Can we get a way to turn off the karma system, and stop zoi from being so mean to each other?

[mccarrollud]

My zoi had the smart zoi speech bubble above her head saying "I really feel like me and Monica are on the same page" while autonomously going over to Monica to tell her that "you just don't understand me". I feel like making zoi so mean is just a way to nerf the karma system, which I hate anyways and wish would go away, or at least give us a way to turn it off.

[⚡Syn[a]⚡]

The karma system and smart zoi is not finished and therefore does not yet work as intended.

But Karma it is very firmly anchored in many areas. The whole game principle.
The game is based on karma. as foundation.
so there will be no possibility. to turn off Karma without giving up many things.

[mccarrollud]

Originally posted by Syna:

The karma system and smart zoi is not finished and therefore does not yet work as intended.

But Karma it is very firmly anchored in many areas. The whole game principle.
The game is based on karma. as foundation.
so there will be no possibility. to turn off Karma without giving up many things.

1) then don't put it in till it's at a state where it makes sense
2) then get rid of those things too, the whole karma thing is tedious and boring

[Vailimo]

The karma system is currently not fully implemented, as it is intrinsically linked to ghosts and ghosts will not be implemented until May.

There is also currently no way to disable it.

In my case, I've grown accustomed to the tendency of zoi's to put drama into the game. Since it's so easy for the player to improve relationships, I think it's only fair for the zois to lower those relationship bars a bit from time to time.

Nevertheless, let's hope they improve this aspect anyway. I don't know what the street sweepers and park sweepers have a thing for mine, but they often come up to my zoi out of the blue and say something rude. Among other situations.

It is true that I have also encountered more realistic situations (or coincidence?) whereby a former lover of my married zoi every time she sees him in a public place tries to argue with him.

[mccarrollud]

Originally posted by Vailimo:

The karma system is currently not fully implemented, as it is intrinsically linked to ghosts and ghosts will not be implemented until May.

There is also currently no way to disable it.

In my case, I've grown accustomed to the tendency of zoi's to put drama into the game. Since it's so easy for the player to improve relationships, I think it's only fair for the zois to lower those relationship bars a bit from time to time.

Nevertheless, let's hope they improve this aspect anyway. I don't know what the street sweepers and park sweepers have a thing for mine, but they often come up to my zoi out of the blue and say something rude. Among other situations.

It is true that I have also encountered more realistic situations (or coincidence?) whereby a former lover of my married zoi every time she sees him in a public place tries to argue with him.

I'm starting to feel like Krafton has a bunch of people on these forums. If it's not complete don't put it in game, this is Early Access, not paid beta. I didn't pay $40 to play test for a $12 billion company.

[Vailimo]

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

Originally posted by Vailimo:

The karma system is currently not fully implemented, as it is intrinsically linked to ghosts and ghosts will not be implemented until May.

There is also currently no way to disable it.

In my case, I've grown accustomed to the tendency of zoi's to put drama into the game. Since it's so easy for the player to improve relationships, I think it's only fair for the zois to lower those relationship bars a bit from time to time.

Nevertheless, let's hope they improve this aspect anyway. I don't know what the street sweepers and park sweepers have a thing for mine, but they often come up to my zoi out of the blue and say something rude. Among other situations.

It is true that I have also encountered more realistic situations (or coincidence?) whereby a former lover of my married zoi every time she sees him in a public place tries to argue with him.

I'm starting to feel like Krafton has a bunch of people on these forums. If it's not complete don't put it in game, this is Early Access, not paid beta. I didn't pay $40 to play test for a $12 billion company.

If you feel that way, you may have paranoid tendencies.

I'm amazed at people who think that because they pay for early access they have to play a game a la carte.

Speaking of feelings, the same thing happens to me when I see users (some of them haven't even bought the game yet) getting upset like a child who throws a bad tantrum when nobody don't buy the ice cream they've been craving for.

[mccarrollud]

Originally posted by Vailimo:

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

I'm starting to feel like Krafton has a bunch of people on these forums. If it's not complete don't put it in game, this is Early Access, not paid beta. I didn't pay $40 to play test for a $12 billion company.

If you feel that way, you may have paranoid tendencies.

I'm amazed at people who think that because they pay for early access they have to play a game a la carte.

Speaking of feelings, the same thing happens to me when I see users (some of them haven't even bought the game yet) getting upset like a child who throws a bad tantrum when nobody don't buy the ice cream they've been craving for.

If you enjoy being taken advantage of by a AAA company, having you pay money to play test their product so that they don't have to pay for a QA team of their own, I'm happy for you, because if you don't call out this BS it is going to become the new norm. This is not an EA game, this is a Beta game that needs to be play tested. Nothing, and I mean nothing, is in any kind of a finished state. Please stop defending gigantic companies and their deplorable practices.

[Rhynna]

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

If it's not complete don't put it in game, this is Early Access, not paid beta. I didn't pay $40 to play test for a $12 billion company.

You obviously don't understand what Early Access means. It means the game is still an alpha version, it hasn't even reached beta status yet.
Early Access doesn't mean that it's a full and finished release that one can play a couple days earlier than others.
But yes, you are indeed playtesting a half finished game, lol.

[⚡Syn[a]⚡]

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

Originally posted by Syna:

The karma system and smart zoi is not finished and therefore does not yet work as intended.

But Karma it is very firmly anchored in many areas. The whole game principle.
The game is based on karma. as foundation.
so there will be no possibility. to turn off Karma without giving up many things.

1) then don't put it in till it's at a state where it makes sense
2) then get rid of those things too, the whole karma thing is tedious and boring

ah no. then it would not be Early Access. but full release if it is only published when everything is finished.

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

I'm starting to feel like Krafton has a bunch of people on these forums. If it's not complete don't put it in game, this is Early Access, not paid beta. I didn't pay $40 to play test for a $12 billion company.

Early Access is a playtest are paid beta.
unfinished games are released, and to constantly improve them after being tested by many players. that is the whole principle of Early Access.
whether you like it or not.
Don't buy Early Access titles if you have a problem with them or don't want to be a beta tester.

Furthermore, the fortune of the entire company does not say anything about how much money the development department has for Inzoi. They will hardly invest all their wealth in just one project. I am not saying that they have little, I don't know how much of the profit is allocated to Inzoi. I think it's just ignorant to believe that because the company is worth so much, the game automatically has to be worth it too. that's not how it works.

[mccarrollud]

Originally posted by Rhynna:

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

If it's not complete don't put it in game, this is Early Access, not paid beta. I didn't pay $40 to play test for a $12 billion company.

You obviously don't understand what Early Access means. It means the game is still an alpha version, it hasn't even reached beta status yet.
Early Access doesn't mean that it's a full and finished release that one can play a couple days earlier than others.
But yes, you are indeed playtesting a half finished game, lol.

no, that's not what it means, it means the game is missing some content, and may have some bugs, and they are putting it out so that people can report the bugs before they put in the final content and put in out for final release.

it does not mean that nothing is finished and nothing is working. Alpha, Beta, Early access and final release are all different phases of game development. For giant game developers, Alpha and Beta should be handled inhouse. and Early Access is generally only reserved for small developers to get capital to finish their game.

You seem to be the one who doesn't understand

[Xautos]

Krafton is comparable to the likes of Ubisoft and EA where their value is concerned, though they clearly do things a little differently to the other two. Still a very big and powerful publisher in South Korea. They are the ones bankrolling the developers towards building Inzoi.

But like any business, they are out to make money, not lose it or be seen as a charity case no matter how some users are entitled about what they believe it should be worth much less or free, development of any game over an amount of time is going to be costly. This goes for Indie studios all the way to powerhouses like Krafton, they need money to keep going.

[mccarrollud]

Originally posted by Syna:

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

1) then don't put it in till it's at a state where it makes sense
2) then get rid of those things too, the whole karma thing is tedious and boring

ah no. then it would not be Early Access. but full release if it is only published when everything is finished.

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

I'm starting to feel like Krafton has a bunch of people on these forums. If it's not complete don't put it in game, this is Early Access, not paid beta. I didn't pay $40 to play test for a $12 billion company.

Early Access is a playtest are paid beta.
unfinished games are released, and to constantly improve them after being tested by many players. that is the whole principle of Early Access.
whether you like it or not.
Don't buy Early Access titles if you have a problem with them or don't want to be a beta tester.

Furthermore, the fortune of the entire company does not say anything about how much money the development department has for Inzoi. They will hardly invest all their wealth in just one project. I am not saying that they have little, I don't know how much of the profit is allocated to Inzoi. I think it's just ignorant to believe that because the company is worth so much, the game automatically has to be worth it too. that's not how it works.

Beta play testing and Early Access are two different things. Just because they are calling it Early Access doesn't mean it is. They are having people pay money to Beta play test for them, not even indie studios do this

[Vailimo]

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

Originally posted by Vailimo:

If you feel that way, you may have paranoid tendencies.

I'm amazed at people who think that because they pay for early access they have to play a game a la carte.

Speaking of feelings, the same thing happens to me when I see users (some of them haven't even bought the game yet) getting upset like a child who throws a bad tantrum when nobody don't buy the ice cream they've been craving for.

If you enjoy being taken advantage of by a AAA company, having you pay money to play test their product so that they don't have to pay for a QA team of their own, I'm happy for you, because if you don't call out this BS it is going to become the new norm. This is not an EA game, this is a Beta game that needs to be play tested. Nothing, and I mean nothing, is in any kind of a finished state. Please stop defending gigantic companies and their deplorable practices.

I am not defending any company. I'm talking about the game. The only one talking about companies is you. You find it boring and want to remove a feature. I like it. In my case I know what early access is and I am responsible for my decision. It seems that I bet right and you bet wrong.

If you have to think a lot and analyse what you want to buy in this world, with full games, you have to do double or triple when you bet on early access.

So don't. Accept your responsibility and don't blame your decision and frustration on companies or users in a forum.

Otherwise it's fine for you to come to this forum to say that you don't like something. What you can't do is that because you don't like it, nobody should like it. And if someone else posts their experiences and they are positive or neutral, then you brand the other person as being in the pay of a company. Totally childish behaviour.

[mccarrollud]

Originally posted by Vailimo:

Originally posted by mccarrollud:

If you enjoy being taken advantage of by a AAA company, having you pay money to play test their product so that they don't have to pay for a QA team of their own, I'm happy for you, because if you don't call out this BS it is going to become the new norm. This is not an EA game, this is a Beta game that needs to be play tested. Nothing, and I mean nothing, is in any kind of a finished state. Please stop defending gigantic companies and their deplorable practices.

I am not defending any company. I'm talking about the game. The only one talking about companies is you. You find it boring and want to remove a feature. I like it. In my case I know what early access is and I am responsible for my decision. It seems that I bet right and you bet wrong.

If you have to think a lot and analyse what you want to buy in this world, with full games, you have to do double or triple when you bet on early access.

So don't. Accept your responsibility and don't blame your decision and frustration on companies or users in a forum.

Otherwise it's fine for you to come to this forum to say that you don't like something. What you can't do is that because you don't like it, nobody should like it. And if someone else posts their experiences and they are positive or neutral, then you brand the other person as being in the pay of a company. Totally childish behaviour.

I swear you're a shill for Krafton.

go ahead, expect less and less, see where that gets you

[Angel]

This probably a game where you have to do good things. You can do bad things too, but there is no reward for that. You can make all Zois a good person by just being good yourself. You can be as bad as you want, if you don't care about the reward.

[mccarrollud]

Originally posted by Angel:

This probably a game where you have to do good things. You can do bad things too, but there is no reward for that. You can make all Zois a good person by just being good yourself. You can be as bad as you want, if you don't care about the reward.

nope, that would be nice if it were true, but Zoi are just autonomously mean to people all the time for no reason