so do we just live with this mindset now?

[bayomaycry]

that if a singleplayer game doesn't have like, a hundred thousand or more players in a week ( even if its early access ) that it's deemed a failure?

because if so, that's stupid as hell lol.

[Xafron Chi]

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

Originally posted by Xafron Chi:

Considering people had to pay $90 to play early, the numbers right now aren't indicative of much.

i wouldn't pay 90$ for a 30 hour game either
but i do like what i've seen
however im more excited for outer worlds 2

I didn't realize it was that short. Kind of funny people are calling it "Obsidian's Skyrim" then considering how much bigger Skyrim is.

Personally I also don't like that Avowed doesn't let you pick a race. Pillars of Eternity lets you play as humans, elves, dwarves, aumaua, orlan, and godlike. And this game locks you into godlike. I believe it was for story reasons but still sucks.

Looks fun honestly, but I'll wait for a sale probably.

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by Trilkin:

Depends on how much money the game cost to make. If it was a big budget title, simultaneous player count in its opening weeks is a fairly good indicator of a game's general success. Yes, you can argue 'but there are multiple storefronts other than Steam to buy it from,' but it remains a good indicator on how well a game is doing.

Avowed took a while and was expensive to make. Its presentation doesn't really have much to show for it so first impressions are lukewarm.

There's also the imaginary culture war nonsense that's going on against everything where you can pick a pronoun, has black people in it that aren't stereotypes, or has women in a (non-sexual) position of power, so there's that entire group of weirdos loudly trying to get people not to play the games that offend them. Those people are going to focus hardest on player counts.

The real issue is that Avowed just doesn't do anything amazing. It's a game that exists. If you've played any Bethesda game in the past two decades, you've played this game. The most interesting part of this game is the combat, and building your character tends to be more complicated than Bethesda slop. It tries to strike a middle line between a traditional isometric CRPG and open world Bethesda games. It does this Perfectly Fine. For $70, though, people want more than Perfectly Fine and understandably so. This is an expensive game, but it feels like a studio's mid-budget title. That fact is more likely to push people away than any of the above stuff.

..wait, do people *want* black people that are sterotypes?

[hush]

I for one, will not contribute to the steam numbers anytime soon. I'll be playing it on gamepass.

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by RealityGx:

bayomaycry was a good name for you, since you cry

it's a combination of devil may cry and bayonetta, but nice attempt <3

[Kain]

I think it's wishfull thinking. People want it to fail because they believe it represents a threat to them. Like check the hate boner people have for the upcoming AssCreed despite pre-orders being solid and previous games being financial successful.

Not going to say will be a winner, honestly I think this game is doing fine at most. But I would be able extremely skeptical about anyone stating anything as a fact.

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

about as mature as those who spend hours upon hours in a thread calling a game woke despite owning and playing woke games

maybe they dont like this forced ideology in their games

if you're anti-woke but play red dead 2 you're not anti-woke lol

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by hush:

I for one, will not contribute to the steam numbers anytime soon. I'll be playing it on gamepass.

epic

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

Originally posted by RealityGx:

bayomaycry was a good name for you, since you cry

it's a combination of devil may cry and bayonetta, but nice attempt <3

The joke was about that yeah, I indeed thought it was related to DMC

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by Kain:

I think it's wishfull thinking. People want it to fail because they believe it represents a threat to them. Like check the hate boner people have for the upcoming AssCreed despite pre-orders being solid and previous games being financial successful.

Not going to say will be a winner, honestly I think this game is doing fine at most. But I would be able extremely skeptical about anyone stating anything as a fact.

i think, personally, ac shadows looks amazing. it's got a lot i want in it. that's all that matters to me. :)

i think avowed will do fine too, yeah. maybe it'll get dlc too. like i said, im more interested in the outer worlds. i just find it funny how i see talk like this *everywhere* lately.

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by RealityGx:

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

it's a combination of devil may cry and bayonetta, but nice attempt <3

The joke was about that yeah, I indeed thought it was related to DMC

jokes normally have to be understood to be funny though

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

Originally posted by RealityGx:

The joke was about that yeah, I indeed thought it was related to DMC

jokes normally have to be understood to be funny though

If you don't get that it's that you're too autistic for simple jokes

[RealityGx]

But to answer the topic : yes we have this mindset, 1st day not even 10k players worldwide, it's a failure so far

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by RealityGx:

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

jokes normally have to be understood to be funny though

If you don't get that it's that you're too autistic for simple jokes

no i get jokes but i don't think you were joking

[bayomaycry]

Originally posted by RealityGx:

But to answer the topic : yes we have this mindset, 1st day not even 10k players worldwide, it's a failure so far

and if you say so surely it must be so

[bayomaycry]

the game isnt out yet btw