Am I the only one who finds poison incredibly weak?

[Goynus™]

Even using builds where I get the poison dart towers for 5 gold a piece it still isn't worth getting. I do much more damage with basic towers or cannon towers. Same with the 1x2 towers that spill poison, the only time those seem good aswell is paired with the 10% damage boost perk and even then you should only really have like one in your maze to get it. Maybe I'm playing wrong? IDK.

A lot of the towers seem weak imo though in general, like the electric towers and the drone seem not super great either. Not super weak like the poison stuff but just underwhelming.

Almost every build I do it seems like you get far better success just running cannon earthquake, with a few ice missile launchers. Any tips? Should I setup my maze a certain way to better utilize the other towers?

[redhongkong]

i also wanna know poison ticking dmg buildup by hit frequency or by high poison dmg amount

[Zyro]

i use poison often. relics help too.
target nearby; this ensures there is poison on all targets.
the poison shower tower takes quick action to weak enemies. have multiple in a row combined with slowed down enemies and it'll change your mind

[John Marston]

Decimate Tower with cloud upgrade on first, with damage upgrade on highest HP;
Dart tower on nearest with fire rate upgrade;
at least 1 (preferably more) poison related relic (like the one that chills poisoned foes, or the crit chance one) and you can beat both maps on normal with sacred flame
Heroic is a different can of worms.

Electric towers are mid imo, unless you, again, have a relic or two to go with them.
But I really like the drone.

[orinn000]

Poison seems weak because it doesn't get its full damage on weak enemies, and by the time we see strong enemies with a lot of HP, they're getting bombarded and have so much damage on them, it's hard to see the poison.

I use poison mostly as setup, since there are so many poison relics, it's always useful with your loadout. I try to set up the dart towers as +Range +speed, not for the damage but for the effect itself to trigger the relics. The Decimate tower is actually pretty strong, and the 3x1 is useful if you build around it, but I usually change out half of my 3x1s for the lava version.

[Doniazade]

The sprinkler upgrade is very strong with the poison relics, especially the frost venom and the one that raised the crit multi to 200%. It also does good damage against trash, although aoe is not hard to come by in this game.

Dart tower is okay although not my top choice for 1x1, decimate loses out to sniper usually because of the size although it's also decent.

The fire venom seems like a downgrade to me, only getting 25% of the value in exchange for it turning into aoe is a bad deal, again aoe is easy to solve. Poison stacks indefinitely but deals its damage enough that it will expire quickly so I don't see why you would throw all that damage away.

No idea how the electricity venom works, if it increases total damage it's busted but if it doesn't is kind of meh, just reduces wasted damage against monsters who will die from poison.

Crit venom is crazy good with arcane and the different crit relics.

[shoobers]

The 1x1 poison tower does 5 damage per shot. Compare that to the dice tower and basic tower. Are you SURE that the poison tower is weak? Just have them target high hp and use other methods to target the low hp units, such as the 3x1 tower. I have done poison only builds and been very happy with the results.

[narf03]

used them on the 1st map, last level, hydra boss, not too bad. poison need time to take effect. consider use them when enemy far away, usually i use them to target the most hp enemy unit.

[Doc Savage]

Poison rocks. The towers, not the band. (sorry haters, they were posers...nice hair...but nah, not for me.)

Seriously. That curtain is a mess waiting to happen. Spike it on a couple modifiers and nothing medium and under lives long.

Add the spray and holy heck that thing can wipe out a ton.

I love making little patches of AOE with 20 little poison cannons. On a leg up front you can drain away a ton of energy from the incoming. One of the best starting batteries you can have.

I don't see it, sorry.

Cheers..!

[Doniazade]

Originally posted by shoobers:

The 1x1 poison tower does 5 damage per shot. Compare that to the dice tower and basic tower. Are you SURE that the poison tower is weak? Just have them target high hp and use other methods to target the low hp units, such as the 3x1 tower. I have done poison only builds and been very happy with the results.

It's strong compared to those but those are the weakest ones, arcane icicle and flamethrower are all stronger in my opinion, although it depends on the layout (especially with flamethrower) and your relics. With golden roulette (the best starting relic) very cheap towers are disfavored because you can spam towers even more and run out of good spots, making flamethrower and icicle more attractive.

[SmokinC]

I just started yesterday to play. Poison seems very strong to me. I had great comination with the relicts for posion and fire. I used the 1x3 poison tower one with the posion uppgrade and afther this one more with the fire upgrade, which changes poison to instand fire dmg. Also I had darts wich also make poison dmg. later i also placed 2x2 and 3x3 towers. I finished the first map in normal mode onmy 3 run

[Knight E Night]

the 3x3 poison cannon is what makes poison very very strong it makes it to where if the poison is more then there max hp instead of ticking it just instantly kills them and does huge aoe poison is very very good but you need to get the poison cannon to make it strong

[Hillhome]

It can be very strong the relics really help there. Speaking of Relics after 40 hours I finally got the one that makes all the dice towers just a random element and that was great.

My favorite poison relic though is that poison causes the chill effect. Using the poison sprinkler -> upgrade it to cloud effect = chill cloud. It's very helpful IMO to have any chill effects going and that's a good way to have a reliably placed one w/out relying on the frost tower. Doesn't exactly combo then with any poison + fire or poison + electric relics just keep in mind being they are doing chill element. But then it does open up all the frost/chill related ones.

[Doc Savage]

I just put two or three or ten in a row... If some of those stay poison, I get poison.

I also get fire, ice and a cold shoulder.

I love that thing, but the frost cloud is something I now have to try. Can't believe it never occurred to me... ?B)

Cheers..!

[Neomare]

Originally posted by Goynus™:

Even using builds where I get the poison dart towers for 5 gold a piece it still isn't worth getting. I do much more damage with basic towers or cannon towers. Same with the 1x2 towers that spill poison, the only time those seem good aswell is paired with the 10% damage boost perk and even then you should only really have like one in your maze to get it. Maybe I'm playing wrong? IDK.

A lot of the towers seem weak imo though in general, like the electric towers and the drone seem not super great either. Not super weak like the poison stuff but just underwhelming.

Almost every build I do it seems like you get far better success just running cannon earthquake, with a few ice missile launchers. Any tips? Should I setup my maze a certain way to better utilize the other towers?

Well look at their numbers and you will see they are stronger than basic towers. Their problem is that they tend to overpoison things if you do not place them properly.

Just have an entrance far away from everything else and have them target the least progress ( or highest HP ) so they do not overpoison things. If you do it like that they should easily outperform the basic towers.

Good luck!

[manthief]

1x3 poison tower technically has ridiculous DPS (25 damage per hit with 5 hits per second = 125) but on its own it's underwhelming because enemies pass through it in much less than a second. As others have said sprinkler helps, but the real power comes from its synergy with stun. Boulder, Hammer, Earthquake, or any tower with the stun card power-up can trap enemies inside of the poison tower's range for much longer, which absolutely melts their health.