Oblivion a 2006 game is better than Avowed and I AM SHCOKED!

[RetroMania]

I just now saw a video on YouTube someone comparing the old WRPG classic Oblivion from 2006 with Avowed and I am absolutely shocked! Oblivion has better physics, better AI be it enemy AI or the guards, it has better dialog and writing and with visual mods you can make that 2006 game look like a 2025 game. The fact that people still defend Avowed is insane, we should definitely hold these devs accountable for giving us less polish and quality while raising the prices of these games.

I absolutely recommend everyone to type on YouTube right now; Avowed vs Oblivion and get shocked where we are right now, gaming is not evolving is devolving. If after all of that you still choose to buy the game that's fine is your money after all but you should at least watch the video and see the state of the 2025 western AAA video game industry if you after that press the purchase button you are part of the problem, I can't force you not to buy it but I can inform you before you press that purchase button, cheers.

[Inflammatory]

tapping the "avowed is not trying to be an elder scrolls game" sign once again

[BaTHoRy]

Not a fair comparison, developers were talented back than.

[Ele]

That's because talent was replaced with DEI hires. Really sad actually.

[GetUrAssToMars]

Originally posted by Inflammatory:

tapping the "avowed is not trying to be an elder scrolls game" sign once again

You're lying to yourself.

[Inflammatory]

then i guess the devs were too when they said multiple times that they weren't trying to make skyrim.

[MrFoxhound]

Originally posted by RetroMania:

I just now saw a video on YouTube someone comparing the old WRPG classic Oblivion from 2006 with Avowed and I am absolutely shocked! Oblivion has better physics, better AI be it enemy AI or the guards, it has better dialog and writing and with visual mods you can make that 2006 game look like a 2025 game. The fact that people still defend Avowed is insane, we should definitely hold these devs accountable for giving us less polish and quality while raising the prices of these games.

I absolutely recommend everyone to type on YouTube right now; Avowed vs Oblivion and get shocked where we are right now, gaming is not evolving is devolving. If after all of that you still choose to buy the game that's fine is your money after all but you should at least watch the video and see the state of the 2025 western AAA video game industry if you after that press the purchase button you are part of the problem, I can't force you not to buy it but I can inform you before you press that purchase button, cheers.

Well, I mean, Oblivion is one of the best games of all time! (Yes, I really feel that way. I have replayed Oblivion hundreds of times and have done several no fast travel playthroughs of that masterpiece).

[GetUrAssToMars]

Originally posted by Inflammatory:

then i guess the devs were too when they said multiple times that they weren't trying to make skyrim.

Oh yah they started backtracking when they realized they couldn't.

https://www.pcgamer.com/avowed-open-world-skyrim-rpg-size/

My next question is: where's the depth then?

I honestly don't dislike feargus but he's been sweeping up messes like this since the black isle days.

[FearAndLoathing]

As soon as someone says their view is based on watching something else play on youtube i know whatever they are going to say is complete trollbait.

[Label07]

Sadly Bethesda has stuck to what worked back in 2006 through today. People have caught on and are not impressed. Not to mention they probably were using their junk Creation engine back then and again, still using it today.

Bethesda is extremely overrated. Skyrim is lauded as a GREAT game yet I doubt most people that bought it (myself included) have yet to finish the game.

When Obsidian was contracted to make a game in the Fallout universe, they made a better product (Fallout New Vegas), off by a few points on metacritic and Bethesda was likely annoyed a different studio outdid them decided to not do the right thing and even though legally they weren't contractually obligated to give them the bonus even though they were so close, they chose not to.

[FearAndLoathing]

Originally posted by RORSCHACH:

That's because talent was replaced with DEI hires. Really sad actually.

DEI hires apparently the only reason planes weren't crashing. Bring them back.

[RetroMania]

Originally posted by FearAndLoathing:

As soon as someone says their view is based on watching something else play on youtube i know whatever they are going to say is complete trollbait.

What? Videos who record these differences are actually very useful. Sure you could buy Avowed give them your money and then play first Avowed try the games NPC AI, physics, experience the dialog and story and then launch Oblivion and see the differences but that's a lot of time and work and you are buying the game. On YouTube someone already did the job and is much easier to see how big of a difference there is once you see them side by side rather than launching the game and wait for the intro, load the save file and do it yourself, quit the game, launch the other game and do the same... just saying.

[Danoobiel]

Oblivion was hot thrash.

Morrowind was easily 10 times better.

[Amaterasu]

Obliviion is the worst Elder Scrolls Game. So... any game is better than it.

[AdahnGorion]

You have to remember this game only had a 80000000$ budget.
Making non static walking or routine based AI or physics... would cost a studio like this 450000000$ atleast.

[dustin1280]

vanilla Oblivion was the worst elders scrolls game ever released...
Morrowind is legendary and they somewhat redeemed themselves with Skyrim....

But even Daggerfall was amazing when it was released...