What is the truth?

[Adam__86]

Is the game good? Are the reported numbers true? Are people not playing? Is the Skyrim v Avowed video accurate? It seems this game has the most conflicting feedback for a long time

[easy_going]

lmao, like any other previous conflicting game. xD

Me, I'm just waiting for patches so I can play the game for what it is. Obsidian screwed up those elements of the game they were most famous of: good writing, interesting quests and NPCs. Obsidian should have nailed those, especially that one of the selling points of Avowed was supposed to be quality over quantity. Turned out to be BS mixed with false advertisement. At this point I'd simply like them to fix the technical bugs and move on to making The Outer Worlds 2

[SaD-82]

The truth is that all those given feedbacks are all over the place.
It ranges from bad to good (with the most part calling it average/mediocre).
You don't need to know who is right in this (because everyone is) - just the fact that it's this all over the place should tell you all about the problems this game has.
A good game doesn't need to be defended - well, Avowed has some pretty aggressive defenders.

[DragonDai (Uey)]

It is good. It's very good. The player numbers are irrelevant as many people are playing on console and Gamepass. The game has sold well for Microsoft to greenlight DLC and a sequel already.

The Skrim vs Avowed video is garbage. It is comparing apples to oranges. Would you compare Skyrim to Diablo or Final Fantasy 16? Of course not, cause while they're all RPGs, they're different kinds of RPGs. Same with Avowed. It isn't Skyrim. It isn't trying to be Skyrim. The devs have point blank said they were not trying to make Avowed be the next Skyrim. It's a fast paced action RPG with a lot of exploration. It is not a virtual world or an immersive sim RPG (like Skyrim is).

At the end of the day, if you want an RPG where you can get thrown in jail for stealing or where the NPCs have schedules or where you can put a bucket on someone's head, this game isn't what you're looking for. Go play KCD2 or something.

If, on the other hand, you want a game with great combat (WAY better than Skyrim or basically any other first person melee game) and great exploration, this IS the game you're looking for.

Regardless, just go get a month of Gamepass and try it for yourself if you're really on the fence. Worst case scenario is you hate it and you end up playing other Gamepass games for the rest of the month.

[Hy.dio-.ten.]

Hola ,sinceramente me he pasado el juego en gamepass , y es super recomendable , la historia de 10. rejugable totalmente con distintas mecanicas y diferentes finales, El juego va fluido al maximo sin problemas. teniendo un i9900k 32 gb y una 3070 rtx. Espero un dlc o expansion de este juegazo sinceramente! jaja pd. me lo he pasado en unas 42 horas

[easy_going]

Originally posted by SaD-82:

The truth is that all those given feedbacks are all over the place.
It ranges from bad to good (with the most part calling it average/mediocre).
You don't need to know who is right in this (because everyone is) - just the fact that it's this all over the place should tell you all about the problems this game has.
A good game doesn't need to be defended - well, Avowed has some pretty aggressive defenders.

I wonder how it is that the most flawed games always attract the most psycho-fans.

[Diomed]

Avowed is an excellent game. Most of the hate is political and not based on the reality of what the game is.

[tmaddox]

Originally posted by Adam__86:

Is the game good? Are the reported numbers true? Are people not playing? Is the Skyrim v Avowed video accurate? It seems this game has the most conflicting feedback for a long time

I can only answer for myself.

Is the game good? Yes, I am enjoying my time with it and have had no issues

Are the reported numbers true? Whose numbers. Steam numbers are accurate but not the whole story thanks to game pass and console purchases.

Is the Skyrim v Avowed video accurate? I have not watched these because it seems like a silly comparison. Avowed is not trying to be Skyrim 2025.

As for conflicting information.. well some people are going to enjoy the game and some won't. Despite the naysayers the game is sitting at mostly positive on Steam (77%). It has an 80 critic and 6.9 user rating on Metacritic. It has an 81 top critic average on Opencritic and an 80 user rating on that site. It has a 3.5 out of 5 user rating on Xbox.

Those numbers are all pretty consistent. So I would say that it is not nearly as bad as the naysayers here would want you to believe nor is as brilliant as others want to claim.

I find it a fun, solid game and I have enjoyed all my time with it so far.

[Marcos_DS]

I played it a bit on gamepass (2 weeks for 1€, so why not?). Played about 50% (first two big open world areas) and its OK, but not great or very good. Maybe 6 or 6.5/10. Certainly not worth 70€, but i might play it to completion when my backlog is clear.

I really liked the Pillars of Eternity games (same setting & dev), and absolutely didn't enjoy how dumbed down skill, class and loot systems are compared to them. No equipment for companions, just some basic stuff for the main character and due to the upgrade system, getting a variety of different equipment is strongly discouraged (else you fall back fast on upgrade quality). Combat wasn't bad for a first person game & it has some interesting boss fights, but nowhere near the tactical challenge of previous games on max difficulty.

The vertical discovery of the world with parcour & tons of hidden loot everywhere was enjoyable - the loot itself less so, reason see above.

The NPCs were acting like in the old Pillars games: Mostly static, no reactions to stealing or anything you do outside of dialogue. But honestly i didn't expect that so it wasn't as problematic for me as for someone that just played KCD2 or BG3. The NPCs & companions were less memorable than the best from previous games like Eder or Grieving Mother, so reducing their number unfortunately didn't improve the quality. Still ok, just not great.

Honestly it just feels like a downgrade to me - lore, world and story is good but the pervious games were superior imo.

Not a bad game, and you can see where the money went with all dialogues fully spoken & varied 3d graphics. But it has lost what made the previous games great, and didn't gain enough to make up for it.

[DaveyGravy]

its a 6/10 game is good but its not amazing or out of this world. an amazing and one of the kind game to me is mass effect 1-3.

[Kuro's Wolf]

It's definitely worth your time and a fun romp throughout. If you don't compare it to other games and focus on what it is - a very curated experience - you might find its really quite solid. I'm just enjoying living out my mage power fantasy calling lightning from the heavens and burning everything at the moment!

[stax]

I think it is more comparable to Dishonored or Mass Effect than Skyrim. The zones are big, but not completely open world.

[Blackcompany]

Are you a pure game play player? Can you have fun with even a solidly mediocre game, as long as the interactive parts are numerous and fun? If so, grab this; combat is cool as hell.

But if you need immersion, verisimilitude...a sense of place? If you want an RPG to give you a world to inhabit, and a captivating story? Hard. Pass.

The writing here is aggressively mediocre at its BEST moments. And its worst? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, it's as if someone let their 6 year old right a 'short story with a strong moral.'

That is the honest truth. Fun game play mired in a game that ranges from utter mediocrity at its BEST moments, to absolutely laugh out loud tripe at its worst. It's like someone put the combat from, say, RAGE or DOOM, into Starfield.

[Blackcompany]

Originally posted by Diomed:

Avowed is an excellent game. Most of the hate is political and not based on the reality of what the game is.

Except this isn't even remotely true.

This has been a tired bunch of crap with games lately. Every new game that comes out, the forums are mysteriously flooded with these artificial anti-woke posts. That strangely almost all go away the very moment another big budget game releases.

Then, when someone criticizes the game, you get crap like this.

The game is aggressively mid. Writing is laughably bad. The world building is nonsensical when it is present at all. NPCs are literally cardboard cutouts who just stand around like Borderlands characters all day. The combat and parkour are literally the only GOOD things about this game.

[Quacksalber]

I really like this game. I played and loved the two previous ones, yet I did not pick this up expecting it to be like them or Skyrim. I'm also old enough to have played free ascii games made in the 80's that allowed you to do lots of stuff no games have since, so I'm not going to be daft and start comparing this to some random other game and complaining I can't do stuff in it I could in others.

So, back to the point, if you go into this game expecting a fun action rpg, that concentrates on what it actually is and doesn't bog you down with mini games, crafting, mining, survival mechanics, resource management, building, etc, at the same time as offering a very versatile combat system that doesn't overwhelm with massive skill trees, you will probably like this game.

There is tons to explore and discover, and it's worth paying attention to what's going on, who you talk to and what decisions you make. Take your time to enjoy it instead of rushing through and missing most of it.

[Plagen]

I enjoyed the gameplay and the story, at least how I had the game's story play out. I stopped playing after I beat the game, but I do that with every single RPG I play and beat. Once I beat it, I don't play it again until a bunch of mods come out for it.