Obsidian Entertainment can't have made this game

[Torgrim]

The game feels like an indie studio made it not Obsidian Entertainment, it feels rushed, everything just feels basic, animations are laughable like when you run you glide around like you are on ice, what is going on here.

[Ele]

That’s the new standard, I guess. Not for me, though.

[oghie1kenobi]

Always remember when a big new flashy game is marketed as being from the developers of a well-loved game, it's not studios that matter, it's the PEOPLE who made that game that matter. Take a look at Back 4 Blood, Turtle Rock invented the idea of Left 4 Dead, but basically all the good parts were made by Valve. When they split off, they only had a few of the original developers who weren't at valve, and that game is hot ♥♥♥♥, even though it was supposedly from the same studio who created L4D, the people who made it what it was weren't part of B4B.

[Metadigital]

Welcome to late stage capitalism. It's best to learn how to enjoy good trash, because that's what is profitable right now.

That being said, Avowed is fairly good compared to a lot of other games.

[mrp25]

Um, Obsidian IS an indie studio.

[Lamiosa]

Games getting worse. People love to compare to Skyrim, but if you do so, Avowed looks really bad. The NPCs are scripted, you cannot attack them, guards do not react on fights, sitting on benches or standing around all day. Cannot even shoot birds. Arrows stick in stones like in wood. NPCs not reacting at all to the player.
In Sykrim the NPCs went on their daily routines, they all reacted to player, you could attack everyone and guards tried to arrest you, if you do.
Avowed feels like backward developement, being 10 years older than Skyrim.

[ko]

They had Beamdog help them out on Avowed, so that explains some of it. You know, the devs of the terrible Siege of Dragonspear.

[ko]

Originally posted by mrp25:

Um, Obsidian IS an indie studio.

Wut? They're fully owned by trillion dollar corporation Microsoft. Probably one of the least indie studios in the world.

Larian is technically indie though, because they are an independent developer. But even that is stretching the definition quite a lot from what most people understand it to mean.

[BlueBangkok]

The game is mediocre, although still much better than Veilguard, imho.
Completely expected and safe, sterile creation from modern obsidian.

Also, you realize, OP, that the legendary obsidian entertainment that made KOTOR 2, New Vegas, or Mask of the Betrayer no longer exists, right? The people who worked on those gems moved to pursue other jobs at other studios.

[mrp25]

Originally posted by ko:

Originally posted by mrp25:

Um, Obsidian IS an indie studio.

Wut? They're fully owned by trillion dollar corporation Microsoft. Probably one of the least indie studios in the world.

Larian is technically indie though, because they are an independent developer. But even that is stretching the definition quite a lot from what most people understand it to mean.

And? Their studio still made the game. The Pillars of Eternity franchise only exists thanks to crowd funding. They have never been a AAA studio. Now that Microsoft owns them, they now have more resources moving forward.

[Torgrim]

Originally posted by mrp25:

Um, Obsidian IS an indie studio.

Well KNOWN studio with ex Bioware employees, so no not just run of the mill indie studio, maby you should read up what games they have done in the past.

[Torgrim]

Originally posted by ko:

They had Beamdog help them out on Avowed, so that explains some of it. You know, the devs of the terrible Siege of Dragonspear.

Well that's explains a lot.

[Torgrim]

Originally posted by BlueBangkok:

The game is mediocre, although still much better than Veilguard, imho.
Completely expected and safe, sterile creation from modern obsidian.

Also, you realize, OP, that the legendary obsidian entertainment that made KOTOR 2, New Vegas, or Mask of the Betrayer no longer exists, right? The people who worked on those gems moved to pursue other jobs at other studios.

At this point I feel Veilguard are much better game both visual and gameplay, sure it has It's cringe moment but still.

[Recoil36]

Originally posted by Metadigital:

Welcome to late stage capitalism. It's best to learn how to enjoy good trash, because that's what is profitable right now.

That being said, Avowed is fairly good compared to a lot of other games.

Capitalism has nothing to do with this game being mid. The lack of creativity with the people making this game so.

[droaan]

Originally posted by oghie1kenobi:

Always remember when a big new flashy game is marketed as being from the developers of a well-loved game, it's not studios that matter, it's the PEOPLE who made that game that matter. Take a look at Back 4 Blood, Turtle Rock invented the idea of Left 4 Dead, but basically all the good parts were made by Valve. When they split off, they only had a few of the original developers who weren't at valve, and that game is hot ♥♥♥♥, even though it was supposedly from the same studio who created L4D, the people who made it what it was weren't part of B4B.

100% family.

[SaD-82]

Originally posted by Torgrim:

The game feels like an indie studio made it

Woah, woah, woah - a lot of indie game devs churn out way better games than this - no need to insult those indie devs by comparing them to this unqualified throng of people who call themselves AAA-developer.