If you think this game is good

[Zymeth]

I recommend trying older RPGs, their quality in many aspects is better. For example search in youtube "Awoved Oblivion" to compare. There is a good chance you will find better, longer, cheaper games for you.

[Kauldric]

I replayed oblivion the other days. I think the nostalgia is strong and it was far less good than I remembered.

When we think “oh the old ones were better”, it is a sign of old age. It hits all of us, bud. But we need to fight the mental decay.

[DrKold]

I mean this game doesnt look terrible tbh.. i will proably puchase at some point depending on the discount.

But the fact that 20 year old games are better in alot of ways is concerning.

[Halcyform]

Playing it on gamepass. The game is "ok" but that's about it. Something new to play but the novelty is kind of fading already.

The only thing it seems to have going for it is previously established lore, but that is largely lost on new players because the game just assumes you know what the npcs are talking about when they reference stuff from PoE.

When you consider the overall package, Kindgom of Amalur is the superior game and I recommend people checking that out at some point if they haven't done so yet.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by DrKold:

I mean this game doesnt look terrible tbh.. i will proably puchase at some point depending on the discount.

But the fact that 20 year old games are better in alot of ways is concerning.

That isn't a fact though lol those games had different design goals so obviously they're going to do certain things better that Avowed was never even trying to do.

[Izunyami]

Originally posted by LazyJoeBeard:

Originally posted by Johnny_B_80:

You come to a game forum to say "Here are some better games you can play." I would call that gratuitously nasty, not to mention subjective.

I see no issue with recommending other games, he thinks this one is lacking and is saying games they think are better at a much lower cost.

Except he is being incredibly dishonest by pretending to not notice how almost every thread here is viciously attacking the game, the devs, and the players.

Even a blind person would have noticed.

[Ourobyss]

They are also good.

[Raï 𓆣]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

I replayed oblivion the other days. I think the nostalgia is strong and it was far less good than I remembered.

When we think “oh the old ones were better”, it is a sign of old age. It hits all of us, bud. But we need to fight the mental decay.

That is true. But there's also a notable shift in game design philosophy. Some of it is absolutely better - such as quality of life features and a better understanding of how to approach gameplay mechanics.

At the other hand, many of the bigger titles are strictly adhering to the philosophy of how to extract as much money from a consumer as possible. These things are actively taught if you study gamedesign. It's a stark difference between a friend of mine who learned gamedesign and me, a gamer who appreciates naive attempts to gamedesign.

More focused on streamlining or manipulations. On microtransactions, unneccessary frustrations designed within the gameplay model so that we want to pay for that QoL feature.

There are less secrets or niche attempts - which makes BG3 rather unique for its time where people can witness content and be part of that rare 5 percent, because the devs care seemingly a bit more about gameplay experience and memorability, than to simply churn out "another one".

It's a mix of nostalgia, where we could dream what the next Oblivion or Fallout would be capable of - and the perverting of the industry to design the most profitable product imaginable.

[DrKold]

Originally posted by Halcyform:

Playing it on gamepass. The game is "ok" but that's about it. Something new to play but the novelty is kind of fading already.

The only thing it seems to have going for it is previously established lore, but that is largely lost on new players because the game just assumes you know what the npcs are talking about when they reference stuff from PoE.

When you consider the overall package, Kindgom of Amalur is the superior game and I recommend people checking that out at some point if they haven't done so yet.

Oh right this game is supposed to be in the same universe as PoE right ?

Damn thats a shame i really liked those games.. why didnt they just make a third one ?

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Originally posted by DrKold:

I mean this game doesnt look terrible tbh.. i will proably puchase at some point depending on the discount.

But the fact that 20 year old games are better in alot of ways is concerning.

That isn't a fact though lol those games had different design goals so obviously they're going to do certain things better that Avowed was never even trying to do.

Well different goals hm..

I agree theres alot of nitpicking like arrows being stuck in the wall or not being able to throw plates around.

But guards only responding in scripted momenst and NPC´s just standing around not even having conversations is very bad.
It makes the world seem dead.

At least to me.

Oh and if oblivion was able to do this 20 years ago, it should be expected to be done today sorry.

[Valfossa]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Originally posted by DrKold:

I mean this game doesnt look terrible tbh.. i will proably puchase at some point depending on the discount.

But the fact that 20 year old games are better in alot of ways is concerning.

That isn't a fact though lol those games had different design goals so obviously they're going to do certain things better that Avowed was never even trying to do.

Like being a good game?

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Chrisader:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

That isn't a fact though lol those games had different design goals so obviously they're going to do certain things better that Avowed was never even trying to do.

Like being a good game?

Nope, this is a good game.

[dickolasッ]

Originally posted by Johnny_B_80:

I've played through Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Witcher 3, and many others. I also love this game. I don't get the point of these nasty posts.

recomending games is considered nasty now?

[Valfossa]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Originally posted by Chrisader:

Like being a good game?

Nope, this is a good game.

Nope, it's not.

[Wokelander]

Originally posted by Kauldric:

I replayed oblivion the other days. I think the nostalgia is strong and it was far less good than I remembered.

When we think “oh the old ones were better”, it is a sign of old age. It hits all of us, bud. But we need to fight the mental decay.

Oblivions was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible if you ask me, I think I uninstalled it after maybe 5 hours max back then

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by Zymeth:

I recommend trying older RPGs, their quality in many aspects is better. For example search in youtube "Awoved Oblivion" to compare. There is a good chance you will find better, longer, cheaper games for you.

oblivion runs like ass though so..

[LazyJoeBeard]

Originally posted by Wokelander:

Originally posted by LazyJoeBeard:

The only 2 ways I can see people really enjoying this is if they are fans of the lore or if they don't play RPG's often enough to see its massively lacking in every aspect.

Enjoying a game because you like the story and setting (aka "lore") seems like a pretty typical reason to play games in general.

I swear, some gamers are such pick-mes, thinking being a gamer is some kind of weird popularity contest where you somehow "win" if you only play the most mainstream popular ones

I would normally agree but this games writing is quite lacking.