Gameplay and details about Avowed, based on 6 hours of gameplay.

[nomadpad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9GH1WQLWTE

[DrZann]

Always enjoy Skill Up's run down.

[nomadpad]

Originally posted by DrZann:

Always enjoy Skill Up's run down.

almost convinced me into buy desk, even

[nomadpad]

Originally posted by DrZann:

Always enjoy Skill Up's run down.

glad he covered the exploration factor.

[DrZann]

Originally posted by nomadpad:

Originally posted by DrZann:

Always enjoy Skill Up's run down.

almost convinced me into buy desk, even

It is a nice looking desk.

[Nightmarian]

This is an old video. To be fair, he (His team, but he's still effectively head editor and approves it after seeing it) had a really positive outlook on games like Concord and especially Veilguard, only to change his mind completely upon release with the full context of the entire game.

Others also had initially positive previews of games like Redfall too.

Basically, previews mean very little than that. It's a preview. Like a trailer to a movie. And likewise, you can't judge the entire movie based on a trailer or preview.

Wait for his and others' proper reviews and actual gamer experience.

[nomadpad]

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

This is an old video. To be fair, he (His team, but he's still effectively head editor and approves it after seeing it) had a really positive outlook on games like Concord and especially Veilguard, only to change his mind completely upon release with the full context of the entire game.

Others also had initially positive previews of games like Redfall too.

Basically, previews mean very little than that. It's a preview. Like a trailer to a movie. And likewise, you can't judge the entire movie based on a trailer or preview.

Wait for his and others' proper reviews and actual gamer experience.

well unlike concord or veilguard, we are getting a lot of gameplay footage, which opinions are being based off. rather trust that over mass hysteria or the negative views of people who haven't played it.

so now the next step is for me to play it and judge it myself. that is all there is ands howe gaming is done. beside veilguard was decent in terms of gameplay and story. the whole controversy about the game is centered on a skipable side quest. out side of that it was a fun game.

funny thing though, people say the writing was bad, but bioware writing has been the same since da origins. none of them were better then the other. mid at best. still fun though.

[Vexillarius]

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

This is an old video. To be fair, he (His team, but he's still effectively head editor and approves it after seeing it) had a really positive outlook on games like Concord and especially Veilguard, only to change his mind completely upon release with the full context of the entire game.

Others also had initially positive previews of games like Redfall too.

Basically, previews mean very little than that. It's a preview. Like a trailer to a movie. And likewise, you can't judge the entire movie based on a trailer or preview.

Wait for his and others' proper reviews and actual gamer experience.

He had an extremely negative view of both Veilguard and Concord. If you had bothered to watch either you would know that instead of just talking complete nonsense.

[themadpoet]

Originally posted by nomadpad:

well unlike concord or veilguard, we are getting a lot of gameplay footage, which opinions are being based off. rather trust that over mass hysteria or the negative views of people who haven't played it.

Yeah, they've done a good job showing gameplay early (and adjusting to feedback), better than a lot of companies out there. Everything seems to indicate they're just doing their normal Obsidian thing. No one knew what Veilguard was gonna end up being, with a whole new team in charge and a ten year gap (and being too tone-deaf). It's still Josh Sawyer and Feargus Urquhart (and Tim Cain, part-time) guiding the boat at Obsidian, these are the guys who have been doing this forever. They deserve more trust than this.

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Vexillarius:

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

This is an old video. To be fair, he (His team, but he's still effectively head editor and approves it after seeing it) had a really positive outlook on games like Concord and especially Veilguard, only to change his mind completely upon release with the full context of the entire game.

Others also had initially positive previews of games like Redfall too.

Basically, previews mean very little than that. It's a preview. Like a trailer to a movie. And likewise, you can't judge the entire movie based on a trailer or preview.

Wait for his and others' proper reviews and actual gamer experience.

He had an extremely negative view of both Veilguard and Concord. If you had bothered to watch either you would know that instead of just talking complete nonsense.

See, this is what I mean. His REVIEW of both was negative. Skillup's PREVIEW was very positive, though it wasn't done by him specifically he still saw it and approved it and echoed the commentary that it looked good until he actually got to play it.

You're literally missing the entire point, chad. Way to slap yourself on the face, especially about "speaking nonsense' lmao.

Some people, seriously. Thanks for the free points though.

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by nomadpad:

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

This is an old video. To be fair, he (His team, but he's still effectively head editor and approves it after seeing it) had a really positive outlook on games like Concord and especially Veilguard, only to change his mind completely upon release with the full context of the entire game.

Others also had initially positive previews of games like Redfall too.

Basically, previews mean very little than that. It's a preview. Like a trailer to a movie. And likewise, you can't judge the entire movie based on a trailer or preview.

Wait for his and others' proper reviews and actual gamer experience.

well unlike concord or veilguard, we are getting a lot of gameplay footage, which opinions are being based off. rather trust that over mass hysteria or the negative views of people who haven't played it.

so now the next step is for me to play it and judge it myself. that is all there is ands howe gaming is done. beside veilguard was decent in terms of gameplay and story. the whole controversy about the game is centered on a skipable side quest. out side of that it was a fun game.

funny thing though, people say the writing was bad, but bioware writing has been the same since da origins. none of them were better then the other. mid at best. still fun though.

Both of those games had tons of video and even previews. Concord had an early access event they eventually made openly free to all. Redfall had a raw gameplay preview a month or two early from IGN, which is where ridicule started mounting.

This is insane to say. In fact, there's probably been twice as much Veilguard marketing right now as there has been for Avowed. People are actually criticizing how little marketing it's getting.

[Vexillarius]

Originally posted by Nightmarian:

Originally posted by Vexillarius:

He had an extremely negative view of both Veilguard and Concord. If you had bothered to watch either you would know that instead of just talking complete nonsense.

See, this is what I mean. His REVIEW of both was negative. Skillup's PREVIEW was very positive, though it wasn't done by him specifically he still saw it and approved it and echoed the commentary that it looked good until he actually got to play it.

You're literally missing the entire point, chad. Way to slap yourself on the face, especially about "speaking nonsense' lmao.

Some people, seriously. Thanks for the free points though.

Apologise your were right. Sorry for being a ♥♥♥♥. I didn't see the earlier video and mistook his review for preview but still no excuse.

[themadpoet]

I watched that first gameplay showcase for Veilguard and was extremely "meh" about it. They had thrown some graphics at it but otherwise wasn't impressed. You could already kinda tell the writing wasn't there, especially if that was them trying to show it off.

Avowed, on the other hand, I've watched the showcases multiple times, plus some of the other videos, and I'm like "yeah, that's what I want out of a game." So even if it's objectively a mid game it's probably still near the top of my list at the end of the year. Looking better than Outer Worlds, and even with its flaws I was pretty darn happy with that one.

[Morgrum]

Im holding out hope for outer worlds 2.
It was just so rough to get through the first half of the first one before it got interesting.

[Elenoe]

Originally posted by Vexillarius:

He had an extremely negative view of both Veilguard and Concord. If you had bothered to watch either you would know that instead of just talking complete nonsense.

nah, I personally don't trust him as he was a miss about every game I've seen from him, so I stopped watching.

But he praised combat and team work in combat and story and choices and characters in Veilguard in the same "6-hour preview" or whatever you call it. So nah, pass.

Never trust "previews" anyway. It's just a prefiltered access content.

[zaratan4o]

Originally posted by Elenoe:

Originally posted by Vexillarius:

He had an extremely negative view of both Veilguard and Concord. If you had bothered to watch either you would know that instead of just talking complete nonsense.

nah, I personally don't trust him as he was a miss about every game I've seen from him, so I stopped watching.

But he praised combat and team work in combat and story and choices and characters in Veilguard in the same "6-hour preview" or whatever you call it. So nah, pass.

Never trust "previews" anyway. It's just a prefiltered access content.

Cus they like to go to wherever the wind is blowing. So yeah, not reliable.