PC shuts down when playing inZOI

[Scoup]

I have noticed that my pc would just shuts itself down without any error messages. This only happens in inZOI and not any other titles. I have played other titles such as Forza Horizon 5, Indiana Jones, Cities Skylines 1&2, Sims 4, EA FC25, F1 24, World of Warcraft, Marvel Rivals and none of them causes this issue. At first I thought it was due to overheating but thermals look fine.

[Lovyan]

Originally posted by MonkeyMummyMoney:

Ideally nothing will ever continuously slurp down 800 watts, but Video Games are really weird now. All other tech is getting increasingly more energy efficient even if that's not their stated goal, but game devs aim for the moon every time if you can understand what I'm getting at. Or... Would the culprit be PC Hardware Manufactures specifically? I'd hope not, bad enough the performance gains in newer hardware are all illusions, be pissed silly if the gains were fake AND the hardware sucks down power like a Magnum V8 does Gas the second you floor it.

You're right, in general use a PC (even in 'maximum performance' power settings) will not continuously draw massive amounts of power. The notable exception is GPU's, which can (and will) do so if the application in question is GPU-bound to any major degree; this includes the use of various shader techniques which are common in modern games, such as various AA types, DoF, motion blur, tesselation and so forth.

GPU's are usually the single most power-hungry component of a PC, and the one that usually dictates the required wattage of the PSU required to run it. The rule of thumb (at least, what I've used for the past 3 decades) is, add up the nominal power requirements of all current components, add at least 10% to account for 'burst' requests and peripherals (such as external drives that are not always plugged in), and another 10% for 'expansion/upgrade' room if you plan on that later.

By that metric, my current rig has used the same 1050W PSU for almost 15 years - spanning 3 complete system rebuilds and various minor upgrades - because even though power use has generally dropped a bit over the years for most parts, GPU's have still fluctuated wildly and often draw half or more of a system's total power usage. With that PSU, I've never had an issue with shutdowns due to 'not enough power', yet no system has ever drawn more than it required.

[Caduryn]

Sounds more like a PSU issue

[MonkeyMummyMoney]

Originally posted by Lovyan:

d peripherals (such as external drives that are not always plugged in), and another 10% for 'expansion/upgrade' room if you plan on that later. By that metric, my current rig has used the same 1050W PSU for almost 15 years

I see the price of the hobby, both upfront and in the long-term, being what kills it in the not-so-distant future.

You got Hardware that's getting expensive and the performance gains from it generally aren't real (Silver-Lining here though is that PC hardware doesn't really retain value very well. Wait a year or two and those 1,000 dollar cards will be a couple hundred.)

You got Games getting more expensive and generally they aren't able to justify their price and that's all before the inevitable 100 dollar price hike.

Then you got the long-term: If the hardware draws over 1,000 watts just using it imagine the spike in power bills.

All these things will either lead to people leaving the hobby all together or slowly phasing it out as they can't afford to indulge it as often as they once did.

It's all hitting a diminishing return.

[Lordmorbs]

the specs are pretty high on this game lower your graphics setting your pc is likely overheating. face a house fan to your air intake helps.

[Lovyan]

Originally posted by MonkeyMummyMoney:

Then you got the long-term: If the hardware draws over 1,000 watts just using it imagine the spike in power bills... It's all hitting a diminishing return.

As far as 'diminishing returns' go, by Moore's Law we pretty-much hit that about 2 decades ago. The only way a gaming computer should ever draw anywhere near 1000W in actual use is if it uses multiple GPU's. An RTX 480-Ti has a maximum power draw of around 400w, and the maximum power draw of most GPU's dating back to (as early as I recall off the top of my head) the GTX 700 series has generally been between 250-400W, so that hasn't really changed in 2 decades anyway. In general, most systems should run perfectly fine on a 750W PSU... but laptop PSU's provide at best a quarter of that (which is likely why the OP is having issues).

[MonkeyMummyMoney]

Originally posted by Lovyan:

Originally posted by MonkeyMummyMoney:

Then you got the long-term: If the hardware draws over 1,000 watts just using it imagine the spike in power bills... It's all hitting a diminishing return.

As far as 'diminishing returns' go, by Moore's Law we pretty-much hit that about 2 decades ago.

Then that would certainly explain why AMD and NVIDIA both are using AI as more and more of a crutch with each passing generation. I'd imagine Intel's cards are probably in the same boat, but I've not heard much about them other then them being pretty good entry level cards.

It would also explain why the 1080's are STILL able to bully the RTX Cards.

NVIDIA peaked a long time ago, but It probably wouldn't be good for their bottom line if they just packed in and said "The best card we can make across all metrics came out nearly a decade ago" and just offer increasingly more tweaked versions of the 1080.

I'd love that reality personally, but I don't think a company of their size could actually exist off that model.

[Lovyan]

Originally posted by MonkeyMummyMoney:

Then that would certainly explain why AMD and NVIDIA both are using AI as more and more of a crutch with each passing generation. I'd imagine Intel's cards are probably in the same boat, but I've not heard much about them other then them being pretty good entry level cards.

It would also explain why the 1080's are STILL able to bully the RTX Cards.

As far as processing power, the point of diminishing returns has been long hit, because physics dictates you can only fit a finite number of discreet transistors in a given amount of physical space (and the more you pack, the more heat is produced and the less efficient they become). For both CPU's and GPU's, it's now come full-circle in that the only meaningful way to 'increase performance' on those components is to use better algorithms; hence the current focus on AI and 'self-learning/programming' systems.

Look back in time to the 'earlier' days of mainstream gaming (the mid-80's to late-90's) and you will find that 'performance' was something coders had the biggest impact on (clever algorithms, a lot of custom assembler), but that art got 'lost' as computers started packing transistors in the billions, and 'all-in-one' game libraries like Unity/Unreal gained traction and attracted the 'I can write a script so I'm a games coder now' crowd. Now we are living in a time when very few 'game creators' actually know how to write/optimise code for raw performance, because they rely on pre-wriiten libraries which they assume do that for them (and are shocked if/when they discover that's... not entirely accurate).

[Shadow]

Rip potatoe

[LeDaron]

Originally posted by BruceBanner2010:

Learn to use MSI Afterburner with games so that you can set the speed of the fans to temperature targets and have it so the fans go full pelt 100% at the temperature you want it to go no higher than . For instance , on the odd occasion Ive forgot to start MSI Afterburner with a game my 4070 as occasionally gone into the 70C's + . But with a fan curve set in MSI Afterburner I rarely go higher than 62 C with any game

Afterburner can also cause crashes on some games, I use it mainly to undervolt my card, but on inzoi I have crashes

[Hekteur]

1) don't use afterburner unless you absolutely have to monitor your temperatures. That app does cause crash in games so, don't use it when you aren't investigating some problem. You may want to use apps like HWinfo or HWMonitor instead, as those don't cause any compatibility/stability issues.
2) This MAY be a power problem. Maybe your PSU is about to dies, or not strong enough. This, however, should also occur in other demanding games or in any case when your PC is under heavy load.
3) General stability/maintenance/corruption issue. Depending how long it's been since your last reset and how your pc behave generally speaking, you might want to format/reset your pc and go for a clean install. You also may want to try only reinstalling drivers and the game before proceeding to a full reset.

[Angel]

Hello, Creators.
We are currently investigating an issue where the game crashes when attempting to change textures or colors after the v0.1.4 hotfix.

We apologize for the inconvenience caused by this issue and we will provide further updates through the ⁠⁠service-notice channel as new information becomes available.

Thank you for your understanding and support!
The inZOI Team

Here you go. Came in today, and they are working on it.

[-=Baka_Ranger=-]

Originally posted by Angel:

Hello, Creators.
We are currently investigating an issue where the game crashes when attempting to change textures or colors after the v0.1.4 hotfix.

We apologize for the inconvenience caused by this issue and we will provide further updates through the ⁠⁠service-notice channel as new information becomes available.

Thank you for your understanding and support!
The inZOI Team

Here you go. Came in today, and they are working on it.

Game crash =/= computer crash