The Typing of The Dead: Overkill

The Typing of The Dead: Overkill

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Sight Dec 17, 2013 @ 7:29pm
A very poor game indeed
This is in no way a proper sequel to the original TOTD;
I feel outraged, ripped off and insulted that this precedes the 1999 epic, that this can be associated with the all time great HOTD, it's just maddening.
This game has incredibly low performance, a nearly non-existant lack of configuration and a set of extremely irritating 'features', them being:


-Input Lag; It's quite pathetic that a game that nearly solely relies on the keyboard as an input mechanism manages to have lag on it, gratz.

-Low Performance; My machine's specs comfortably pass the recomended requirements, and still this game runs at 20fps, even with lowered resolution and post processing turned off.

-Hit-Animations on Zombies; In the original TOTD hits felt more realistic and less superficial. Not sure if it's the low performance teamed up with the above-mentioned input lag, but animations just feel wrong.

- Lack of Options; It makes me laugh that there are still games being released with little to no video options available. Unless of course this a nostalgic feature relegating back to the 20th century? If that is the case, kudos, mission accomplished.

-Poor StoryTelling; I don't even care about the scenario that much, but TOTD was very original when it came to it's cheesyness, Overkill is just sad. A bunch of old and un-original references and that's all.

-The Film Grain; It's so bad it deserves a bulletpoint of it's own, that and the motion blur. It's so overdone it's not even funny.

-Loading Times; How is it that such a simple game manages to take up over 7GB of disk space and have such slow loading screens? And such poor ones at thatl, I can never tell, what is the supposed loading screen? The intermission one or the black one with the animated circled zombie? There's 2 of them? Why? This game is so bad that even loading it's ♥♥♥♥tyness is slow.



I have an honest question to the Devs:
Did you play this game before releasing it?
Did you enjoy playing it?
How did it ever cross your minds that this standing as it is today could even be considered Alpha-ready?
This game isn't even arcade-worthy.

It seems to me you just opened up a Video Games For Dummies guide, sifted through the keypoints and started boarding them up hoping that something would come out of it.
Guess what, it did not.


And lastly let me just say that it is RIDICULOUS that a 2013 game can be outmatched on several points by it's predecessor made in the year NINETEEN NINETY NINE, that's the 20th century, that was the last millenium.

Be ashamed Modern Dream, be very ashamed.
Last edited by Sight; Dec 17, 2013 @ 7:32pm
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Gambit Dec 17, 2013 @ 8:00pm 
This game came out in 2009 on the Wii, and this is a port. If you want to point fingers point them at Kuju Entertainment.
Vaiden Dec 17, 2013 @ 8:04pm 
Dear OP,

Get over yourself.

Sincerely,
The Rest of the Internet
Revenant Dec 17, 2013 @ 9:57pm 
Originally posted by Vaiden:
Dear OP,

Get over yourself.

Sincerely,
The Rest of the Internet

No, you don't speak for the rest of us.

I can appreciate someone having issues with a product and giving reasons why.

You should get over yourself.
Florence Dec 17, 2013 @ 11:07pm 
Didn't encounter any of the problems OP listed.

How about you list your system specs?
Punchy Dec 17, 2013 @ 11:17pm 
Originally posted by Vaiden:
Dear OP,

Get over yourself.

Sincerely,
The Rest of the Internet

Seriously, this. Most of your points are blatantly untrue. Get a better computer and shut up.
Goldenkitten Dec 18, 2013 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by Succinct And Punchy:
Originally posted by Vaiden:
Dear OP,

Get over yourself.

Sincerely,
The Rest of the Internet

Seriously, this. Most of your points are blatantly untrue. Get a better computer and shut up.

Indeed, pretty much everything the OP lists is subjective, or just lies. The only point I can understand is the film grain. It doesn't personally bug me but I can see how it would some folks, it's hardly game breaking though. Other than that there are a lack of video options but being a port of an older Wii game I wouldn't exactly expect the full range we find in games built from the ground-up for PC. If you came to this game for some super, awesome, amazing graphical showdown of the year though you clearly didn't do any research and have nobody but yourself to blame, beyond simply being in the wrong damn place.

Everything else is either pure lies or simply "not getting it". The aesthetic design and by extension the way the models move, the story structure, etc were all very concious decisions on the developers part. If the grunge/b-movie/grindhouse attempt isn't your thing then so be it but that doesn't make it some horrid abomination. It makes it something not to your tastes.

I don't mind people giving negative reviews/opinions of a game. Everyone's got their own opinion of what constitutes an enjoyable experience. But painting an image of a broken/buggy game because you didn't approve of the method of potrayal is a different matter (in this case the grind house, which seems to be the underlying complaint for most of your post).
Punchy Dec 18, 2013 @ 12:49am 
Originally posted by Goldenkitten:
Originally posted by Succinct And Punchy:

Seriously, this. Most of your points are blatantly untrue. Get a better computer and shut up.

Indeed, pretty much everything the OP lists is subjective, or just lies.

Quite.

Input Lag, Poor Performance and Long Loading Times are stuff I'm all gonna put down to OP's computer being rubbish, because none of these are true in any capacity.

No Video Options, it's a port of a Wii game from 2009. No ♥♥♥♥ you can't twiddle with the settings much.

Hit-Animations on Zombies, you're trying to explain a greivance with a complex concept like body language and not saying anything besides "it feels wrong". I don't agree, but you've given so little to go on that I can't criticise it.

Poor Storytelling and Film Grain, you've kinda missed the point of the grindhouse aesthetic something fierce haven't you? I don't like saying this, but I really think you just don't "get" what the game is going for with these.
Last edited by Punchy; Dec 18, 2013 @ 12:50am
Kommando Dec 18, 2013 @ 5:38am 
The hit detection does kinda suck but the film grain is a homage to the old grind house movies from the 70's and 80's. I personally like that as I love grind house and exploitation films. The hit animations suck as I have seen zombies get stuck on other zombies and causes weird animations. The Wii version was much better IMHO. I noticed several things missing from this version that the Wii has.
WelvynZPorter Dec 18, 2013 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by Vaiden:
Dear OP,

Get over yourself.

Sincerely,
The Rest of the Internet

+1

P.s. Get a better computer. Watch some grindhouse movies. Gain new respect towards this game.
Last edited by WelvynZPorter; Dec 18, 2013 @ 9:41am
Sclurp Dec 18, 2013 @ 10:23am 
I've not experienced any lag and my PC isn't even all that.

I've been enjoying the game so far and its grindhouse humour. I did contemplate getting the original but with the dictionary DLC - I went for this instead. I am trying to convince my friend to get it so we can play together online too.

For £7 I do not feel ripped off

:)
Sight Dec 18, 2013 @ 12:47pm 
I understand grindhouse humour and class B movies's style just fine, and with that in mind there's two ways to go about it, the right way, and the wrong way.

Games that have done it right include Carmageddon, Postal, Manhunt, more recently you have Lollipop Chainsaw. It's like I said, there's art in cheesyness, originality, and Overkill's was made by someone who has absolutely no tact for this sort of thing. They didn't bring anything new to the pool, they just re-use other game's/film's content. The fact that some of way actually enjoyed only tells me you have extremely low standards for what you consider funny, or maybe you're the one who doesn't understand class B style at all.

It's not like Ihad set my mind to hating this, I came into this game with huge expectations, I always loved TOTD and typing games of the sort, I was thrilled when I saw it at a 50% off sale. So this is not just a random rant from some frustrated kid who simply can't get the game to play, this is a complaint by someone who loved the series and feels this is an insult to House of the Dead.

I have since played this game on a fair superior computer than mine, and indeed fps skyrocketed, but everything else was still there. Input Lag, poor animations, etc...
Regarding the input lag, I find it really odd that some people don't notice, I've reached the conclusion that maybe you don't type fast enough to notice it. If you're slamming one key at a time whilst looking at your keyboard grandma-style I recon the game looks pretty consistent to you.
And yes my computer isn't a raging machine when it comes to specs, but like I said it surpasses recommended requirements just fine, and if I have to own a 2000$ machine to have this game run smoothly all it tells me is that either the official requirements are false, or this game is almost as badly optimized as ARMA II. I'm going with the second one.

And finally regarding the fact that this is a port; Yes ports always have poor performance when compared to native games, but don't you find that that's awfully convenient for the Devs?
"Wtf, this game runs like crap."
"It's a Port."
"Ah, then it's fine. Totally acceptable to give them my money now, even though it's a lousy game."
It's disgusting that we have been conformed to allow developers this much liberty when it comes to setting a low standard of quality hiding behind that huge PORT sticker. What does it matter that this is Port? Is it not a game all the same? Why does this have to be evaluated with that in mind?
If you had bothered with your research you'd have learned that this game went through two teams of development, Blitz Games Studios being the first one, which severelly cripples the game, as seen with Duke Nukem, Blitz even tried releasing this game under a different license, which perhaps could mean they didn't consider this a proper sequel, or at least not in a strong enough position to bear the HoTD name. So much for the SEGA seal of quality.
Maybe they're the ones to really blame in all this, for allowing all this ♥♥♥♥ storm to have to came to pass. They've really let themselves go in these last years trying to grab on to anything to make them look still like a big videogame company.
SEGA, maybe it's time you died already.
WelvynZPorter Dec 18, 2013 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Sight:
I understand grindhouse humour and class B movies's style just fine, and with that in mind there's two ways to go about it, the right way, and the wrong way.

Games that have done it right include Carmageddon, Postal, Manhunt, more recently you have Lollipop Chainsaw. It's like I said, there's art in cheesyness, originality, and Overkill's was made by someone who has absolutely no tact for this sort of thing. They didn't bring anything new to the pool, they just re-use other game's/film's content. The fact that some of way actually enjoyed only tells me you have extremely low standards for what you consider funny, or maybe you're the one who doesn't understand class B style at all.

It's not like Ihad set my mind to hating this, I came into this game with huge expectations, I always loved TOTD and typing games of the sort, I was thrilled when I saw it at a 50% off sale. So this is not just a random rant from some frustrated kid who simply can't get the game to play, this is a complaint by someone who loved the series and feels this is an insult to House of the Dead.

I have since played this game on a fair superior computer than mine, and indeed fps skyrocketed, but everything else was still there. Input Lag, poor animations, etc...
Regarding the input lag, I find it really odd that some people don't notice, I've reached the conclusion that maybe you don't type fast enough to notice it. If you're slamming one key at a time whilst looking at your keyboard grandma-style I recon the game looks pretty consistent to you.
And yes my computer isn't a raging machine when it comes to specs, but like I said it surpasses recommended requirements just fine, and if I have to own a 2000$ machine to have this game run smoothly all it tells me is that either the official requirements are false, or this game is almost as badly optimized as ARMA II. I'm going with the second one.

And finally regarding the fact that this is a port; Yes ports always have poor performance when compared to native games, but don't you find that that's awfully convenient for the Devs?
"Wtf, this game runs like crap."
"It's a Port."
"Ah, then it's fine. Totally acceptable to give them my money now, even though it's a lousy game."
It's disgusting that we have been conformed to allow developers this much liberty when it comes to setting a low standard of quality hiding behind that huge PORT sticker. What does it matter that this is Port? Is it not a game all the same? Why does this have to be evaluated with that in mind?
If you had bothered with your research you'd have learned that this game went through two teams of development, Blitz Games Studios being the first one, which severelly cripples the game, as seen with Duke Nukem, Blitz even tried releasing this game under a different license, which perhaps could mean they didn't consider this a proper sequel, or at least not in a strong enough position to bear the HoTD name. So much for the SEGA seal of quality.
Maybe they're the ones to really blame in all this, for allowing all this ♥♥♥♥ storm to have to came to pass. They've really let themselves go in these last years trying to grab on to anything to make them look still like a big videogame company.
SEGA, maybe it's time you died already.

You sound soooo butt-hurt.
What did this game ever do to you? lmfao
Last edited by WelvynZPorter; Dec 18, 2013 @ 2:28pm
Vaiden Dec 18, 2013 @ 2:29pm 
You're allowed your opinion, but I'm enjoying the hell out of this. It may be a port, but I've never played any of the TOTD games or the HOTD games, so this to me is just silly, cheeky, and hilarious. I think people need to stop treating gaming like serious business. If you don't like it, don't play it, don't buy it. Problem solved.
Goldenkitten Dec 19, 2013 @ 1:14am 
So just now thought to look and I feel I’ve got to point out that OP has less than an hour logged in the game. In other words they probably spent half as long as they’ve played the game writing these angry posts, and maybe longer than that sitting there being indignant about it. I’m not going to call troll, since they seem genuinely angry. But it does sort of paint ones concerns in a half-baked light when you seem to be putting more effort into ranting in the forums than attempting to get more than a couple words into the actual game itself.

I’m not going to argue about the “lag” since at the end of the day computers can be weird and maybe someone really is having problems. Though most people don’t seem to agree. But I will note that judging things like the quality of the story or whether it’s a reasonable attempt at the grindhouse aesthetic sort of falls on deaf ears when you haven’t even gotten to the third level.
Sight Dec 19, 2013 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by Goldenkitten:
I can't really play it, can I? Since it runs so horribly.
I did play a bit more on my friend's computer, and I've seen the intro cinematics to most of the levels. As well as some gameplay on gaming rigs to check if my pc was the problem, the scenario is the same.
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