Avowed
Mirag3 Mar 5 @ 3:02am
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What reviewers do not tell you.
Cooking - absolutely no use/not needed.
Enchanting - a 1 time use to change 5% of a value.
Crafting - Changing the color of an item.
Exploring - pointless since you get companion to reveal locations of everything.
Loot - tons of mats that have no use in the game, tons of unique items that are basically useless there are 3 armors and 3 weapons that are obtainable 5 hours before point of no return that are actually good other items seems like the same items with different numbers on them.
This all screams like an unfinished game and the reason why i hold of from buying the game. Btw Im an extreme fan of Pillars but this aint even close to the quality of PoE 1.

Is there a planned dlc for the game or should i just skip it entirely.
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I don't know how someone can claim that exploration is useless. Map design is one of Avowed's strongest suits, as it's very fun to explore its well crafted locations with lots of verticality; rewarding as well (there are tons of unique items hidden in the wilderness).

And all items can be upgraded, including unique weapons and armor.
AA Mar 5 @ 2:27pm 
Cooking is actually necessary for when you run out of potions. So is exploration because a lot of stuff. useful and otherwise, is tucked away in remote or high-altitude places. Not sure how Mirag3 came to all these conclusions if he didn't buy the game, but the fact that he does't know enough about it is in the comment about "useless loot." There is no "useless loot" in the game. There are ways to put loot to use. Those who played the game would know that.
Last edited by AA; Mar 5 @ 2:28pm
Originally posted by Inokis:
You opinion is only specific yo you.

Cooking is a boon and very useful so potions arent wasted. Its easier to get 100 stew than it is 20 potions.

You are sure?
I play on Path of Damnation (highest Dificulty) have no need for buy any potion or need to cooking something to heal me.
You found more as enoth food and poitions as loot, that there is no need to craft food to heal you or pay gold to buy a potion.

Only thing what i have crafted with cooking was this food that gives you +6 to all Attributes in Dialoges and the brew that revive all fallen companions and reset second wind cooldown.

The rest is only nice to have and not really needed.
But overall that is a point where OP is not right, cooking isnt completly usless, but no nearly so usfull as it shoud be, just at the highest level of difficulty.

Originally posted by Inokis:
Every area has multiple uniques for every build. The upgrade items go in tiers based on the type of item. Since there are a multitude of builds and items there are many types of resources to support any combination. Your opinion is inaccurate.

Its not completly untruth what the OP wrotes about unique items.
Its not really a "you must have it" need for unique armor and weapons to the point where you get in the Garden unique endgame gear, even at the highest dificulty.
You can easy play nearly the complete game if you grab any standard weapon and armor from prologe and upgrade them with mats to superb quality.

The effects of unique items more a "nice to have" as a "need to have" in Avowed.
Last edited by Nightslaver; Mar 5 @ 2:55pm
Mirag3 Mar 5 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by AA:
Cooking is actually necessary for when you run out of potions. So is exploration because a lot of stuff. useful and otherwise, is tucked away in remote or high-altitude places. Not sure how Mirag3 came to all these conclusions if he didn't buy the game, but the fact that he does't know enough about it is in the comment about "useless loot." There is no "useless loot" in the game. There are ways to put loot to use. Those who played the game would know that.
never ran out of potions lol. I played the game on my friends account during the last 2 acts i wanted to buy the game but only if they are going to release a dlc/expansion to fix these issues otherwise i would rather just sail the seas because it seems to me the game is not finished or just having systems so they pretend they are an RPG game and not a Shooter.

Also please explain to me how there is no useless loot. Its seems to me like you actually never played the game. 99% of the items are useless in the game only 3 armors are good in the game only bows/axes/2 hand swords and books are Good in the game, Only stat and crit based accessories are good. TONS of crafting mats and nothing to craft or enchant. Im talking from the view point of a person who played on PoTD. On normal everything is viable but on POTD you must min max.
Originally posted by Mirag3:
Originally posted by AA:
Cooking is actually necessary for when you run out of potions. So is exploration because a lot of stuff. useful and otherwise, is tucked away in remote or high-altitude places. Not sure how Mirag3 came to all these conclusions if he didn't buy the game, but the fact that he does't know enough about it is in the comment about "useless loot." There is no "useless loot" in the game. There are ways to put loot to use. Those who played the game would know that.
never ran out of potions lol. I played the game on my friends account during the last 2 acts i wanted to buy the game but only if they are going to release a dlc/expansion to fix these issues otherwise i would rather just sail the seas because it seems to me the game is not finished or just having systems so they pretend they are an RPG game and not a Shooter.

Also please explain to me how there is no useless loot. Its seems to me like you actually never played the game. 99% of the items are useless in the game only 3 armors are good in the game only bows/axes/2 hand swords and books are Good in the game, Only stat and crit based accessories are good. TONS of crafting mats and nothing to craft or enchant. Im talking from the view point of a person who played on PoTD. On normal everything is viable but on POTD you must min max.
Guns are actually extremely op with the ability to dual wield and 75% time slow from the Ranger tree. Bows are extremely weak by comparison.
None of this is true.
Mirag3 Mar 5 @ 5:17pm 
Originally posted by TruePandaKnight:
Originally posted by Mirag3:
never ran out of potions lol. I played the game on my friends account during the last 2 acts i wanted to buy the game but only if they are going to release a dlc/expansion to fix these issues otherwise i would rather just sail the seas because it seems to me the game is not finished or just having systems so they pretend they are an RPG game and not a Shooter.

Also please explain to me how there is no useless loot. Its seems to me like you actually never played the game. 99% of the items are useless in the game only 3 armors are good in the game only bows/axes/2 hand swords and books are Good in the game, Only stat and crit based accessories are good. TONS of crafting mats and nothing to craft or enchant. Im talking from the view point of a person who played on PoTD. On normal everything is viable but on POTD you must min max.
Guns are actually extremely op with the ability to dual wield and 75% time slow from the Ranger tree. Bows are extremely weak by comparison.
They are not OP they do not do even half of the damage of a 2 handed swords can do the reload time kills your DPS and survival in closed areas, but hey if you actually understand the mechanics of the game you would see that, guns and muskets are on the bottom of the DPS list. Bows do GOOD damage but still not as good as melee weapons.
Mirag3 Mar 5 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by jack_of_tears:
None of this is true.
Explain why. Dont just say this is not true because if you actually understand basic game mechanics you would see that is true.
Originally posted by Mirag3:
Originally posted by TruePandaKnight:
Guns are actually extremely op with the ability to dual wield and 75% time slow from the Ranger tree. Bows are extremely weak by comparison.
They are not OP they do not do even half of the damage of a 2 handed swords can do the reload time kills your DPS and survival in closed areas, but hey if you actually understand the mechanics of the game you would see that, guns and muskets are on the bottom of the DPS list. Bows do GOOD damage but still not as good as melee weapons.

And here are you completly wrong.
The reload time of an Arkebuse and pistols are completely irrelevant.
Pistols and Arkebuses have the highest Stun on a single hit, which will Greatweapons never reach and reload didnt mater if the enemy is stuned after double hit from pistols and your special attack on a stuned enemy, with Arkebuse, crit him with 26k dmg.

And also reload is in a double persepective not a relevant factor as there is a perk that directly reload your weapons if you switch between weapon sets (Pistols to stun, Arkebuse to kill), plus switch them 50% faster.

So its absolutly true, Arkebuse + double pistols actually the strongest weapon combo and bow are not nearly as strong as them (bows was in every Pillars of Eternty Game bevore Avowed also more weaker range weapons, so maybe someone by Obsidian didnt like bows).

But on the end its also irrelvant, you can beat Path of Damnation in Avowed with every weapontype, but with arkebuse + double pistols path of damnation feels more like playing storymode dificulty as highest dificulty.
Last edited by Nightslaver; Mar 5 @ 10:14pm
Mirag3 Mar 5 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Nightslaver:
Originally posted by Mirag3:
They are not OP they do not do even half of the damage of a 2 handed swords can do the reload time kills your DPS and survival in closed areas, but hey if you actually understand the mechanics of the game you would see that, guns and muskets are on the bottom of the DPS list. Bows do GOOD damage but still not as good as melee weapons.

And here are you completly wrong.
The reload time of an Arkebuse and pistols are completely irrelevant.
Pistols and Arkebuses have the highest Stun on a single hit, which will Greatweapons never reach and reload didnt mater if the enemy is stuned after double hit from pistols and your special attack on a stuned enemy, with Arkebuse, crit him with 26k dmg.

And also reload is in a double persepective not a relevant factor as there is a perk that directly reload your weapons if you switch between weapon sets (Pistols to stun, Arkebuse to kill), plus switch them 50% faster.

So its absolutly true, Arkebuse + double pistols actually the strongest weapon combo and bow are not nearly as strong as them (bows was in every Pillars of Eternty Game bevore Avowed also more weaker range weapons, so maybe someone by Obsidian didnt like bows).

But on the end its also irrelvant, you can beat Path of Damnation in Avowed with every weapontype, but with arkebuse + double pistols path of damnation feels more like playing storymode dificulty as highest dificulty.
I tested the rifle when i got the one from the star shard which is considered the best, The highest i could hit was 1400 i thought that is way too low because for every musket shot i could swing 3 times times with my sword at 1000 dmg... so i didnt think the weapon was any good.
Originally posted by Mirag3:
I played the game on my friends account for a while and i looked up the loot and things. What you are saying yes its correct about the enchanting but if you are trying to play more efficiently you are never going to change the enchants on weapons only the value.
If you're trying to play more efficiently you'd be switching the enchant for whichever one best suited your playstyle. Caeroc's Pride for example by default deals shock accumulation on power attacks. The upgrades are to either extend that accumulation to an AoE or give it a 25% chance of casting Crackling Bolt. Which of those is more efficient?
Originally posted by Nightslaver:
You found more as enoth food and poitions as loot, that there is no need to craft food to heal you or pay gold to buy a potion.
Problem is the food you can find as loot is for the most part crap. What makes it particularly useful to cook however is -
Only thing what i have crafted with cooking was this food that gives you +6 to all Attributes in Dialoges
Without which it's pretty much impossible to hit those skill 9 dialogue checks on the first two maps.
You can easy play nearly the complete game if you grab any standard weapon and armor from prologe and upgrade them with mats to superb quality.
Which is true of most games. You can complete Doom with nothing but the starting pistol. That doesn't mean the shotgun is useless however. Similarly you can probably complete Avowed with nothing but the weapon it gives you at the start if you keep upgrading it. I'm not sure why you'd bother though given there's a plethora of better weapons available, nor can I think of a reason why a player's insistence on ignoring those better weapons suggests the game is the one with the problem. As the old engineering adage goes, you can't fix stupid ...
Mirag3 Mar 6 @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by archonsod:
Originally posted by Mirag3:
I played the game on my friends account for a while and i looked up the loot and things. What you are saying yes its correct about the enchanting but if you are trying to play more efficiently you are never going to change the enchants on weapons only the value.
If you're trying to play more efficiently you'd be switching the enchant for whichever one best suited your playstyle. Caeroc's Pride for example by default deals shock accumulation on power attacks. The upgrades are to either extend that accumulation to an AoE or give it a 25% chance of casting Crackling Bolt. Which of those is more efficient?
Originally posted by Nightslaver:
You found more as enoth food and poitions as loot, that there is no need to craft food to heal you or pay gold to buy a potion.
Problem is the food you can find as loot is for the most part crap. What makes it particularly useful to cook however is -
Only thing what i have crafted with cooking was this food that gives you +6 to all Attributes in Dialoges
Without which it's pretty much impossible to hit those skill 9 dialogue checks on the first two maps.
You can easy play nearly the complete game if you grab any standard weapon and armor from prologe and upgrade them with mats to superb quality.
Which is true of most games. You can complete Doom with nothing but the starting pistol. That doesn't mean the shotgun is useless however. Similarly you can probably complete Avowed with nothing but the weapon it gives you at the start if you keep upgrading it. I'm not sure why you'd bother though given there's a plethora of better weapons available, nor can I think of a reason why a player's insistence on ignoring those better weapons suggests the game is the one with the problem. As the old engineering adage goes, you can't fix stupid ...
The thing is the enchanting is a 1 time thing, once you choose its done. No way to undo which perfectly adds to my point of the game being not finished.... I had the 4 best weapons in the game and i didnt need to change the enchant because the ones that came with the weapon were better so whats the point of having an enchanting system to begin with LOL.
AA Mar 6 @ 12:38pm 
Loot can be sold or broken down to upgrade gear.
AR | jedidethfreak (Banned) Mar 6 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Inokis:
You opinion is only specific yo you.

Cooking is a boon and very useful so potions arent wasted. Its easier to get 100 stew than it is 20 potions.

I have the first two campanions and exploring is still necessary. So your opinion is inaccurate.

Every area has multiple uniques for every build. The upgrade items go in tiers based on the type of item. Since there are a multitude of builds and items there are many types of resources to support any combination. Your opinion is inaccurate.

Your synopsis and summary does not reflect the quality of the game.
Cooking is most definitely not necessary - eating the ingredients is just as effective at preventing the waste of potions.
The mind boggles how you can "know" all that without playing the game and without reviews saying it, either.
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