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MjauMix Feb 12 @ 1:57am
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This looks..woke?
In the promo material I see a pink-haired chubby elf, a black woman.. woke colors in general like pink and purple. What else? Pronouns? White SIC man as the big bad?
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hush Feb 12 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by Butcher:
Originally posted by hush:
sure bro. but the point is about avowed. now you keep moving goalposts HAHAHAH
But Avowed is not an anime game?
yeah but you said stellar blade is not woke since it has mature characters even though it features pink and purple. i don't really care if you think anime is woke. i'm only interested with the your definition of woke. HAHAHAAH
Butcher Feb 12 @ 5:34am 
Originally posted by hush:
Originally posted by JiveTurkey:

Always were SJWs. It's pure projection.
yes agree, getting offended at everything.
Yeah, like at my award winning commentary above
Butcher Feb 12 @ 5:34am 
Originally posted by hush:
Originally posted by Butcher:
But Avowed is not an anime game?
yeah but you said stellar blade is not woke since it has mature characters even though it features pink and purple. i don't really care if you think anime is woke. i'm only interested with the your definition of woke. HAHAHAAH
I never said that, ever. In fact I never played Stellar Blade.
hush Feb 12 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by Butcher:
Originally posted by hush:
yes agree, getting offended at everything.
Yeah, like at my award winning commentary above
HAHAHA that's why i like you butcher. i find it really funny HAHAHA
Butcher Feb 12 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by hush:
Originally posted by Butcher:
Yeah, like at my award winning commentary above
HAHAHA that's why i like you butcher. i find it really funny HAHAHA
Protip - laugh it off to give an impression of a cool guy
Originally posted by Butcher:
Originally posted by MancSoulja:
Elfs are woke - MjauMix, February 2025.
That is true?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=201497691
Dwarves are less so
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=167582694
no way thats actually in this game... holy cow :D thank you for exposing it. Not paying a single coin to political agenda driver gaming projects that are created to sibliminally mind control people by indoctrinating their ideologies into the brain off innocent players.

Thank you.

Enjoy the reward that you deserve
Last edited by TonnieKrain; Feb 12 @ 5:38am
hush Feb 12 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by Butcher:
Originally posted by hush:
HAHAHA that's why i like you butcher. i find it really funny HAHAHA
Protip - laugh it off to give an impression of a cool guy
sure bro. whatever you say to make you feel good.
Butcher Feb 12 @ 5:45am 
Originally posted by TonnyKrain:
Originally posted by Butcher:
That is true?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=201497691
Dwarves are less so
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=167582694
no way thats actually in this game... holy cow :D thank you for exposing it. Not paying a single coin to political agenda driver gaming projects that are created to sibliminally mind control people by indoctrinating their ideologies into the brain off innocent players.

Thank you.

Enjoy the reward that you deserve
Regarding Dragon Commander, you can actually ban gay marriage. Dwarves and undead oppose gay marriage, elves and lizards support it, gremlins don't care.

It gives you freedom to choose. You can marry skeleton and then either keep her that way, turn her into cyborg, human, vampire or zombie. You can marry vegan elf waifu and force her to eat meat.
VaniKa Feb 12 @ 5:49am 
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Originally posted by MjauMix:
It's interesting, because women who play games overwhelmingly choose the traditional "hot" female characters, not the unattractive drab options who look like men.
Hey, I also create characters I find attractive when I can. But that doesn't mean a game has to design every protagonist, especially fixed ones with a defined background, to fit a specific beauty standard. Sometimes, a story is better told with characters who look average, who don't wear makeup in the apocalypse, or who don't care about their tan.

But what I'm really talking about isn't just being "sexy", it's about being sexualized for male consumption. Things like "pantsu shots", clothes conveniently ripping in fights, exaggerated breast sizes, or suggestive posing serve no purpose other than catering to a straight male audience. That's the difference. There's nothing wrong with a character being attractive, but if they exist primarily as an object for a player's pleasure, without grounding in the game's setting, that's just fan service. And when female characters are consistently treated as commodities rather than people, it sends a bad societal message.

The so-called "uglification" argument is just a strawman. It's easy to rebut, but the real discussion is about how women are viewed and treated, not just in games, but in society as a whole.

Originally posted by MjauMix:
And how big % of the potential playerbase are trans and/or gays? 1%? Probably even less. And a trans gay player would shun the game if it didn't have pronouns? Can't they roleplay?
Pronouns mainly serve non-binary people, allowing them to mix and match different aspects of sex/gender in a way that aligns with their identity. If a cis player finds exactly what they need in "he/him" and "male", then others should have that same opportunity. It's not about forcing anything on anyone, it's about making sure more people feel included.

Also, the argument that a group doesn't deserve recognition just because they're small is a flawed way of thinking. That's not how a good democracy works. There's a saying: "The value of a society is measured by how it treats its weakest members." A democracy isn't just about majority rule, it's about ensuring fairness for everyone, even those in smaller groups.

Sadly, some political climates have lost sight of this, treating governance as a power struggle rather than a system meant to protect all people.

Originally posted by MjauMix:
Almost everyone who is interested in a RPG game are men who want to do cool ♥♥♥♥ and sometimes look at attractive chicks in game and not at some unattractive mystery meat character of dubious origin.
Again, it's not about attractiveness in general, it's about dignity and respect for characters. Game characters shouldn't just exist as consumable "meat" for a player's enjoyment. At least not in mainstream titles that aim for storytelling, immersion, or world-building. If someone plays a game designed specifically as adult content, that's a different discussion. But in regular RPGs or action games, half-naked bimbo dolls fighting demons don't make sense, unless the game's world deliberately justifies it.

Originally posted by MjauMix:
Seems logical from a business and gameplay perspective that this overwhelming majority should be catered to and not have their escapist gameplay experience diminished by shoehorning in diversity elements for no real reason.
Games should accommodate all groups of people. The inclusion of more abstract body type labels or pronoun choices doesn't take anything away from cis players, but it does add something for non-binary people.

This isn't really about gameplay mechanics, it's about the message it sends. When people push back against even the smallest acts of inclusion, it's clear they don't just object to the change itself, but to what it represents: the acknowledgment of people they don't want acknowledged.

That's why we see tactics like review bombing or flooding forums with outrage posts. It's not about game design, it's about trying to put minorities "back in their place" through online harassment. Because in their minds, games should cater only to them, and any deviation from that is perceived as a threat.

Originally posted by MjauMix:
And yes, guys typically want to "be" (or have as companions) white traditional characters who look like they can kick ass, not roleplay as a green-haired black gay half-elf with a sob story.
It's telling that when you say "guys," you clearly mean white, cis, and straight guys, ignoring the fact that non-white, gay, and trans guys exist, too. They're also men. But you treat "guy" as if it's synonymous with being white, cis, and straight.

This mindset leads to a kind of cultural hubris. You can see it in phrases like "let's go boys!" in thread titles, which always makes me wonder: why so specific? Don't they realize there are women, too? Why even use terms like "dude" or "bro" when addressing another poster in mixed online communities? The only explanation is because they don't see them as mixed and everybody else is just deemed an exception to the rule.

Gaming isn't a boys' club, but some people treat it as if it should be, defending the exclusion of others as if it's some kind of personal attack. Maybe that's why these discussions get so heated: some players feel like gaming is the last space where male dominance hasn't been eroded, and they don't want to let that go. They might not mind others playing games, but only as long as they don't challenge the existing male-centered gaming culture.
hush Feb 12 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by Butcher:
Originally posted by TonnyKrain:
no way thats actually in this game... holy cow :D thank you for exposing it. Not paying a single coin to political agenda driver gaming projects that are created to sibliminally mind control people by indoctrinating their ideologies into the brain off innocent players.

Thank you.

Enjoy the reward that you deserve
Regarding Dragon Commander, you can actually ban gay marriage. Dwarves and undead oppose gay marriage, elves and lizards support it, gremlins don't care.

It gives you freedom to choose. You can marry skeleton and then either keep her that way, turn her into cyborg, human, vampire or zombie. You can marry vegan elf waifu and force her to eat meat.
still woke. if kingdom come deliverance 2 is considered woke, then this is woke too
Butcher Feb 12 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by hush:
Originally posted by Butcher:
Regarding Dragon Commander, you can actually ban gay marriage. Dwarves and undead oppose gay marriage, elves and lizards support it, gremlins don't care.

It gives you freedom to choose. You can marry skeleton and then either keep her that way, turn her into cyborg, human, vampire or zombie. You can marry vegan elf waifu and force her to eat meat.
still woke. if kingdom come deliverance 2 is considered woke, then this is woke too
Don't care, feeding meat to vegans is funny, sacrificing wives to airship engine is funny, banning gay marriage is funny.
Hahahaha
Originally posted by MjauMix:
In the promo material I see a pink-haired chubby elf, a black woman.. woke colors in general like pink and purple. What else? Pronouns? White SIC man as the big bad?

Yes.
mps Feb 12 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by jjstraka34:
Originally posted by MjauMix:
In the promo material I see a pink-haired chubby elf, a black woman.. woke colors in general like pink and purple. What else? Pronouns? White SIC man as the big bad?

"A black woman". It's nice to see some of you are dropping the charade and admitting what this is all about. Won't make your life any less miserable though. You'll still go through every day searching for your rage fix.
On the other side of things, we have affirmative action and DEI, literally racism for decades. Frankly, both sides are responsible for today's ♥♥♥♥ show.
mps Feb 12 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Mayrbek:
people who talk about woke all the time are the new sjw
This is true.
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