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Silaf Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:22am
XBox REFUSING Review Codes For Avowed to honest journalists
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Moonlight Knight Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:27am 
Why would anyone who doesn't want to make a pro-rightwing game offer review codes to people who shat on a game because Muh Nonbinary Character? Treating this as being "anti-gamer" only works if you admit that "gamer" means being the kind of people who make wokespotting groups here on Steam.
Last edited by Moonlight Knight; Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:27am
Silaf Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Why would anyone who doesn't want to make a pro-rightwing game offer review codes to people who shat on a game because Muh Nonbinary Character? Treating this as being "anti-gamer" only works if you admit that "gamer" means being the kind of people who make wokespotting groups here on Steam.
What's the point of even having a review if the channel is forced to have "positive statments"?
We may as well close all journalism channels and only have publicity.

PS: Oh sorry i forgot you don't belive in freedom of speech.
Last edited by Silaf; Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:36am
I mean game journalism has worked this way since at least the 90s.

Unless they're incredibly sure of a game, publishers tend to give keys to only people they think will support them.

It's not even political. It's literally just them treating reviews as advertising (which they kind of are.)

Most media reviewing is similar. It's just more pronounced and obvious in gaming.
Last edited by Jeffer'son Airship; Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:38am
Cassidy0z (Banned) Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Why would anyone who doesn't want to make a pro-rightwing game offer review codes to people who shat on a game because Muh Nonbinary Character? Treating this as being "anti-gamer" only works if you admit that "gamer" means being the kind of people who make wokespotting groups here on Steam.

haha this stuff is like a gut punch in the old activist stomach eh? Triggered reactions are funny. Hope you're equally holding up the diversity flag when they remove content so they can sell it in China.
Moonlight Knight Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by Silaf:
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Why would anyone who doesn't want to make a pro-rightwing game offer review codes to people who shat on a game because Muh Nonbinary Character? Treating this as being "anti-gamer" only works if you admit that "gamer" means being the kind of people who make wokespotting groups here on Steam.
What's the point of even having a review if the channel is forced to have "positive statments"?
We may as well close all journalism channels and only have publicity.
Do you know for a fact that they're telling people to only make positive statements, or is that just what you've decided is true? Because what I said isn't about forcing people to make positive statements, but rather about making sure those statements are actually based in the statements rather than an agenda.

In my experience when a game is "woke" it gets reviewbombed by a lot of people who will basically claim that every aspect of the game is bad, regardless of the truth behind that statement, and then maybe complain about the supposedly "woke" parts. That's not constructive criticism.
Octavus Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:40am 
Yeah, censorship. Typical far-left behavior. If they can't censor them they'll just send review codes to paid affiliates and journos that share the same views.
Uh it's not political. Game publishers have always pulled this stuff.

Nothing to do with left or right. Publishers always want to control the review narrative. It's just capitalism.
Last edited by Jeffer'son Airship; Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:41am
Moonlight Knight Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Silaf:
PS: Oh sorry i forgot you don't belive in freedom of speech.
More strawmanning. Joy.
Moonlight Knight Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by Jeffer'son Airship:
Uh it's not political. Game publishers have always pulled this stuff.

Nothing to do with left or right. Publishers always want to control the review narrative. It's just capitalism.
It's always political, especially when it's not.
Silaf Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Originally posted by Silaf:
What's the point of even having a review if the channel is forced to have "positive statments"?
We may as well close all journalism channels and only have publicity.
Do you know for a fact that they're telling people to only make positive statements, or is that just what you've decided is true? Because what I said isn't about forcing people to make positive statements, but rather about making sure those statements are actually based in the statements rather than an agenda.

In my experience when a game is "woke" it gets reviewbombed by a lot of people who will basically claim that every aspect of the game is bad, regardless of the truth behind that statement, and then maybe complain about the supposedly "woke" parts. That's not constructive criticism.
If you have a plurality of channels the problem is automatically resolved.
In time you will end up following the channels you trust based on your previous experiences and in the immediate if an opinion is not shared but unique to only one channel you can ignore it.
Last edited by Silaf; Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:44am
DARK Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:44am 
yes
Moonlight Knight Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Silaf:
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Do you know for a fact that they're telling people to only make positive statements, or is that just what you've decided is true? Because what I said isn't about forcing people to make positive statements, but rather about making sure those statements are actually based in the statements rather than an agenda.

In my experience when a game is "woke" it gets reviewbombed by a lot of people who will basically claim that every aspect of the game is bad, regardless of the truth behind that statement, and then maybe complain about the supposedly "woke" parts. That's not constructive criticism.
If you have a plurality of channel the problem is automatically resolved.
In time you will end up following the channels you trust based on your previous experiences and in the immediate if an opinion is not shared but unique to only one channel you can ignore it.
If sunlight was the best disinfectant like you're arguing here, Asmongold wouldn't have a following.
I mean the smart thing to do with review channels is follow ones that align with your tastes.

Look for people who enjoy similar games to what you enjoy. It's that simple.
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Originally posted by Silaf:
What's the point of even having a review if the channel is forced to have "positive statments"?
We may as well close all journalism channels and only have publicity.
Do you know for a fact that they're telling people to only make positive statements, or is that just what you've decided is true? Because what I said isn't about forcing people to make positive statements, but rather about making sure those statements are actually based in the statements rather than an agenda.

In my experience when a game is "woke" it gets reviewbombed by a lot of people who will basically claim that every aspect of the game is bad, regardless of the truth behind that statement, and then maybe complain about the supposedly "woke" parts. That's not constructive criticism.

Logical fallacy. We don't need to know if this one is the exception, all we need to do is come from a position of likelihood. And we know from a slew of examples that this is highly likely not to mention it falls in line with natural human tendency to not want to have to face negative reception or take accountability. So yes it is completely fair for people to side on what is a trend or tendency.

Your experience is exactly the type we shouldn't consider because it too is a trend of someone having a worldview of politics and siding on anything around 'woke' or identity.... All criticism is constructive if it points to an area of concern about things that would prevent others from trying or buying the game particularly when said thing isn't an isolated small group of complaints but a much larger set all pointing to the same characteristics.

Your ideology doesn't matter nor does anyones.... what matters is producing a game that will be successful by appealing to the majority who could pay for it.
BlackSunEmpire Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:48am 
Avowed ?

More like Avoid.
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