Pandemic 2

[Chard]

Wow, just took a look at this game and I was wondering if the people who made Pandemic 2 are behind this (or at the very least are they getting money from this). Because if they're not, this is just sick and shameless plagiarism. Turning a few options into unlockables, and adding some tacked on out of place "bubble clicking" does not make this a "new" or "original" game.

Hell, even the art is done in the same style. It's like if I were to add a new gun into counter strike, and then sell it as my new wholly original game "Strike to Counter" and charged 70 dollars for it.

UNLESS the Pandemic 2 people are behind this (and if they are I apologize) this should not be allowed on Steam.

Even if this wasn't a complete ripoff to the point where it becomes plagiarism, charging fifteen for this is ridiculous. 5 dollars tops.

Edit: And if you're reading this and haven't bought the game yet. Google "Pandemic 2" it's the virtually identical game this is based on, and it's completely free.

[GrizBe]

*Yawn*

And every single FPS is a rip off of Doom, all tennis games are a rip off of Pong and all stealth games are a rip off of 005.

Try actually bothering to play the game and you'll see there are many more improvement's then just 'bubble clicking' as you claim.

Its called 'Inspired by'.

[Chard]

There's a BIG difference between an FPS that was inspired by Doom, and meticulously recreating doom's maps complete with almost identical textures, near look alike sprites, slapping in a couple new weapons, then calling it your own game while not giving Id software any compensation.

Even if this manages to be different enough to be legal (if it is, it's barely so) you have to admit this is pretty damn sleazy.

You'd be rightly pissed if you had a new novel idea, then some sleaze bag completely rips it off, gets all the credit and makes a ton of money off of your idea.

And out of curiosity I did manage to play a bit of this game. except for the out of place "baloon popping" mechanic, it plays EXACTLY like Pandemic 2. A few altered menus do not make this a "new game" This is WELL past "inspired by" crosses past "Ripoff" and is dangerously close to "Legal action"

This is the video game equivilant of stealing a joke.

[Etherium]

This is what the gaming industry has become. You create anew title instead of the game. Look at trove and cubeworld. Heck minecraft clones are all over android store. But there is one big thing that makes all this possible. If the original developers are giving what the customer wants they wouldn't be looking at a look a like version.

Cube world vs trove. The cubeworld dev fell off the face of the earth for months on end leaving everyone who paid kickstart to wonder if they were boned. And yes they are. Thats what you get for ditching your fans.

Minecraft vs all look a likes on android store. That game has been out like what 5 years and this is all we have to show for that much time. Being new to minecraft I remember an pdate was coming out and what did we end up getting.. Bats. WTF. Six months to give us bats?? Im getting old here not younger. If someone can do a decent minecraft then so be it.


Pendemic 2 vs Plague. Pendemic compared to this game is a commodor64 ancient relic. Its not doing anyone any good by rusting away. I remember playing it. It was fun. I dont think I could stomach those graphics today though. Its clearly not being developed anymore so we should all just forget about it? Why not get some enjoyment out of it. Right it might be illegal so we cant have any of that.

I have wondered if copying games like this is legal or not. Legally it might be wrong but those examples the original creator had their fair shake and time to make a solid go of it. If someone can do it better then let them. Its not like pendemic was made 6 months ago and they are stealing sales. I don't even want to debate legal or not because its laws written with greed, power, and control in mind. Not what best for everyone.

Just leave everyone be. If enough people feel morally wrong like you do then the dev wont make money and the game never gets made. You win. You were right. If enough people do pay for it, well, then maybe it should happen. Unless you think only your opinion accounts. Or laws written by a few old farts behind closed doors means case closed. Legal or illegal doesn't equate to morally right or best thing for everyone. Were talking about the government here. Going off topic but you get my point of view on this. We can think and act for our selves. Be a sheep or not.

[Sarnith]

Since you want to talk about plagiarism... it only take a 10% alteration to make anything your own in the eyes of the law as far as trademarks and patents go. And there are more than 10% of the game altered. That is just as easily covered alone in the random even timeline. Read up before accusing and pointing fingers.

[Circurose]

Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time. So if RPG have quest does that mean it's rip-off Final Fantasy? Outlast copied Hitman because you can hide in a locker? ♥♥♥♥.

[RuffyRuffy]

Originally posted by GrizBe:

*Yawn*

And every single FPS is a rip off of Doom, all tennis games are a rip off of Pong and all stealth games are a rip off of 005.

Try actually bothering to play the game and you'll see there are many more improvement's then just 'bubble clicking' as you claim.

Its called 'Inspired by'.

I have played the game. All it adds is an upgrade system that's a bit more advanced. And pain-in-the-ass virus runs to unlock fungus.

[ᛟ carcosa ᛟ]

Originally posted by Sarnith:

Since you want to talk about plagiarism... it only take a 10% alteration to make anything your own in the eyes of the law as far as trademarks and patents go. And there are more than 10% of the game altered. That is just as easily covered alone in the random even timeline. Read up before accusing and pointing fingers.

Actually copyright law states that no set amount of the original media is allowed to be directly copied, in order to use it, it needs to be deemed as "fair usage". It’s a myth to say that if you change a work by at least 10, 20, 30% etc that you’ve created a new work of copyright or that you’ve avoided infringing someone’s copyright.

The factors used to determine whether "the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use" are:

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

Just remember it’s not a percentage or quantity but a question of quality or whether a substantial part has been copied.

Sources: http://www.copyright.gov/, http://www.copyright.org.au/, http://drawsketch.about.com/cs/resources/a/copyright_2.htm

[Landshark]

It's pretty clear, anybody who's played Pandemic would see Plague as a complete rip-off of the game. I honestly thought this was a sequel to the pandemic games until finding out it's not.

If you haven't played any of the Pandemic games, then you cannot contribute to this discussion. Go play Pandemic, then come and take a look at Plague 2. They look and play nearly identical.

[ᛟ carcosa ᛟ]

Originally posted by Landshark:

It's pretty clear, anybody who's played Pandemic would see Plague as a complete rip-off of the game. I honestly thought this was a sequel to the pandemic games until finding out it's not.

If you haven't played any of the Pandemic games, then you cannot contribute to this discussion. Go play Pandemic, then come and take a look at Plague 2. They look and play nearly identical.

Agreed.

[rpanic]

When I first saw this game I thought it was pandemic, just on steam so they could make a few bucks.

[femur stealer]

Pandemic 2 was a free game, if you think that is better then go play it and don't stay here to complain, you can't claim plagiarism if there is nothing to fight about

[Rodso]

this is just a pc version of the ios game....with a bunch of extra awesome lookng stuff also does it have the zombie virus from ios game?

[musicalfish]

Originally posted by :O:

this is just a pc version of the ios game....with a bunch of extra awesome lookng stuff also does it have the zombie virus from ios game?

It will in about 3 weeks, Evolution 3 thread says that Necroa (zombie) virus is being released in the week starting 24th March.

[Chard]

Originally posted by rpanic:

When I first saw this game I thought it was pandemic, just on steam so they could make a few bucks.

That in a nutshell is my problem with this game. Some POS is making a ton of money off of someone else's game. I would be delighted if the Pandemic people were the ones reaping the harvest from this. THEY are the ones who earned it.

And if you haven't played Pandemic, you really should before having this discussion. Plague Inc. is much more than just a "clone" I was suprised when I found out this wasn't Pandemic 2 tweaked a bit for a Steam release.

[kabukiman]

Originally posted by Chard:

Originally posted by rpanic:

When I first saw this game I thought it was pandemic, just on steam so they could make a few bucks.

That in a nutshell is my problem with this game. Some POS is making a ton of money off of someone else's game. I would be delighted if the Pandemic people were the ones reaping the harvest from this. THEY are the ones who earned it.

And if you haven't played Pandemic, you really should before having this discussion. Plague Inc. is much more than just a "clone" I was suprised when I found out this wasn't Pandemic 2 tweaked a bit for a Steam release.

I don't see your problem cause if there are any rights violated, the makers of Pandemic 2 will easily be able to settle that in court. You don't know if and how any rights were violated, neither do I, so it's absolutely out of your responsibility to start a crusade here.

You know - eg. Fallout 1 and 2 were made by Black Isle. Rights were sold and now Bethesda is making the games - no infringement there. Furthermore - Wasteland, a game with same setting/theme was there first, are the Fallout games also "clones" in your opinion then?

Basically - if ranting in a forum is all you're about that's pretty cheap. Contact the programmers of Pandemic 2 about your suspicions and do something sensible instead of these irrelevant posts.