DenuvoGreed?

[Greed Is Addiction]

So what's the story - are they packing in the Denuvo malware DRM at the last minute to create game stutters and lose frames?

It's always the Day 1 people and early adopters who pay the highest price for the most buggy version. Possibly even paranoia-driven Denuvo baked into the cost.

Let the early adopters pay the highest cost for all the bs, so everyone else can breeze in down the road after the game is all patched up and on sale for less.

[patrick68794]

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

Denuvo doesn't do what you think it does lol

I've been watching and studying what Denuvo does since it came out. I've been watching various forms of DRM and seeing their effects for the past 30 years.

And somehow you still clearly have no idea what it does, how it works, or why it's used.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

I've been watching and studying what Denuvo does since it came out. I've been watching various forms of DRM and seeing their effects for the past 30 years.

And somehow you still clearly have no idea what it does, how it works, or why it's used.

Sure I do. I didn't include even early forms of DRM like code wheels. One of the greatest frauds of our time involves denying Denuvo can do any harm. Yet with every single test once it's removed, the games run better with more frames.

I shouldn't have to pay extra for baked in Denuvo costs to have a new game run worse. That's for simple folks who don't know better. I'm not feeding dev paranoia by the inclusion of malware.

We only have a few weeks left here to see if Denuvo makes it into the game.

[patrick68794]

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

And somehow you still clearly have no idea what it does, how it works, or why it's used.

Sure I do. I didn't include even early forms of DRM like code wheels. One of the greatest frauds of our time involves denying Denuvo can do any harm. Yet with every single test once it's removed, the games run better with more frames.

I shouldn't have to pay extra for baked in Denuvo costs to have a new game run worse. That's for simple folks who don't know better. I'm not feeding dev paranoia by the inclusion of malware.

We only have a few weeks left here to see if Denuvo makes it into the game.

You don't though. You just wanna ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan about something that you read was bad on the internet lol

[Greed Is Addiction]

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

Sure I do. I didn't include even early forms of DRM like code wheels. One of the greatest frauds of our time involves denying Denuvo can do any harm. Yet with every single test once it's removed, the games run better with more frames.

I shouldn't have to pay extra for baked in Denuvo costs to have a new game run worse. That's for simple folks who don't know better. I'm not feeding dev paranoia by the inclusion of malware.

We only have a few weeks left here to see if Denuvo makes it into the game.

You don't though. You just wanna ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan about something that you read was bad on the internet lol

You wish. The more people who are aware of what Denuvo does, the better. Using up resources which are then unavailable for the game to use. Have you seen the bloated game executable file size on games with Denuvo? Everyone else has.

Did you know: if you take the recommended sleep of 8 hours a day, that by the time you're 90 years old you'll have slept 30 years of your life away?

Did you know: we've only had somewhat healthy modern medicine the past 60 years, and prior to that humanity has grown and flourished like weeds?

Sometimes, you just need to look outside of your programming and your indoctrination. That's where most of the truth hides but not on purpose.

[Archgod]

Xbox doesn't seem to care about adding denuvo to the games they publish

[patrick68794]

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

You don't though. You just wanna ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan about something that you read was bad on the internet lol

You wish. The more people who are aware of what Denuvo does, the better. Using up resources which are then unavailable for the game to use. Have you seen the bloated game executable file size on games with Denuvo? Everyone else has.

Did you know: if you take the recommended sleep of 8 hours a day, that by the time you're 90 years old you'll have slept 30 years of your life away?

Did you know: we've only had somewhat healthy modern medicine the past 60 years, and prior to that humanity has grown and flourished like weeds?

Sometimes, you just need to look outside of your programming and your indoctrination. That's where most of the truth hides but not on purpose.

lol this is just ignorant drivel that has absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

You wish. The more people who are aware of what Denuvo does, the better. Using up resources which are then unavailable for the game to use. Have you seen the bloated game executable file size on games with Denuvo? Everyone else has.

Did you know: if you take the recommended sleep of 8 hours a day, that by the time you're 90 years old you'll have slept 30 years of your life away?

Did you know: we've only had somewhat healthy modern medicine the past 60 years, and prior to that humanity has grown and flourished like weeds?

Sometimes, you just need to look outside of your programming and your indoctrination. That's where most of the truth hides but not on purpose.

lol this is just ignorant drivel that has absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand.

The goal was inferring that anyone who supports Denuvo in any way is pretty much clueless, and doesn't mind losing games they bought when the DRM breaks.

[patrick68794]

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

lol this is just ignorant drivel that has absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand.

The goal was inferring that anyone who supports Denuvo in any way is pretty much clueless, and doesn't mind losing games they bought when the DRM breaks.

lol your "goal" was just nonsense then. To be expected based on your other posts though.

[Sky]

This game has bigger issues like being racist against white people.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

The goal was inferring that anyone who supports Denuvo in any way is pretty much clueless, and doesn't mind losing games they bought when the DRM breaks.

lol your "goal" was just nonsense then. To be expected based on your other posts though.

There aren't any sound reasons to support Denuvo, other than the greed addiction program (completely altered thinking). Adding more locks onto things until they break only hassles the people who buy the locks.

I don't expect you to grasp or understand any kind of logic because addiction to money and wealth seems quite blind to any form of logic. What doesn't make sense though is being in perpetual denial of the obvious. Maybe you're just trolling.

[patrick68794]

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

lol your "goal" was just nonsense then. To be expected based on your other posts though.

There aren't any sound reasons to support Denuvo, other than the greed addiction program (completely altered thinking). Adding more locks onto things until they break only hassles the people who buy the locks.

I don't expect you to grasp or understand any kind of logic because addiction to money and wealth seems quite blind to any form of logic. What doesn't make sense though is being in perpetual denial of the obvious. Maybe you're just trolling.

Maybe if you post some of this "logic" instead of ignorance there could be a discussion. You have yet to do so though.

[Amaka]

Escrito originalmente por Nightmarian:

Escrito originalmente por DrZann:

Pillars 2 was great, as was Outer Worlds, but I'll give you Dungeon Siege.

I mean, you might think so. I agree Deadfire wasn't bad but imo it wasn't the followup I wanted and it had genuine flaws. There's a reason why people look to Owlcat and Larian as shining examples of modern CRPGs and now Obsidian's PoE games much as I love the setting.

Deadfire sold badly though, Dungeon Siege 3 was a trashcan fire, and though Outer Worlds sold a lot just like Starfield based on premise and prestiege, also like Starfield it became panned by fans afterward.

Most people probably never finished the game, as 90% of reviews are with only a few hours played. The opening hours of the game are good, but it falls of a cliff hard, most people agree the second half was rushed and the DLC retreads too much ground. Outer Worlds is considered mid and bland by many RPG fans,

So yeah, it's actually been a while since Obsidian has had a true hit. That's the whole reason why they sold themselves to Microsoft and likely why they're still only being given AA funding.

gameplay wise, deadfire was the peak of real time crpgs, narrative wise it took a dive without avallone, overall a great game still

[savagestranger]

While Denuvo can hurt game performance—most notably in terms of loading times and CPU usage—the extent of its impact depends heavily on how it is implemented and the player's hardware. In some cases, the difference is negligible, but poorly optimized implementations have caused significant issues in specific titles.

[Jade]

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

Escrito originalmente por patrick68794:

Denuvo doesn't do what you think it does lol

I've been watching and studying what Denuvo does since it came out. I've been watching various forms of DRM and seeing their effects for the past 30 years.

You say this but what you really mean is you've been blindly consuming youtube content, reddit posts, etc and have done no research yourself. If you really care that much go reverse engineer Denuvo yourself.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Escrito originalmente por Aria:

Escrito originalmente por Greed Is Addiction:

I've been watching and studying what Denuvo does since it came out. I've been watching various forms of DRM and seeing their effects for the past 30 years.

You say this but what you really mean is you've been blindly consuming youtube content, reddit posts, etc and have done no research yourself. If you really care that much go reverse engineer Denuvo yourself.

That's a lot of projection. One only has to look at the bloated game executables to see the start of what's going on.