(DEVS, Players) Child abuse; regional problems (compliance with legislation)

[CenTurian Archangel]

Dear inZoi players, community administrators, game authors, testers.

I have to raise a difficult but very important topic in my opinion - the reputation of the game and its content according to the approved age rating.

Days after the game was released, there were complaints from players with traditional values ​​that the game contains LGBT+ elements, and that this is unacceptable for them. On the other hand, since yesterday, players with LGBT+ values ​​have been complaining about the impossibility of building LGBT relationships.

Further, since the same day, videos began to appear of a small number of inZoi players doing things like kidnapping children, running over children with a car, and calling it "roleplaying a maniac".

In light of such dishonest player behavior, and the upcoming release of the WhickedZoi mod, I ask the authors of inZoi to do everything to preserve the reputation of your brainchild, to rid it of the aura of scandals, a trail that began at the very beginning of "early access".

To do this, bring your game to a state that complies with international and national child protection laws (remove interactions, behavior that contradict it), prohibit the possibility of any modifications of minors Zoi at the game code level, track abuses of unscrupulous players with children through the trigger, consult with governments of countries about the correctness/incorrectness of their players' access to the LGBT functions of creating Zoi and interaction.

In case of inconsistency of certain theses with national policy, the game can be banned by the country, and you know perfectly well what this means for both players and the game studio.

You have many players from the countries of the "eastern" camp, and they are counting on you.

But I ask you to do everything so as not to overdo it, otherwise you risk losing the entire audience or most of them.

Keep in mind that in China, India, Russia, Arab countries, Muslim countries of Africa, LGBT policy is not welcomed (especially regarding children), despite the UN policy. You are making a game not for a separate region but for the whole world, please take this into account so that you can improve the game that everyone will like.

Otherwise, you will have to change the target audience to 18+ with all the ensuing consequences.

In Russia, where I come from, despite the traditionalist position of the state, the youth has an accepting position towards LGBT, but in recent years the fight on the part of the state has intensified, especially this concerns the prohibition of children's access to what is harmful to their development, that is, LGBT. Roskomnadzor does not obey ICAN, the game can be blocked in this region if it is not brought to a state satisfactory to the federal authorities.

Accordingly, according to the rating - in my region, and in others listed above, consultations with the authorities are necessary, since the target audience is 12+

Such measures are dictated by the activity of dishonest players.

Thank you for your attention.
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Дорогие игроки inZoi, администраторы сообщества, авторы игры, тестеры.

Я вынужден поднять непростую но очень важную по моему мнению тему - репутацию игры и её наполнение согласно утверждённому возрастному рейтингу.

Спустя дни после выходы игры были жалобы со стороны игроков с традиционными ценностями о том что в игре присутствуют элементы LGBT+, и что это для них неприемлимо. С другой стороны, со вчерашнего дня игроки с ЛГБТ+ ценностями жаловались о невозможности построения ЛГБТ отношений.

Далее, с того же дня стали выходить видео как немногочисленные игроки inZoi занимались такими вещами как похищение детей, наезд на детей на машине, и называли это "отыгрышь маньяка".

В свете такого поведения недобросовестных игроков, и грядущего выхода мода WhickedZoi я прошу авторов inZoi сделать всё для сохранения репутации вашего детища, избавить его от ореола скандалов, шлейф который начался ещё в самом начале "раннего доступа".

Для этого приведите свою игру в состояние которое соблюдает международные и национальные законодательства об охране детей (уберите взаимодействия, поведение которые противоречат ему), запретите на уровне игрового кода возможность любых модификаций несовершеннолетних Zoi, отслеживайте злоупотребления недобросовестных игроков с детьми через триггер, проведите консультации с правительствами стран о корректности/некорректности доступа их игроков к ЛГБТ функциям создания Zoi и взаимодействия.

В случае несоответствия определённых тезисов национальной политике игра может быть запрещена в стране, и вы прекрасно знаете что это значит как для игроков так и для игровой студии.

У вас есть много игроков из стран "восточного" лагеря, и они рассчитывают на вас.

Но прошу сделать всё так чтобы не перегнуть палку, иначе вы рискуете потерять всю аудиторию либо большую часть из них.

Учтите что в Китае, Индии, России, арабских странах, мусульманских странах Африки, ЛГБТ политика не приветствуется (особенно касательно детей), несмотря на политику ООН. Вы делаете игру не для отдельного региона а для всего мира, пожалуйста учитывайте это чтобы вы могли улучшить игру которая понравится всем.


В противном случае придётся менять целевую аудиторию на 18+ со всеми вытекающими последствиями.

В России откуда я родом, несмотря на традиционнолистскую позицию государства - у молодёжи принимательское положение к ЛГБТ, но в последние годы активизировалась борьба со стороны государства, особенно это касается запрета доступа детей к тому что вредит их развитию, то есть ЛГБТ. Роскомнадзор не подчиняется ICAN, игра может быть заблокирована в этом регионе если она не будет приведена в состояние удовлетворяющие федеральные власти.

Соответственно согласно рейтингу - в моём регионе, и других вышеперечисленных необходимы консультации с властями, поскольку целевая аудитория 12+

Такие меры продиктованы активностью недобросовестных игроков.

Спасибо за внимание.

[Col. W. T. Philmore]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

and?

Are you one of "those".... Haters?

And child abuse is a next step in your "progress". Stop before it is too late and embrace traditional values!

Hate is too much for them, disgust is enough.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Col. W. T. Philmore:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

and?

Are you one of "those".... Haters?

And child abuse is a next step in your "progress". Stop before it is too late and embrace traditional values!

Hate is too much for them, disgust is enough.

Are you Brainwashed by the far right....?

[Devilish Dave]

Originally posted by CenTurian Archangel:

please respect the developers' decision.

You're the one with the demands, show some respect and stop demanding nonsense.

[$WAGGOT]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Col. W. T. Philmore:

And child abuse is a next step in your "progress". Stop before it is too late and embrace traditional values!

Hate is too much for them, disgust is enough.

Are you Brainwashed by the far right....?

He's a russian 40-year-old-something with no family who is overweight and plays world of tanks day and night. He's miserable and wants to project this misery onto others. Nothing new with these people tbh

[󠀡󠀡arren]

don't project your views into others, you sad no life 40 year old fat russian man who has nothing better to do with his life than to type a storm in the steam forums.

[Antinick]

Игра — это инструмент, а как его используют — дело игроков

[Eeyk]

It's an korean game not a western woke game, if you want woke stay with the sims.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Eeyk:

It's an korean game not a western woke game, if you want woke stay with the sims.

What do you mean it is.... not woke?
It already has "male, female and non-binary" in Char-creation.
And i am pro options btw

[JB™]

Its a single player game. You can't interact in their world and they can't interact with yours. You aren't forced to play with other people's mods and the content that you insert into your world is what you want, nobody else.

As far as videos of people doing immoral things in game and uploading them to Youtube - you don't have to watch those either. If they are unsuitable, it is Youtube's responsibility to remove them (Depending where you are it might be a government body).

Now, if this was a multiplayer game, I'm sure things would be considered to stop anything from interfering with your game, but it isn't.

As for same sex relationships, I don't care, but if there is a call for this to be implemented by a large group of players, then maybe it'll get implemented by region lock, or hopefully globally. It is after all an early access title that has time to implement many things, but I see no harm in this in a single player environment.

[Papragu]

Originally posted by CenTurian Archangel:

Dear inZoi players, community administrators, game authors, testers.

I have to raise a difficult but very important topic in my opinion - the reputation of the game and its content according to the approved age rating.

Days after the game was released, there were complaints from players with traditional values ​​that the game contains LGBT+ elements, and that this is unacceptable for them. On the other hand, since yesterday, players with LGBT+ values ​​have been complaining about the impossibility of building LGBT relationships.

Further, since the same day, videos began to appear of a small number of inZoi players doing things like kidnapping children, running over children with a car, and calling it "roleplaying a maniac".

In light of such dishonest player behavior, and the upcoming release of the WhickedZoi mod, I ask the authors of inZoi to do everything to preserve the reputation of your brainchild, to rid it of the aura of scandals, a trail that began at the very beginning of "early access".

To do this, bring your game to a state that complies with international and national child protection laws (remove interactions, behavior that contradict it), prohibit the possibility of any modifications of minors Zoi at the game code level, track abuses of unscrupulous players with children through the trigger, consult with governments of countries about the correctness/incorrectness of their players' access to the LGBT functions of creating Zoi and interaction.

In case of inconsistency of certain theses with national policy, the game can be banned by the country, and you know perfectly well what this means for both players and the game studio.

You have many players from the countries of the "eastern" camp, and they are counting on you.

But I ask you to do everything so as not to overdo it, otherwise you risk losing the entire audience or most of them.

Keep in mind that in China, India, Russia, Arab countries, Muslim countries of Africa, LGBT policy is not welcomed (especially regarding children), despite the UN policy. You are making a game not for a separate region but for the whole world, please take this into account so that you can improve the game that everyone will like.

Otherwise, you will have to change the target audience to 18+ with all the ensuing consequences.

In Russia, where I come from, despite the traditionalist position of the state, the youth has an accepting position towards LGBT, but in recent years the fight on the part of the state has intensified, especially this concerns the prohibition of children's access to what is harmful to their development, that is, LGBT. Roskomnadzor does not obey ICAN, the game can be blocked in this region if it is not brought to a state satisfactory to the federal authorities.

Accordingly, according to the rating - in my region, and in others listed above, consultations with the authorities are necessary, since the target audience is 12+

Such measures are dictated by the activity of dishonest players.

Thank you for your attention.
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Дорогие игроки inZoi, администраторы сообщества, авторы игры, тестеры.

Я вынужден поднять непростую но очень важную по моему мнению тему - репутацию игры и её наполнение согласно утверждённому возрастному рейтингу.

Спустя дни после выходы игры были жалобы со стороны игроков с традиционными ценностями о том что в игре присутствуют элементы LGBT+, и что это для них неприемлимо. С другой стороны, со вчерашнего дня игроки с ЛГБТ+ ценностями жаловались о невозможности построения ЛГБТ отношений.

Далее, с того же дня стали выходить видео как немногочисленные игроки inZoi занимались такими вещами как похищение детей, наезд на детей на машине, и называли это "отыгрышь маньяка".

В свете такого поведения недобросовестных игроков, и грядущего выхода мода WhickedZoi я прошу авторов inZoi сделать всё для сохранения репутации вашего детища, избавить его от ореола скандалов, шлейф который начался ещё в самом начале "раннего доступа".

Для этого приведите свою игру в состояние которое соблюдает международные и национальные законодательства об охране детей (уберите взаимодействия, поведение которые противоречат ему), запретите на уровне игрового кода возможность любых модификаций несовершеннолетних Zoi, отслеживайте злоупотребления недобросовестных игроков с детьми через триггер, проведите консультации с правительствами стран о корректности/некорректности доступа их игроков к ЛГБТ функциям создания Zoi и взаимодействия.

В случае несоответствия определённых тезисов национальной политике игра может быть запрещена в стране, и вы прекрасно знаете что это значит как для игроков так и для игровой студии.

У вас есть много игроков из стран "восточного" лагеря, и они рассчитывают на вас.

Но прошу сделать всё так чтобы не перегнуть палку, иначе вы рискуете потерять всю аудиторию либо большую часть из них.

Учтите что в Китае, Индии, России, арабских странах, мусульманских странах Африки, ЛГБТ политика не приветствуется (особенно касательно детей), несмотря на политику ООН. Вы делаете игру не для отдельного региона а для всего мира, пожалуйста учитывайте это чтобы вы могли улучшить игру которая понравится всем.


В противном случае придётся менять целевую аудиторию на 18+ со всеми вытекающими последствиями.

В России откуда я родом, несмотря на традиционнолистскую позицию государства - у молодёжи принимательское положение к ЛГБТ, но в последние годы активизировалась борьба со стороны государства, особенно это касается запрета доступа детей к тому что вредит их развитию, то есть ЛГБТ. Роскомнадзор не подчиняется ICAN, игра может быть заблокирована в этом регионе если она не будет приведена в состояние удовлетворяющие федеральные власти.

Соответственно согласно рейтингу - в моём регионе, и других вышеперечисленных необходимы консультации с властями, поскольку целевая аудитория 12+

Такие меры продиктованы активностью недобросовестных игроков.

Спасибо за внимание.

So you ever heard and played a game called Sims 4? Guess not. LOL Also you think that professionals working in their field don't know what they have to be aware of? Some people really...

[cl0vr]

Originally posted by Ouro:

Originally posted by Omisimmt:

Please deves, I beg you, dont!
Child abuse is of corse never ok.
But please let player play as lgbtq couples or unmarried sis couples it littarly saves lives. There is a reason why so many lgbtq are playing simulation games. Some, in countries that don't vallue freedom, have to hide their true identity every day even from the closest people. A game like this is the only escape. I understand that its probably a problem for the age restrictions in unfree countries. But I did not buy a game for toddler, it is sold as a REALISTIC Live simulator. LGBTQs are a realistic part of live since the start of humanity, And in real even unmarried people get pregnant. When conservatives don't like it they have not to do it. I am tired of this people forcing their live style on everybody.

"I am tired of this people forcing their live style on everybody."
"I WANT LGBTQ+ IN YOUR GAME!"

Pick one.

How is having queer interactions and representation in the game akin to "people forcing their [lifestyle] on everybody?" No one is forcing players to create queer characters and have them live out a queer life in inZoi. It's not either-or, you've had the ability to create straight, cisgender zois since day one with no requirement for them to be queer or transgender. Rather, the creator can choose their zoi's sexual orientation and gender identity.

If heterosexual cisgender zoi couples are a default facet of the game, and yet the game has little to no queer interactions, nor the possibility of queer relationships forming "naturally" (not preconfigured by the player) then I'd wager this game is forcing the cisgender, heterosexual "lifestyle" (being queer/trans is not a lifestyle, it's who a person is at their core) on queer and trans players, such as myself.

We're not trying to take over and control your life or force you into doing, feeling, or expressing anything that you don't want to, we just want to be seen and respected as the humans we are, humans just like you.

Also, don't bundle child abuse in with discussions of LGBT representation. They have nothing to do with each other and portrayal of child abuse is extremely serious and deserves its own thread, or should be reported to Steam Support immediately. Now that I think of it, it's extremely concerning how the portrayal of child abuse in inZoi is kinda thrown onto the back burner as people are more focused on fighting over "the gays" or "conservatives" or "censorship."

[summerhaze]

I've never understood why so many people think LGBT+ automatically means child abuse. That's such nonsense. I'm a hetero and Caucasian. The world would be boring if everyone else was like that too. So would the game. Including various lifestyles and ethnicity in a game isn't forcing anything on anyone. The world is a wonderful diverse place full of interesting people and ideas. It's something to embrace, not be afraid of. Actual child abuse, like running over them in cars etc, should not be allowed. The sims is coded to prevent hurting children and people that make mods to allow it are shut down pretty fast.

[Col. W. T. Philmore]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Are you Brainwashed by the far right....?

No need to be brainwashed to see the obvious.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Col. W. T. Philmore:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Are you Brainwashed by the far right....?

No need to be brainwashed to see the obvious.

The obvious fake, yes

[Antigreedy]

No one care op. Peace.