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❤️Please respect Obsidian Entertainment❤️
Folks, lets keep it real. Game is not "woke" as your favorite right-wing influencers paint it as.
If it features females or non-standart characters it doesnt mean that its "woke". This is a fiction. This is not real life.


But even if you think its "woke" why would it matter? Obsidian Entertainment made great games like Fallout: New Vegas or South Park: The Stick of Truth. I would support the studio's creative vision for any of their next games.

Remember: Great Games are made by Great Studios.
Последно редактиран от Dankie❤; 12 ян. в 4:04
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Folks, lets keep it real. Game is not "woke" as your favorite right-wing influencers paint it as.
If it features females or non-standart characters it doesnt mean that its "woke". This is a fiction. This is not real life.


But even if you think its "woke" why would it matter? Obsidian Entertainment made great games like Fallout: New Vegas or South Park: The Stick of Truth. I would support the studio's creative vision for any of their next games.

Remember: Great Games are made by Great Studios.
If it's good it's good it doesn't matter if it's woke.

Anti-Woke cancel culture couldn't stop Baldurs Gate 3 they couldn't stop Cyberpunk they couldn't stop Hades they couldn't stop Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and they can't stop Avowed.
Exaclty! They think they have power here yet they don't realize this - you can't stop creativity and freedom of expression.
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Първоначално публикувано от Crazy Alchemy:
If it's good it's good it doesn't matter if it's woke.

Anti-Woke cancel culture couldn't stop Baldurs Gate 3 they couldn't stop Cyberpunk they couldn't stop Hades they couldn't stop Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and they can't stop Avowed.
Exaclty! They think they have power here yet they don't realize this - you can't stop creativity and freedom of expression.
They think they can because bad games flopped, they don't realize bad games flop all the time and it has nothing to do with whether they're woke or not, good games sell whether they're woke or not.
fine, fine, here's your clown award, you filthy beggar!
Several great studios has fallen either to monetization, inability to innovative, losing their identity or for other reasons. In a studio or company people leave and get hired it is seldom the same creature from game to game.

Great games are made by great people. Studios mean nothing.

PS. Wish there was subforums for the discussions page so that you could find threads about what you want instead of being drowned in the noise.
Последно редактиран от Monorea; 20 ян. в 4:29
If they don't respect me i don't see why i should respect them.
Obsidian insulted me multiple times so far.
First i've benn called chud by Matt Hansen and harassed multiple times by Avowed reddit moderators where i got called "racist" and "extremist racist" for no reason whatsoever.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2457220/discussions/0/4638240954399069615/
Последно редактиран от Silaf; 20 ян. в 8:32
this guy really change his whole profile after making a bot post it made him that unstable
Първоначално публикувано от Dankie:
Exaclty! They think they have power here yet they don't realize this - you can't stop creativity and freedom of expression.

Can't stop freedom of expression? The Pro-woke crowd tries to do it all the time, you hypocrite.

It was tried with Stellar Blade, and it's being tried with Marvels Rivals right now.
Последно редактиран от V-Bro - The Titan's Driver; 20 ян. в 8:52
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Първоначално публикувано от DankBober:
Exaclty! They think they have power here yet they don't realize this - you can't stop creativity and freedom of expression.
They think they can because bad games flopped, they don't realize bad games flop all the time and it has nothing to do with whether they're woke or not, good games sell whether they're woke or not.

You seem to really misunderstand the power dynamics in a free market.

The customers int he market have ALL the power because they control the spending. If a game is good, the money will follow, but if it is not then the money will not.

But there are things that can really hurt the perception of whether a game is good or not, and at that point the moment the public perceives a game is trash, regardless of whether or not it actually is, the market will reflect this as well.

Right now we are in a massive cultural pendulum swing as the pendulum is now swinging to the right and at a rapid pace. Anything and everything in the entertainment industry that even has a hint of the type of racial and sexuality pandering that has made up identity politics is going to be under extreme scrutiny and a lot of people will deny the company their money just for its presence alone.

Matt Hansen virtue signaled during the George Floyd riots and the employees at Obsidian (via leaked Slak messages) more or less share his opinions regarding gamers and race, and the CEO is hoping the whole thing will blow over. Well, what was popular 4-6 years ago is now anathema to business and anyone and everyone who pushed it is suffering massive layoffs industry wide. The money is just not there to support it.

So, Obsidian is in a position where their chances of getting their money back is now extremely slim. The game will HAVE to be perfect in nearly every category just to have a chance of overcoming the racism of Matt Hansen and the Obsidian employees.
i do not support rascisme and haters
Първоначално публикувано от Dankie:
Folks, lets keep it real. Game is not "woke" as your favorite right-wing influencers paint it as.
If it features females or non-standart characters it doesnt mean that its "woke". This is a fiction. This is not real life.


But even if you think its "woke" why would it matter? Obsidian Entertainment made great games like Fallout: New Vegas or South Park: The Stick of Truth. I would support the studio's creative vision for any of their next games.

Remember: Great Games are made by Great Studios.

Sounds like the exact same thing that people said about Dragon Age Veilguard.

"It's a famous IP from a 'respected' developer. It gonna be great!" Just ignore everything about the development.
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being great and being commercially successful is not the same
Prey 2017, one of the best games ever was a commercial failure
VTMB one of the best rpgs ever was a commercial failure
Outer worlds, probably the weakest of the latest Obsidian releases, was their commercially strongest game
oh well vampire bloodline was pc exclusive in 2005

i think if it was multiplat and release on steam while ps4, xbox one era it would be commercial sucess
Първоначално публикувано от Silaf:
If they don't respect me i don't see why i should respect them.
Obsidian insulted me multiple times so far.
First i've benn called chud by Matt Hansen and harassed multiple times by Avowed reddit moderators where i got called "racist" and "extremist racist" for no reason whatsoever.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2457220/discussions/0/4638240954399069615/
My take away...It's hard to be a racist on a competently moderated forum...
Първоначално публикувано от Dankie:
Folks, lets keep it real. Game is not "woke" as your favorite right-wing influencers paint it as.
If it features females or non-standart characters it doesnt mean that its "woke". This is a fiction. This is not real life.


But even if you think its "woke" why would it matter? Obsidian Entertainment made great games like Fallout: New Vegas or South Park: The Stick of Truth. I would support the studio's creative vision for any of their next games.

Remember: Great Games are made by Great Studios.

WRONG! XD
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Първоначално публикувано от Dankie:
Folks, lets keep it real. Game is not "woke" as your favorite right-wing influencers paint it as.
If it features females or non-standart characters it doesnt mean that its "woke". This is a fiction. This is not real life.


But even if you think its "woke" why would it matter? Obsidian Entertainment made great games like Fallout: New Vegas or South Park: The Stick of Truth. I would support the studio's creative vision for any of their next games.

Remember: Great Games are made by Great Studios.

Sounds like the exact same thing that people said about Dragon Age Veilguard.

"It's a famous IP from a 'respected' developer. It gonna be great!" Just ignore everything about the development.
Dragon Age Veilguard did great!
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