Avowed Boasts 5.9 Million Players In First Month, Leaving Indiana Jones 1.9 Million Behind

[Bob3]

https://pkinsight.com/avowed-players-in-first-month/

[Alt0153]

5.9 million players but only 50k paid for it on steam rest are useless gamepass subs

[AlSemz™]

引用自 stax：

引用自 AlSemz™：

Thats because the market has changed, steam is MUCH larger, do you know how many of those games are indy games.. early access stuff. Having more of something doesnt always equate to more competition..

Indie games are paid for using the same money that AAA games are paid with. So they are still competition.

Besides, even if you make the ridiculous assumption that 90% of games on steam are indie, that STILL means Avowed faces six times as much competiton (from non-indie games) than Dishonored did.

引用自 Xeirus：

引用自 AlSemz™：

What is saturation..?

Competition is driven by quality. Not just more garbage...

Quality is subjective. More is more.
You're 100% wrong.

Your logic would only work is 99% of all new games were asset flips, which they aren't.

Quality is not only subjective it is also objective... It can be measured.. you buy the game and it doesnt even open.. is that a quality product.

[stax]

引用自 Ackranome：

引用自 Xeirus：

Quality is subjective. More is more.
You're 100% wrong.

Your logic would only work is 99% of all new games were asset flips, which they aren't.

So, if I like Sports games and someone tries to get me to play a open world fantasy game - I probably won't - regardless of how many games are out there because I like to shoot hoops. does that make sense?

Sure, but that's you.

Are there people (other than you) who like sports games AND open world fantasy games? If yes (and it is very likely there are), then those two types are still competing against each other.

[Crachis]

引用自 Johnny_B_80：

引用自 grand_adm_thrawn：

Over 1 mln people in Monster Hunter now. GG

And 47% positive reviews.

y no lo juega nadie a día de hoy jajaja, juego olvidado

[Ackranome]

引用自 stax：

引用自 Ackranome：

So, if I like Sports games and someone tries to get me to play a open world fantasy game - I probably won't - regardless of how many games are out there because I like to shoot hoops. does that make sense?

Sure, but that's you.

Are there people (other than you) who like sports games AND open world fantasy games? If yes (and it is very likely there are), then those two types are still competing against each other.

There can be some overlap but the idea that NBA 2K25 is directly competing with Elden Ring or Tekken 8 for "audience" is highly unlikely. They are only similar in the fact they're a game.

[Ele]

引用自 stax：

Do you know how many games came out on Steam last year? 18000.

That's an empty argument.

In case you didn't know, Steam had strict metrics for accepting games back then. Remember the Steam Greenlight initiative that allowed people to sell their own games on Steam if enough people were interested in them? That's when this started.

How many of the 18,000 were Triple-A?

As for this year, we've had around 43 "real" games so far. Everything else is just fodder, copy-paste indie games.

https://www.thegamer.com/video-game-release-dates-2025/

[Kain]

引用自 AlSemz™：

引用自 stax：

You want to talk competition? Sure, let's talk competition.

Do you know how many games came out on Steam the year Dishonored did? 300.
Do you know how many games came out on Steam last year? 18000.

And that does not even take into account Avowed has to compete against ITSELF (on gamepass, where it is MUCH cheaper).

In other words, Avowed has so much more competiton than Dishonored did it's not even funny. And yet, it still met the numbers despite of that.

Thats because the market has changed, steam is MUCH larger, do you know how many of those games are indy games.. early access stuff. Having more of something doesnt always equate to more competition.. This is a AAA game by a major studio, backed by one of the largest publishers.. How many games are released under those conditions.. the field of competition narrows abit.. unless the multi billion dollar coperation microsoft is worried about the 1 man dev team releasing indy games on steam.

ANd I didnt even talk about mobile games which is in fact the largest gaming market and most profitable sector of gaming. Filled with Ads and mirco transactions.

No, the market really is blown out, the amount of games available is enormous and it does impact sales. Not saying this is a problem that Avowed is facing, I think it was released in a time that it didn't have a lot going on, except maybe KCD 2 which is another first person RPG.

But in general we really are spoiled for choices and games have a harder time standing out.

[Crachis]

引用自 Bob3：

https://pkinsight.com/avowed-players-in-first-month/

este juego esta muerto déjalo ya, nadie le hizo caso, solo los de game pass por 1 euros

[stax]

引用自 Ackranome：

引用自 stax：

Sure, but that's you.

Are there people (other than you) who like sports games AND open world fantasy games? If yes (and it is very likely there are), then those two types are still competing against each other.

There can be some overlap but the idea that NBA 2K25 is directly competing with Elden Ring or Tekken 8 for "audience" is highly unlikely. They are only similar in the fact they're a game.

I don't know what to tell you. A person can be "audience" for several games which have nothing in common at all. I don't see what's so highly unlikely about it.

Take me for example. I love first person action games like Avowed. I also like flight simulators. The games have zero overlap, and yet they compete against each other for my money.

[Ackranome]

引用自 stax：

引用自 Ackranome：

There can be some overlap but the idea that NBA 2K25 is directly competing with Elden Ring or Tekken 8 for "audience" is highly unlikely. They are only similar in the fact they're a game.

I don't know what to tell you. A person can be "audience" for several games which have nothing in common at all. I don't see what's so highly unlikely about it.

Take me for example. I love first person action games like Avowed. I also like flight simulators. The games have zero overlap, and yet they compete against each other for my money.

While I agree there can be overlap; the argument is weak - people who play CSGO day in and day out aren't going to be playing Avowed beyond 1 day if at all.

[Forever Vexed]

引用自 AlSemz™：

引用自 Forever Vexed：

I bet you thought you had something there lol.

So you just agreed you said absolutely nothing.

CLASSIC

The only one saying nothing is you.

You just said you said nothing. Why did you backpedal?

[stax]

引用自 Ackranome：

引用自 stax：

I don't know what to tell you. A person can be "audience" for several games which have nothing in common at all. I don't see what's so highly unlikely about it.

Take me for example. I love first person action games like Avowed. I also like flight simulators. The games have zero overlap, and yet they compete against each other for my money.

While I agree there can be overlap; the argument is weak - people who play CSGO day in and day out aren't going to be playing Avowed beyond 1 day if at all.

Unless you know each of them personally, you can not possibly make such a statement.
Well you can but... you know.

[AlSemz™]

引用自 Forever Vexed：

引用自 AlSemz™：

The only one saying nothing is you.

You just said you said nothing. Why did you backpedal?

Look at you going in circles.

[Kain]

引用自 Ackranome：

引用自 stax：

I don't know what to tell you. A person can be "audience" for several games which have nothing in common at all. I don't see what's so highly unlikely about it.

Take me for example. I love first person action games like Avowed. I also like flight simulators. The games have zero overlap, and yet they compete against each other for my money.

While I agree there can be overlap; the argument is weak - people who play CSGO day in and day out aren't going to be playing Avowed beyond 1 day if at all.

I think yours is weaker. An unknowable amount of people who play CS all that that you assume wouldn't play nothing else.

I think he makes a much better point for people having a variety of game types they might enjoy.

[SaD-82]

Can someone who thinks that those 18.000 games would have made any impact tell me:
How many of those 18.000 games do you know?