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bayomaycry Feb 17 @ 7:36pm
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what are some actual complaints you have against the game?
no, ' it's woke! ' is not a valid argument.
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Game breaking bugs, ugly character design ,bad performance, mediocre story,slow looking combat,bad animations.etc thats the main complaints I've seen on here some are pronouns that breaks immersion as well as lack of meaningful choices.
bayomaycry Feb 17 @ 8:01pm 
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Originally posted by Netherwisp:
Game breaking bugs, ugly character design ,bad performance, mediocre story,slow looking combat,bad animations.etc thats the main complaints I've seen on here some are pronouns that breaks immersion as well as lack of meaningful choices.


all valid except the pronouns that break immersion. not sure how that breaks immersion seeing as if you play as a male in a game the game refers to you as male, or female as female, etc etc. nonbinary has also existed, too. look at legion from mass effect. they're called '' they '' and '' them. ''

also, there's a toggle.
Originally posted by bayomaycry:
Originally posted by Netherwisp:
Game breaking bugs, ugly character design ,bad performance, mediocre story,slow looking combat,bad animations.etc thats the main complaints I've seen on here some are pronouns that breaks immersion as well as lack of meaningful choices.


all valid except the pronouns that break immersion. not sure how that breaks immersion seeing as if you play as a male in a game the game refers to you as male, or female as female, etc etc. nonbinary has also existed, too. look at legion from mass effect. they're called '' they '' and '' them. ''
Its because in mas effect legion was like 1000 souls occupying a single vessel it had a lore reason behind it and wasn't put in to placate non binary people
My PC can´t run it so I have to rely on consoles, and I don´t get that invested when playing with consoles. Just a me thing obviously.

I also wish melee combat was better, although I´m not pulling my hair over it since I wasn´t a fan of the melee combat of most similar games.

Not a fan of the writting, I don´t hate it but I find myself ignoring it sometimes.

While I don´t think entering a town and murdering everyone should be a requierement, since you could in The outerworlds feels weird this one doesn´t allow it. Then again this one isn´t as much of a sandbox as it´s very narrative heavy and telling a focused story.

And just to make it clear, I wouldn´t call any game "woke" nor do I use that word other than to mock it, this fake outrage it´s pointless and helps nobody. Don´t care there´s an option for pronoums, more powers to the players that want them even if they trully are such a minuscule portion of population it´s also such a minuscule thing that doesn´t affect the game in any way. I want all games to be good for someone, I want gaming to be a thing anyone can approach and find something they like, if someone doesn´t like this game enough for valid reasons that´s good and dandy... the bigotry we have seen in these forum though, not cool, and seems to have being very vicious on this one (I guess mostly the Matt Hasen stuff, as usual the defenders of "freedom of speech" think a person should be publicly humilliated and fired from everywhere just cause they made a weird joke mentioning being a white person which he happens to be). Thankfully I think the success of the game even before officially launching will go clearing the area of tourists, and some of the ones that actually play games are actually buying it and accepting some of those "woke" elements and claiming it´s not such a big deal and the game scratch the action adventure RPG nitch, so even some "anti-wokers" seem to be moving on away from the noise and just making their own oppinions despite their biases.
Originally posted by Netherwisp:
Originally posted by bayomaycry:


all valid except the pronouns that break immersion. not sure how that breaks immersion seeing as if you play as a male in a game the game refers to you as male, or female as female, etc etc. nonbinary has also existed, too. look at legion from mass effect. they're called '' they '' and '' them. ''
Its because in mas effect legion was like 1000 souls occupying a single vessel it had a lore reason behind it and wasn't put in to placate non binary people


it doesn't really change the fact they still go by they / them though does it
I wish enemies could be interrupted with normal attacks, If you are playing a melee build enemies can hit you despite your attacks hitting first, a minor stagger would have been good. I understand they put it on Stun mechanic. However Stun and Stagger are two different things. Your Freeze spell is pretty much another Stun move and the Entagle spell has no use for a melee build because they can still attack you while entangled. Maybe later on there is something im only 25 hours into Dawnshore.
Originally posted by Space is the Place:
My PC can´t run it so I have to rely on consoles, and I don´t get that invested when playing with consoles. Just a me thing obviously.

I also wish melee combat was better, although I´m not pulling my hair over it since I wasn´t a fan of the melee combat of most similar games.

Not a fan of the writting, I don´t hate it but I find myself ignoring it sometimes.

While I don´t think entering a town and murdering everyone should be a requierement, since you could in The outerworlds feels weird this one doesn´t allow it. Then again this one isn´t as much of a sandbox as it´s very narrative heavy and telling a focused story.

And just to make it clear, I wouldn´t call any game "woke" nor do I use that word other than to mock it, this fake outrage it´s pointless and helps nobody. Don´t care there´s an option for pronoums, more powers to the players that want them even if they trully are such a minuscule portion of population it´s also such a minuscule thing that doesn´t affect the game in any way. I want all games to be good for someone, I want gaming to be a thing anyone can approach and find something they like, if someone doesn´t like this game enough for valid reasons that´s good and dandy... the bigotry we have seen in these forum though, not cool, and seems to have being very vicious on this one (I guess mostly the Matt Hasen stuff, as usual the defenders of "freedom of speech" think a person should be publicly humilliated and fired from everywhere just cause they made a weird joke mentioning being a white person which he happens to be). Thankfully I think the success of the game even before officially launching will go clearing the area of tourists, and some of the ones that actually play games are actually buying it and accepting some of those "woke" elements and claiming it´s not such a big deal and the game scratch the action adventure RPG nitch, so even some "anti-wokers" seem to be moving on away from the noise and just making their own oppinions despite their biases.


a lot of games nowdays seem to be poorly optimized for PC at least at launch. but the game isn't out yet... maybe there'll be an update, who knows.

all valid reasons though!
Originally posted by zack0niel:
I wish enemies could be interrupted with normal attacks, If you are playing a melee build enemies can hit you despite your attacks hitting first, a minor stagger would have been good. I understand they put it on Stun mechanic. However Stun and Stagger are two different things. Your Freeze spell is pretty much another Stun move and the Entagle spell has no use for a melee build because they can still attack you while entangled. Maybe later on there is something im only 25 hours into Dawnshore.


i never liked games that do that. like nioh, or xenoblade. where you have to do a specific thing to make an enemy actually be able to be damaged. assuming that's what it is-
Originally posted by Weird, weird...:
Originally posted by bayomaycry:
no, ' it's woke! ' is not a valid argument.
The bugs reported by several reviewers + low FPS + price tag.

Obsidian is like a... 2.5A studio imo. Not AAA.


i think if your game actually has a lot of content and has great repeatability its worth the price tag.

unfortunately obsidian seemed to do what they did with the outer worlds and make it a short game. but maybe there'll be dlc. outer worlds got it and for the most part i liked them.
Bonnie Feb 17 @ 8:23pm 
Not a complaint, but the ability to manage companion's gears while adventurering
Originally posted by Bonnie:
Not a complaint, but the ability to manage companion's gears while adventurering


so like putting armor/weapons on them?
Originally posted by bayomaycry:
a lot of games nowdays seem to be poorly optimized for PC at least at launch. but the game isn't out yet... maybe there'll be an update, who knows.

Oh nono, sorry if I mispoked. My PC can´t run it cause it doesn´t meet the requierements hehehe, old potato toaster. No idea about the game optimization, but yes if some folks have issues I´m sure patches will be something the devs may even be working as we speak before official launch.
Originally posted by bayomaycry:
Originally posted by Netherwisp:
Game breaking bugs, ugly character design ,bad performance, mediocre story,slow looking combat,bad animations.etc thats the main complaints I've seen on here some are pronouns that breaks immersion as well as lack of meaningful choices.


all valid except the pronouns that break immersion. not sure how that breaks immersion seeing as if you play as a male in a game the game refers to you as male, or female as female, etc etc. nonbinary has also existed, too. look at legion from mass effect. they're called '' they '' and '' them. ''

also, there's a toggle.
legion mentioned so i have to fix this. Legion is refereed to as they because it is geth and geth is not a single being but many who share a single database. its something between a hive mind and multiple individual entities but one platform can have multiple geth in them. imagine a small country running one single body. that is why they code named him legion and yes, Shepard and the rest of the crew did often refer to legion as a male, expecially when legion sacrificed his own individual self to evolved the rest of the geth to become fully sentient beings.
Paz Feb 17 @ 9:21pm 
Originally posted by bayomaycry:
Originally posted by Netherwisp:
Game breaking bugs, ugly character design ,bad performance, mediocre story,slow looking combat,bad animations.etc thats the main complaints I've seen on here some are pronouns that breaks immersion as well as lack of meaningful choices.


all valid except the pronouns that break immersion. not sure how that breaks immersion seeing as if you play as a male in a game the game refers to you as male, or female as female, etc etc. nonbinary has also existed, too. look at legion from mass effect. they're called '' they '' and '' them. ''

also, there's a toggle.
Nah its valid and very immersion breaking. Hope this helps
Originally posted by Paz:
Originally posted by bayomaycry:


all valid except the pronouns that break immersion. not sure how that breaks immersion seeing as if you play as a male in a game the game refers to you as male, or female as female, etc etc. nonbinary has also existed, too. look at legion from mass effect. they're called '' they '' and '' them. ''

also, there's a toggle.
Nah its valid and very immersion breaking. Hope this helps


and you are free to have that opinion.
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