MASSIVE CHALICE

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Croaker Dec 6, 2014 @ 8:55am
Cradle Farming and Possible Solution
In my recent game after losing twice to Bulwarks, right after getting a second keep I immediately rushed refined armor for both Caberjacks and Alchemists. So now I have two very durable classes facing off against the Cradles with seeds. The seeds do barely any damage and I can kill them as they are spawned. They still give 60 exp, a small amount but I've practically been able to just keep killing them consistently and if the Cradle uses an explosion bomb move I can heal the damage away.

One very simple idea could be to have the Seeds made by the Cradle be called Imperfect Seeds or Flawed Seeds, doesn't matter. They could even have inverted colors too, with a blue body and orange(?) head. These seeds act like normal seeds in every way except they give less exp or don't give any exp at all. This would make fighting Cradles an even more horrible slog as your heroes don't even get that little bit of experience for killing their spawn.

P.S.
If you go the Flawed Seeds route, perhaps giving the Cradles drop more experience when killed could also help balance it.

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Arkus Dec 6, 2014 @ 2:17pm 
sorry for budging in , do you have any other tips against bullwarks? because i had 3 teams of veterans decimated , im kinda desperate here. i mean yes an enemy like that seems cool at first but i kinda bond with many of my heroes and seeing them become pixie dust after a swarm of bulwarks makes me kinda hit my head on the wall
Croaker Dec 6, 2014 @ 8:36pm 
Immediately, I mean right after you get your second keep, invest in refined armor for Caberjacks. The Bulwarks deal a lot of damage yes, but do not have any penetration. The Caberjack armor is the heaviest of them all, so they deal 1 damage from then on out afterwards. The Alchemist refined is also reccommended if you are still suffering bad losses.

On the level of tactics to use, I recommend focusing on penning down a single Bulwark at a time, usually by letting a hunter double shoot it then having a Caber stun it with a knockback after it shells up to keep it from firing the next turn. It should be low enough for a single caber or hunter hit to kill. Try to knock multiple Bulwarks into each other with your knockback too if you face multiple.
Arkus Dec 7, 2014 @ 10:40am 
thank you so much , this will help me prevail in battle, also do you have a favourite team composition? like 2 hunters 1 alchemist etc
Kruztee Dec 7, 2014 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by MajorMurray:
In my recent game after losing twice to Bulwarks, right after getting a second keep I immediately rushed refined armor for both Caberjacks and Alchemists. So now I have two very durable classes facing off against the Cradles with seeds. The seeds do barely any damage and I can kill them as they are spawned. They still give 60 exp, a small amount but I've practically been able to just keep killing them consistently and if the Cradle uses an explosion bomb move I can heal the damage away.

One very simple idea could be to have the Seeds made by the Cradle be called Imperfect Seeds or Flawed Seeds, doesn't matter. They could even have inverted colors too, with a blue body and orange(?) head. These seeds act like normal seeds in every way except they give less exp or don't give any exp at all. This would make fighting Cradles an even more horrible slog as your heroes don't even get that little bit of experience for killing their spawn.

P.S.
If you go the Flawed Seeds route, perhaps giving the Cradles drop more experience when killed could also help balance it.

Cradles are dangerous not in themselves, but the fact that the player generally has to chase them down, potentially getting aggro on more Cadence in the process. Once you're down to one cradle, or have it cornered somewhere, then yeah, farming the spawn becomes pretty cheesy.

I like your idea of less exp or perhaps even none for cradle spawn.
KestrelPi Dec 9, 2014 @ 9:22am 
Yeah, I think maybe the easiest way to fix this is to give reduced/0 XP for cradle spawned seeds. Mind you, it must be pretty boring standing there XP farming seeds. So the other option might be just to say if someone really wants to play the game that way, let 'em. I think most people will just get on with it.
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Date Posted: Dec 6, 2014 @ 8:55am
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