:(

bloodbath map of mine has a fix for the corrupt curved evil science wall textures too=
i fixed the corrupt wall mesh in blender=yay but only the devs can copy n paste my fixed mesh to replace the broken mesh into evil science officially
evil science still has dog water matrix lines on the curved wall meshes=its borked lol cus the original mesh has corrupt lightmap res its 100 in the content browser and 64 in the map but you can't fix evil science=multiplayer will stop working if ya fix it xd
the ice rocks under the stairs in the ice cave have borked textures with flickering white cubes all over it in frostbite too=lol corrupt normals=unplug the normal in a new material=fixed n if yafix the dev one you corrupt frostbite and every map that uses said frozen rock meshes
i fixed that in cry o g therapy:)

i also fixed stains going under the garbage chute in my office mods=yay clean freak achievement works=
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2830520265
sometimes NO-SPLAT VOLUMES DON'T WORK AT ALL=LOL

lol i can't remember how many bugs i have fixed let alone created and patched those out too
don't forget you're here forever:)

[{ST}jkcrmptn]

OK sorry I've been bothering you with this I've just wanted to make this map forever. okay thank you. glad your cat is back btw :D

[A JANITOR]

keep searching online you will find a way=ue3 stuff is rare as hens teeth=try not to download a virus cuz most links are fake if ya do find tools

to me its a waste of time=too much work

maybe ask cannonfodder how he ported die sector if ya wanna do kf2 in vcd

[A JANITOR]

https://youtu.be/5FKHyGi4jz8

lol where there is a will there is a way as a janitor I am a crazy mad scientist as I thought that since nothing worked I would Just go postal on it=brute force:)

if ya got postal 2 install posted ue2 editor (Posted editor from steam tools list)

open blank map in ue2 editor=postal 2 editor=leave it open do nothing yet

open killing floor editor
open map
select all bsp brushes n copy em

pate that in a new txt file on desktop

select all actors=delete everything in the map

open txt file
edit
select all
copy

paste into map in killing floor editor

file
export
export t3d file




open vcd editor

make new udk file n setup the mymapinfo n save setup n set the kill z to -6000
build all
save new udk file in mods folder
quit editor
start vcd editor
load new map=cool it didn't crash the editor=yay

add a massive additive brush with the builder brush=giant cube
go wireframe mode and copy the add brush

paste that brush into blank postal 2 map in postal 2 editor

import ue2 killing floor t3d file into ya vcd map=dont build it or it crashes
select all brushes
copy em

paste it in postal 2 map

select all brushes in postal 2 map
transform
transform permanently
export t3d file

make another new udk file in vcd n setup mymapinfo n kill z again n build all save file quit editor start editor load new map

( above in this thread i showed ya how to fix vcd map templates from crashing=fix the night one as new map)
delete the cube additive brush in the middle inside the builder brush
delete the sky delete the fog
save map

template is ready

import the t3d file ya exported from postal 2 ue2 editor

build
build all

it should compile the map and reveal the geometry
move the player start somewhere inside the geometry n build paths
save map
press pie button=go walkabout in untextured bsp map with ya mop

cool its working

t3d converter doesn't work as it makes brushes for ue4=aaaahhhhhhhhh

I am pretty sure that's what I did as nothing on the internet works at all and there is no t3d converter for ue3


hope one finds this useful while porting bsp geometry from unreal engine 2 into unreal engine 3

lol there was less than 2% chance of making it work= We have Victory

you know how to do the rest=same as ya tf2 project
god thats gonna take at least a month to finish porting everything ya need
meshes textures etcn mixamo the the bodies from static meshes to skeletal meshes with no finger bones
export fbx as 7.4 binary from mixamo n convert it with autodesk fbx converter 2013
import skeletal mesh to vcd n make new body aka bodies out of all the kf2 characters npc's etc

burn em in vcd's incinerator

lots of fun to tackle an advanced project
may ya mop be with ya cuz ya gonna need it as it took me over a month to port one of my doom maps from unreal engine 1 to 2 to 3

on a wing and a prayer=good luck I sent ya fixed udk file as all of your files were crashing and I used corrupt files to fix it via postal 2 so I could post it to VCD

lol going postal really does work=should have been a mail man like postal dude xd

OPERATION UNBRICK=SUCCESSFUL
now ya have an untextured bsp killing floor Biotics lab map in VCD



happy trails now I just laid an egg so go forth and incubate it until it hatches on the workshop:)

sweet now I know how to port postal 2 maps into VCD
Muhwahaha n i found a way to backwards port ue4 maps into ue3 VCD too via FModel Blender 3.0 or latest blender for static meshes Mixamo dead and alive bodies Autodesk fbx converter 2013 and VCD editor a txt file and windows notepad and paint dot net to mod da textures to tga files
Double Muhwahahaha
https://youtu.be/7RRYVn9Z3qw
I also found a video on how to port my ue3 workshop VCD maps to ue4
https://youtu.be/3_6jaHymQQw
https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/looking-for-advice-on-porting-my-game-from-udk-to-ue4/4906
Tripple Muhwahahaha just gotta wait for ue4/ue5 VCD to be born but will have to setup custom objects n bodies from scratch in ue4 and ue4 can migrate to ue5=awesome:)

Lol Viscera Cleanup Detail in Death Warmed up ue4/ue5 eh when the vcd port gets a steam workshop its gonna have a massive ue3 workshop map portathon so I should be able to port all of my ue3 vcd maps to ue4 vcd when that gets released cuz I know it works:)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2448668387

Ue5 Dev kit and ue5 games run fine on my pc too=
quadruple Muhwahaha

same results as cannonfOdder's artwork=
https://youtu.be/OLAJ0PekFD4
ABRICAFLABRA

Can I turn the janitor into a playable washing machine?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2885385767
Yes
https://youtu.be/Aikopkmxkk8
If I can be a vacuum cleaner I can be a washing machine combined with a sand monster too=the ultimate garbage disposal unit now I can finally wash the dishes in house of horror after I modify the laundry appliances in hoh and spawn as a playable washing machine that growls at ya
Muhwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

How did I figure that out=WILD GUESS=
In the name of Jesus we have victory over Satan all you need is FAITH and a mechanical mind ON A WING AND A PRAYER WHILE YA WING IT N FIND OUT AS INSTRUCTIONS DO NOT EXIST
BAH WHO NEEDS INSTRUCTIONS=IF IT DOESN'T WORK=FORCE IT TO WORK


VICTORY SO WHO WANTS TO PLAY AS A RIDE ON LAWNMOWER AFTER I COMBINE THAT WITH THE WOODCHIPPER VS LAWNMOWER BLADES=OH GOD THE MESS

If ue4 vcd gets drivable vehicles=
https://youtu.be/aENX_8DtWmk
who wants to play Janitor kart 64 with a twist:)
my 1st postal 4 mod=toilet scooter with flushable toilet and working fluid physics

fun stuff n postal dude needs a real scooter lol

https://youtu.be/Hfjg6_Ivye0

also if ya just wanna play with old faithful ue3 VCD
https://youtu.be/BIpPHde5z-E
Is a good reminder:)

now this new dislexic bible I just posted could even speed up the development of the
VCD ue4/ue5 port by say a year or 3 years sliced off development?

lol if only i had a job at steam support working from home cuz I can fix almost everything I touch including the kitchen sink=still unemployed trapped on Centrelink