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N'wah Jones 12 DIC 2024 a las 23:17
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There is no way in hell they aren't seeing all the negative press and push back from consumers about that Fruit Cake art director. Good work guys, maybe they'll fire his racist ass before launch to try and salvage their game. :WH3_greasus_rofl:
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Moonlight Knight 16 DIC 2024 a las 13:51 
Publicado originalmente por Weird, weird...:
Is that 100% true? I can't argue cause I haven't played the game but are you just interpreting an end OR do we really see her going through the trial thing? I'm genuinely curious.

If you don't answer, is anyone in the thread knowing what Knight is referring to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg8DxC8wAo4

We don't see her going through the trial, no, but the implication's there.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
And you won't silence criticism.
Suggesting you spend more time doing the thing you claim to love instead of complaining about parts of it that clearly, by your own words, aren't for you, is not the same thing as silencing criticism.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
How about instead of sitting here on the boards worrying about peoples criticisms, you go play these games that you love so much? See how that works?
Already on my way to, but I look forward to reading that this, too, is a lie, since I went to do so on console instead of Steam, later.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
I mean it is a lie
Projection. In fact you do that a lot. From claiming others have tribalism brain (from your own words you seem incapable of conceiving a reality in which anyone to the left of Trump is capable of being honest), to claiming they have main character syndrome (when you seem to think you're at the forefront of a major movement, and also speak as though your word as a minority is the only one that matters), to claiming they're speaking over others (which you not only do by treating your own word as so all-important, but also I'm sure that a queer disabled mestizo like me has no skin in the game with regards to minority voices in the gaming community).

Anyway, I'm gonna go play some Darktide, at least until my PS5 controller recharges and I can get back to playing FFXIV. Later.
Última edición por Moonlight Knight; 16 DIC 2024 a las 13:54
Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:

Suggesting you spend more time doing the thing you claim to love instead of complaining about parts of it that clearly, by your own words, aren't for you, is not the same thing as silencing criticism.

I mean that's exactly what it is. And we will continue to criticize. Meanwhile you don't seem to be able to take your own advice. Here you are, rather than doing something you claim to love, spending more time worrying about me. lol.

Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
Projection. In fact you do that a lot. From claiming others have tribalism brain (from your own words you seem incapable of conceiving a reality in which anyone to the left of Trump is capable of being honest), to claiming they have main character syndrome (when you seem to think you're at the forefront of a major movement, and also speak as though your word as a minority is the only one that matters), to claiming they're speaking over others (which you not only do by treating your own word as so all-important, but also I'm sure that a queer disabled mestizo like me has no skin in the game with regards to minority voices in the gaming community).

lol it's not projection at all it's just fact. You're so blinded by tribal mentality (Of course you'd have to bring up Trump again for some weird reason) and main character syndrome that you don't realize or care that your ideology does far more harm than it does good. I also don't understand the victim mentality. What does being queer or disabled have anything to do with your assertion that people seeing uglified characters in a game is them just 'spotting woke'??

Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
Anyway, I'm gonna go play some Darktide, at least until my PS5 controller recharges and I can get back to playing FFXIV. Later.

lol if I had a dollar for everytime I've heard this one. I'm sure you'll be back as always spouting the same things over and over again.
Blurp 16 DIC 2024 a las 14:21 
Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
Publicado originalmente por Weird, weird...:
Is that 100% true? I can't argue cause I haven't played the game but are you just interpreting an end OR do we really see her going through the trial thing? I'm genuinely curious.

If you don't answer, is anyone in the thread knowing what Knight is referring to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg8DxC8wAo4

We don't see her going through the trial, no, but the implication's there.

its basically confirmed with her drinking witcher's potion and not dying, those are extremely toxic to normal people
now i dont remember if she was given diluted potion in books or game but maybe? idk, been like 20 years since ive read them
but that could be cdpr bending the lore, Ciri is too old for trials anyway, those have never been done succesfully on adults, something that has to do with still developing body being easier to mutate iirc
Muerte 16 DIC 2024 a las 15:24 
They should monitor reality instead... Once they take off the rainbow colored glasses they might even be able to make a decent game again
Moonlight Knight 16 DIC 2024 a las 16:14 
Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
I mean that's exactly what it is.
Nah, but I understand you have to sensationalize everything in order to look like you have a point.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
I also don't understand the victim mentality. What does being queer or disabled have anything to do with your assertion that people seeing uglified characters in a game is them just 'spotting woke'??
There was no victimhood being alluded to - my point was with regard to your constant speaking as though you're the only minority voice that matters. I'm not some effete coastal white snob like you seem to imagine. I have skin in the game with regard to how things end up, same as you.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
lol if I had a dollar for everytime I've heard this one. I'm sure you'll be back as always spouting the same things over and over again.
Did I claim I was going away forever? I said I was getting tired of this specific conversation. Are you interpreting me saying "this conversation" as "any discussion pertaining to this general topic?" Because when I say "this conversation," I mean "this conversation."
Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
Nah, but I understand you have to sensationalize everything in order to look like you have a point.

lol like I said... he's back. Can't help himself. And nope I just make my point there's no need to sensationalize it like you do.

Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
There was no victimhood being alluded to - my point was with regard to your constant speaking as though you're the only minority voice that matters. I'm not some effete coastal white snob like you seem to imagine. I have skin in the game with regard to how things end up, same as you.

Please again quote where I ever made a claim or insinuated that I was the only minority out there, in fact pretty much every time I speak I am speaking for all minorities who feel as I do. So another blatant lie that you need to do to try and marginalize someone to uplift yourself. Never-minding the fact that doing such a thing was never necessary other than to feel better about whatever insecurities you are dealing with.

Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
Did I claim I was going away forever? I said I was getting tired of this specific conversation. Are you interpreting me saying "this conversation" as "any discussion pertaining to this general topic?" Because when I say "this conversation," I mean "this conversation."

I mean you've claimed to have blocked me, explained how you were done, etc. many times. I mean your post history is right there. But that impulse control must be rough.
Moonlight Knight 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:03 
Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
lol like I said... he's back.
After two hours, yeah.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
Can't help himself. And nope I just make my point there's no need to sensationalize it like you do.
Really just doing the "I'm rubber you're glue" treatment, okay.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
Please again quote where I ever made a claim or insinuated that I was the only minority out there, in fact pretty much every time I speak I am speaking for all minorities who feel as I do. So another blatant lie that you need to do to try and marginalize someone to uplift yourself. Never-minding the fact that doing such a thing was never necessary other than to feel better about whatever insecurities you are dealing with.
I didn't say you made a specific claim, and I never said you claimed you were the only minority out there - my point is that you speak as though your voice is the only one that matters, or else that every black person agrees with you. Your conversation with Fry (I can't remember his exact username) in particular comes to mind.

There is no attempt to marginalize someone to uplift myself here. The point is simply that I'm not just some random whitey trying to talk over minorities, I am one myself. To say nothing of the fact that much of what I have to say about black opinions I hear from black creators and black friends in the first place. Passing along what you hear is not the same thing as speaking over or speaking for others.

Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
I mean you've claimed to have blocked me, explained how you were done, etc. many times. I mean your post history is right there. But that impulse control must be rough.
Says the guy who kept baiting me with crap like "he won't respond to me because he knows I'll beat him." Very mature and definitely not the words of someone whose head I live in rent-free.
Avatar of Prince Cera (Bloqueado) 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:10 
Dang. This woke thing has gotten so out of hand that even Anti-wokes are doing DEI recruitment.

Sad that anti-wokes are so desperate for relevance that they would stoop to tokenism to pad their numbers.

Hopefully they are at least compensating their DEI recruits well, but based on their track record, I doubt it.
Quillithe 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:12 
Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
Publicado originalmente por Vixziค็็็็็n:
I mean you've claimed to have blocked me, explained how you were done, etc. many times. I mean your post history is right there. But that impulse control must be rough.
Says the guy who kept baiting me with crap like "he won't respond to me because he knows I'll beat him." Very mature and definitely not the words of someone whose head I live in rent-free.
lol yeah, look at how upset he gets at me for not wanting to waste my time on him in this very thread :steamhappy:
H-Foundry PIXIV 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:16 
Publicado originalmente por Quillithe:
The point is that games will suddenly become 'not woke' the moment people want to play them, in order to protect the narrative that 'woke' games don't sell.
That only works if the game is woke and they decide it's not because they like it. That would make them hypocrites. In the case of Space Marine 2, all that happened was some people thought it was woke, complained, game turned out it wasn't.

Publicado originalmente por Quillithe:
Ah yes, just like Space Marine 2 was 'cooked' because developers 'hated white men'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjOFQWfVUmQ
Oh, wait
Not 'the dev', the dev has outspoken later on showing it's not one and the same. And the left has attacked SM2 later. Far from identicle situations.

Heres what what the hit pieces from the left said about SM2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVBkhRvORUo&t=33s

Publicado originalmente por Quillithe:
Obsidian has nothing to gain from employees diving into the culture war, so they're not going to address this one way or another and they're going to stick to the game.
Not punishing an employee for racism looks like they're just trying to see if anything actually happens legally. And signals they're protecting him and share his views. He just said they quiet part out loud.
Última edición por H-Foundry PIXIV; 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:19
Moonlight Knight 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:20 
Publicado originalmente por H-Foundry PIXIV:
Not 'the dev', the dev has outspoken later on. And the left has attacked SM2.
When you say "the left" do you mean games journalists, or people on twitter, or what? At least here on Steam most of the people on the left were defending Space Marine 2 from anti-wokes until the game actually dropped and blasted their predictions out of the water.

Publicado originalmente por H-Foundry PIXIV:
Not punishing an employee for racism looks like they're just trying to see if anything actually happens legally. And signals they're protecting him and share his views. He just said they quiet part out loud.
He offered job advice and portfolio reviews. No promises were made to hire anyone. He wasn't even speaking about Obsidian, but more broadly "this field," as in art direction as a job. The likelihood of legal consequences isn't zero, I'm sure, but it looks pretty slim.
Última edición por Moonlight Knight; 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:30
Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
After two hours, yeah.
LMAO



Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
I didn't say you made a specific claim, and I never said you claimed you were the only minority out there - my point is that you speak as though your voice is the only one that matters, or else that every black person agrees with you. Your conversation with Fry (I can't remember his exact username) in particular comes to mind.

Which is a lie. What you make up in your own head isn't the truth sorry buddy. And every black person who thinks as I do, and believe me there's a lot, is who I am a representative of.

The good ol "My black friends"... lol youre supposed black friends do not represent my group especially considering who my family is so stop not to mention I haven't seen you on any of our socials of course..... lol It's sad at this point. "They not like us"

It's funny that you refer to yourself as 'random whitey'... you know that the only people we think of that way are people who try to tell us what we should and shouldn't be offended by and who think they are white knighting for us. Black creators such as those from Sweet Baby do not represent us, they too are pandering. "They not like us"

Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
Says the guy who kept baiting me with crap like "he won't respond to me because he knows I'll beat him." Very mature and definitely not the words of someone whose head I live in rent-free.

LOL Oh now you were baited, back to the victim mentality thing again. I stated a fact and that fact still remains. But you keep trying and failing but hey everyone needs a hobby I guess.
Última edición por Vixziค็็็็็n; 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:35
H-Foundry PIXIV 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:37 
Publicado originalmente por Moonlight Knight:
When you say "the left" do you mean games journalists, or people on twitter, or what?
Did you miss the link there.

Publicado originalmente por H-Foundry PIXIV:
At least here on Steam most of the people on the left were defending Space Marine 2 from anti-wokes until the game actually dropped and blasted their predictions out of the water.
I didn't see much or any of that lol. I didn't see anyone on the left go against the hit piece shown in the link.

Publicado originalmente por H-Foundry PIXIV:
He offered job advice and portfolio reviews. No promises were made to hire anyone. He wasn't even speaking about Obsidian, but more broadly "this field," as in art direction as a job. The likelihood of legal consequences isn't zero, I'm sure, but it looks pretty slim.
Nope. Go read it, someone tried to defend it before and couldn't.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2457220/discussions/0/604141990686233854/#c604141990686250592

That’s considered illegal in the country he lives in. You aren’t allowed to offer hiring advantages to others based on their race, religion, sex, age, etc. The US has anti-discrimination laws in place to hopefully prevent that, has for decades.
Última edición por H-Foundry PIXIV; 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:39
H-Foundry PIXIV 16 DIC 2024 a las 18:39 
Publicado originalmente por Weird, weird...:
make her hunt monsters thanks to her epic powers BUT don't find some weird way to imply that she totally did drink the kool aid (pun intended).
They can't help themselves with trying to flip everything when there are easy paths out of it. Reminds me when they tried to say "female custodies were always a thing" etc. Heck we just have to look at the twitter edit wars, where shills tried to paint one picture against the more rational side. This was over Yasuke AkTuAlLy being a real samurai. A history they tried to massage into high possibility, and getting a shill in Japan to write some hack book then reference back to that book as evidence about Yasuke in their own articles. The shilling to create a believable narattive was so bad the Japanese government got involved because they were taking liberties with actual history.

These are the type of people with an activist mindset and also well-funded. So we know what lengths they're prepared to go.
Publicado originalmente por H-Foundry PIXIV:
Publicado originalmente por Weird, weird...:
make her hunt monsters thanks to her epic powers BUT don't find some weird way to imply that she totally did drink the kool aid (pun intended).
They can't help themselves with trying to flip everything when there are easy paths out of it. Reminds me when they tried to say "female custodies were always a thing" etc. Heck we just have to look at the twitter edit wars, where shills tried to paint one picture against the more rational side. This was over Yasuke AkTuAlLy being a real samurai. A history they tried to massage into high possibility, and getting a shill in Japan to write some hack book then reference back to that book as evidence about Yasuke in their own articles. The shilling to create a believable narattive was so bad the Japanese government got involved because they were taking liberties with actual history.

These are the type of people with an activist mindset and also well-funded. So we know what lengths they're prepared to go.

Exactly. Anything for the agenda. I need a meme where it's Paris of Troy labelled as DEI running away from Menelaus (everyman) to hide at the feet of Hector (Virtue) while the woke sit behind the walls and the anti-woke get ready to storm the city.
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