Avowed Is A Shallow Experience Claims TheGamer review

[AdahnGorion]

When you say a game is ‘unfinished’, it conjures up very specific images. Ones filled with flat textures, blank NPC faces, clipping through walls and floors, and a general bugginess blockading your every move. Despite Avowed director Carrie Patel warning players of “jank”, this is not the way Avowed is unfinished. It is unfinished on a deeper, and unfortunately far less fixable, level than simply needing a couple of weeks to work out the kinks.

Every avenue you explore in Avowed feels like a dead end. It’s a game that strives for a depth it cannot achieve, but has overcommitted to that depth. At one point I spoke with a council, and both members were dismissive of my plan.. Privately, one of them found me afterwards to admit it was a ruse and plot against the other. I told the other and… she didn’t believe me. Nothing changed, it was the illusion of role-playing inside a set narrative. Another time I had no choice but to fight characters marked as ‘Desperate Smugglers’ before reaching the top of their camp and discovering these smugglers were desperate, at which point I had the option - which was really an obligation - to help them instead. There are dozens of examples of this, big and small, across Avowed.

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[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Kain:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

This is in no way close to PoE.... PoE is an cRPG.... This game is an Action Adventure.... they basically have no similarities outside being set in the same universe.
As for ES.. I disagree.. mainly because ES games have more freedom (agency) and exploration on larger scale (openworld)

This game is instances, have a set story and not much agency involved.
Overall its your classic action adventure.. with that said, I understand why some people like this type of games and that the vertical exploration (even if its obviously and prett yset) can be fun.

One thing I have noticed, is how much some of the art style is alike to Veilguard. If you look closely, they share some assets (that might have minor changes) like chest, colourschemes. brightness, designs of buildings, etc.

It makes me think, that they are using standard assets without much change.. But then again both games had very inexperiences staff, so this might have been training games for them more than anything.

Exactly it's an action adventure with some RPG elements. I guess people were expecting more out of Obsidian and I get it. But this is not that sort of game I'm afraid.

It's more like a bigger Dreadful Delusion and the like. As for the set style I like it, at least for the environment and some creatures, it does seem to be following that cartoony trend so many others do.

I think most people that researched this game new that it would be an Action Adventure.
Granted that the first announcement trailer had people lured into believing it was a darker setting with more RPG elements (full blown aRPG)

Just look at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3QkO8fy3tg

That is in high contrast to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnW9dMo9RE


They almost look like two different games.. most likely because they are.
I am sure that the direction of this game was dictated by MS to move into the Console Centric Action Adventure spectrum with more focus on bright colours, hero aspect (no agency, only being good) and so forth.

[Kain]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by Kain:

Exactly it's an action adventure with some RPG elements. I guess people were expecting more out of Obsidian and I get it. But this is not that sort of game I'm afraid.

It's more like a bigger Dreadful Delusion and the like. As for the set style I like it, at least for the environment and some creatures, it does seem to be following that cartoony trend so many others do.

I think most people that researched this game new that it would be an Action Adventure.
Granted that the first announcement trailer had people lured into believing it was a darker setting with more RPG elements (full blown aRPG)

Just look at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3QkO8fy3tg

That is in high contrast to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnW9dMo9RE


They almost look like two different games.. most likely because they are.
I am sure that the direction of this game was dictated by MS to move into the Console Centric Action Adventure spectrum with more focus on bright colours, hero aspect (no agency, only being good) and so forth.

Yes. I've been discussing with some people that it seems no one knew exactly what to expect. And yes, they did know it was an action RPG, but maybe I expected MORE rpg out of their pedigree. Not PoE first person but if what all ive seen is true it feels very linear, sort of like Kingdoms of Amalur, with some choices that have limited consequences.

And given the setting of the first PoE I sort of expected something darker too, but even last year I realized they were going through that route since everything was too colorful.

[goodgame]

The gameplay has 0 feedback, 0 hitstun, 0 hitstop, it's incredibly dull and uninteresting you feel like you are going to fall asleep at every npc's impossibly long and boring dialog, nothing retains your attention in this game.

Even the godess herself talking to you cannot keep the character model from being in a therapy session and falling asleep for how boring the game is. It's incredible how technically poor the combat is too.

Let's not even talk about all the dev team diversity hire inserts that populate the game and every fantasy race is black and very dark shades of brown, also, lizard people and lizardmens , snakemens with vitiligo everywhere, a condition that infects probably less then 0.05% of the population being extremely over represented, this is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ funnybad man.

You normies really deserve this slop and revel in these sh.i.t.game it like little piggies happy that you get to play and eat sh.l.t at every turn because developpers love to spread their bottoms right over your mouth and you swallow it all in glee. Destroying all the industry's standards in the process to let them make extremely mediocre and uninspired games.
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[goodgame]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by AngelofChaos707:

Yeah i dont really like the big sites. My views usually don't align with them. I cant wait to play this 4 hours LETS GO BABY!!!

There are abit of everything in the reviews.
What I can see is.

1. This is not really a deep RPG
2. Gameplay is fun if you like Action Adventure style
3. Pillers of Eternity fans will be disappointed, but if you like number 2 you are good
4. Its buggy, janky, etc.
5. Gameplay is the main aspect of this one, not story or interactions.

It all depends on whom you are.. I want more RPG centric games, so I did good by holding off, dispite liking Pillars of Eternity. But on the otherhand, this seems more enjoyable then many would suggest, if you like the gameplay presented.

I hope you get to enjoy the game and have many hours of fun.

Too bad the gameplay is f o. o. k.ing trash and is absolutely neutered from any feedback, no recoil, no feel for swings, melee is an afterhought and absolutely mediocre, guns have 0 recoil / feedback, ennemies are never hitstop, or stunned, with charged attacks, ennemies flash red but never stop their animation, because there is 0 attempt at feedback from the monster about hits , hitstops, stuns, animations stop , there is 0 player crowd control or flow control over the combat when more then 2 ennemeis pops up / fight you. thus it has close to no tactical action fps rpg element to help you approach combat differently. it's BOOOOring, and it's just mashing the same buttons all over again until the spongey lifebars are empty.

[Kain]

Most stable steam user.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Kain:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

I think most people that researched this game new that it would be an Action Adventure.
Granted that the first announcement trailer had people lured into believing it was a darker setting with more RPG elements (full blown aRPG)

Just look at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3QkO8fy3tg

That is in high contrast to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnW9dMo9RE


They almost look like two different games.. most likely because they are.
I am sure that the direction of this game was dictated by MS to move into the Console Centric Action Adventure spectrum with more focus on bright colours, hero aspect (no agency, only being good) and so forth.

Yes. I've been discussing with some people that it seems no one knew exactly what to expect. And yes, they did know it was an action RPG, but maybe I expected MORE rpg out of their pedigree. Not PoE first person but if what all ive seen is true it feels very linear, sort of like Kingdoms of Amalur, with some choices that have limited consequences.

And given the setting of the first PoE I sort of expected something darker too, but even last year I realized they were going through that route since everything was too colorful.

I think lots of people could have accepted an aRPG unless it was extremely watered down.
But most RPG fans just don´t want a console centric Action Adventure with very light RPG elements... but then again.. this showcase that PC players are not really a priorty, but instead Console players are.

PC players will support more PC centric games.. Take KC:D2. That game is PC centric, so was BG3 and CP2077.. Wonder why they were more popular on steam than ie. console centric games like Starfield and Veilguard? well because they cater to different audiences.

[Kain]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by Kain:

Yes. I've been discussing with some people that it seems no one knew exactly what to expect. And yes, they did know it was an action RPG, but maybe I expected MORE rpg out of their pedigree. Not PoE first person but if what all ive seen is true it feels very linear, sort of like Kingdoms of Amalur, with some choices that have limited consequences.

And given the setting of the first PoE I sort of expected something darker too, but even last year I realized they were going through that route since everything was too colorful.

I think lots of people could have accepted an aRPG unless it was extremely watered down.
But most RPG fans just don´t want a console centric Action Adventure with very light RPG elements... but then again.. this showcase that PC players are not really a priorty, but instead Console players are.

PC players will support more PC centric games.. Take KC:D2. That game is PC centric, so was BG3 and CP2077.. Wonder why they were more popular on steam than ie. console centric games like Starfield and Veilguard? well because they cater to different audiences.

Makes sense. I might end up getting this game in the end. But yeah, I know that New Vegas this isn't in terms of role-playing .

Probably will wait until the dlcs are all out though, or it's more patched up. Hopefully it will have some mod support too.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Kain:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

I think lots of people could have accepted an aRPG unless it was extremely watered down.
But most RPG fans just don´t want a console centric Action Adventure with very light RPG elements... but then again.. this showcase that PC players are not really a priorty, but instead Console players are.

PC players will support more PC centric games.. Take KC:D2. That game is PC centric, so was BG3 and CP2077.. Wonder why they were more popular on steam than ie. console centric games like Starfield and Veilguard? well because they cater to different audiences.

Makes sense. I might end up getting this game in the end. But yeah, I know that New Vegas this isn't in terms of role-playing .

Probably will wait until the dlcs are all out though, or it's more patched up. Hopefully it will have some mod support too.

I can fully understand that some will get this on a bargain later on, but I already know it wont be for me, so even if I gave it a chance, the risk of having a bad time is to high.. There is also way to many alternatives and a backlog.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Thank you for providing a source.
When debating I think its vital to have sources or atleast some logic why stating arguments.

This is no surprise ofc.. we all know the old issues from ie. Gamespot and IGN with paid reviews and fired employee´s

No problem. Happy to help.

One of the biggest things I firmly believe in and know to be true is that the person who makes the statement is the one who backs it up. I was the first person to bring up IGN plagiarizing reviews so I took it upon myself to back it up.

I fully agree with that.
Thank you for doing so.

Then again I think most people dislike the big game journo sites.

[General Pequeno]

Everything I have seen is very mixed

[Gravity]

from what ive seen, its a generic RPG with some fun some static elements and a dead but beautiful world. Not something worth 20 bucks much less 70.

I havent played it, just read about it.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by General Pequeno:

Everything I have seen is very mixed

Indeed. That is the most common response to the game.

[Jeffer'son Airship]

It honestly seems a lot like Outer Worlds. It's a decent RPG but nothing at all groundbreaking.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Gravity:

from what ive seen, its a generic RPG with some fun some static elements and a dead but beautiful world. Not something worth 20 bucks much less 70.

I havent played it, just read about it.

It is a generic Action Adventure with very light RPG elements.
I don´t understand why people think its an RPG.

[Videogame Jukebox]

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