Can we stop comparing Avowed to Skyrim/Oblivion already?

[Hellleon]

First off, the whole prop-moving thing. You know how in Skyrim or Oblivion you can throw a spoon across the room or stack random junk for no reason? That’s the Creation Engine flexing—super cool in its own way. But Avowed? It’s Unreal Engine. It’s not built for that. It’s more about looking gorgeous and running smooth than letting me toss buckets around. Trying to judge it for something it’s not even trying to do is just unfair.

Then there’s archery. People are like “oh, how’s the bow gonna stack up to Skyrim?” It’s not even the same deal. In Bethesda games, you’re counting arrows and scavenging for more. Avowed doesn’t even use ammo for its bow in a traditional way. It’s a totally different flavor of combat, not a 1:1 competitor.

And don’t get me started on lockpicking. I’ve seen folks say Skyrim and Oblivion had the “real” lockpicking experience, but let’s be real—half the time those minigames were a pain in the ass. I’d rather explore than fidget with a lockpick for five minutes. Obsidian didn’t bother with that in The Outer Worlds either, and nobody cared because the game was still good.

Why expect Avowed to copy a mechanic most people don’t even miss?

Now, I’ll give the comparison folks two fair points. Pickpocketing was a thing in The Outer Worlds. Breaking the law was also legit; you could steal, fight guards, and deal with the fallout. Avowed doesn’t let you do that, though. No pickpocketing, no law-breaking—NPCs just shrug if you grab stuff in front of them, if they react at all. That’s a bummer compared to The Outer Worlds, and I get why some people miss that freedom.

Idk, I just think we should chill and let Avowed be its own thing. It’s not trying to be Skyrim 2.0 Comparing it to Bethesda’s formula feels like missing the point. Anyone else tired of these takes, or am I just yelling into the void here?

[Lexander]

yeah its a bad comparison but only because skyrim took less time and cost way less money to develop than awoked lol

[Fraktal]

We should compare Awoked to Morrowind. Would be more fair.

[Jinzo]

What is its own thing exactly? That its "graphically impressive" slop like most modern games?

You know its funny before release the shills were so obsessed with calling Avowed the “Skyrim Killer” too.

[XartaX]

No. But I'm sure we'll find more old games to run comparisons with. Avowed is so bad.

Edit: Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYY9uRiwKg

[Necessity]

Comparing 'The Outer World' with 'Avowed' is like comparing lama dung with that of an alpaca. Both ♥♥♥♥ in the end.

[ko]

No.

[JiveTurkey]

引用自 Jinzo：

You know its funny before release the shills were so obsessed with calling Avowed the “Skyrim Killer” too.

Who was calling it that?

[LazyJoeBeard]

Its human nature to compare things so it will never stop.

Human judgment is by nature comparative. When people make evaluations, they do so in relation to a pertinent norm or standard. To describe oneself as tall, for example, implies that one is taller than others.

[LazyJoeBeard]

引用自 Hellleon：

引用自 Lexander：

yeah its a bad comparison but only because skyrim took less time and cost way less money to develop than awoked lol

Wrong. Skyrim was in development for 12 years, avowed for about 7.
Skyrim cost around $115–135 million in today’s dollars (adjusted for inflation from $85–100 million in 2011), Avowed likely ranged between $100–150 million,

So, they cost almost the same in production. Avowed numbers are currently speculation though.

Regardless of budget its a 14 year old game and a current game. That is the biggest thing people are pointing out in the comparisons.

[Lexander]

引用自 Hellleon：

引用自 Lexander：

yeah its a bad comparison but only because skyrim took less time and cost way less money to develop than awoked lol

Wrong. Skyrim was in development for 12 years, avowed for about 7.
Skyrim cost around $115–135 million in today’s dollars (adjusted for inflation from $85–100 million in 2011), Avowed likely ranged between $100–150 million,

So, they cost almost the same in production. Avowed numbers are currently speculation though.

sure dude, they started skyrim development before they released morrowind, keep coping

[Lexander]

引用自 LazyJoeBeard：

引用自 Hellleon：

Wrong. Skyrim was in development for 12 years, avowed for about 7.
Skyrim cost around $115–135 million in today’s dollars (adjusted for inflation from $85–100 million in 2011), Avowed likely ranged between $100–150 million,

So, they cost almost the same in production. Avowed numbers are currently speculation though.

Regardless of budget its a 14 year old game and a current game. That is the biggest thing people are pointing out in the comparisons.

that guy already deleted his post, must have felt stupid af lmao

[Unknownpony]

Okay. Let's compare it to their older game then.
Ufff still looks like trash with barely any content and features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYY9uRiwKg

[XartaX]

引用自 Lexander：

引用自 LazyJoeBeard：

Regardless of budget its a 14 year old game and a current game. That is the biggest thing people are pointing out in the comparisons.

that guy already deleted his post, must have felt stupid af lmao

I mean it is an incredibly stupid take. Like if you went back 20 years in time, you think you could build a computer with the same level of performance as a computer today with the same amount of money? Obviously not. Time having passed should demand higher quality for the same price.

[Shouting Parrot]

🤣😂🤣 still not buying. Maybe checking it out when it comes with a monthly humble bundle.

[Janthis]

引用自 Jinzo：

What is its own thing exactly? That its "graphically impressive" slop like most modern games?

You know its funny before release the shills were so obsessed with calling Avowed the “Skyrim Killer” too.

I've never seen anyone call it the "Skyrim killer" except for anti-woke trolls claiming that people were calling it that.