Dedicated GPU?

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

I am all for high-quality games, but I am also about options. Excuse my ignorance in these matters, but why not have the option to dumb down the graphics enough for those of us who want to play but don't have the resources to buy some fancy gaming PC? My computer isn't horrible, but it definitely does not have a dedicated GPU.
I was really looking forward to this game, but it looks as though I am not going to have the option to play it. Even the demo won't so much as try to open the game. It immediately gives me a popup saying as much.
My ideal scenario would be to launch a lower-quality menu/launcher that gives you the option to play at the highest quality—or a lower, more reasonable-for-the-average-player quality. Again, I understand if that’s technically difficult or not feasible for this title, but it would be nice if more games kept lower-spec players in mind. Not all of us can afford expensive gaming PCs, but we still want a shot at enjoying this game in some form as well.
Oh well, back to The Sims I guess?

[Caduryn]

Calling a RTX 2060 (6G VRAM), AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT fancy now.... wow

Imagine calling a $130 GPU "fancy" ...

[Meow Clawmore]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Calling a RTX 2060 (6G VRAM), AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT fancy now.... wow

Imagine calling a $130 GPU "fancy" ...

But yeah, dev should optimize more to dumb down the requirement. My laptop with 4GB vram simply can't play this game even at minimum.

[Kat]

From what I understand (I have not really gotten into it because I am not in your position) is that a dedicated GPU is required to offload some of the CPU requirements for things like AI processing, which runs faster on a dedicated GPU which an integrated GPU just cant do. So its not just a matter of reducing graphical fidelity.

Depending on where you are, getting a second hand GPU is not that expensive that you could effectively just plug in without too much tech savvy, however, if you are working on a laptop, then you are sorta stuck.

[Sunshine]

Consider it Next Gen.

[Venngeance]

This game is at the forefront of technology in terms of realism and experimentation in the life sim genre. These things come at a cost -- if that means unintentionally gatekeeping from lower-spec machines now, at least future computers should support it nicely. Short term sacrifice for long term gain.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Meow Clawmore:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Calling a RTX 2060 (6G VRAM), AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT fancy now.... wow

Imagine calling a $130 GPU "fancy" ...

But yeah, dev should optimize more to dumb down the requirement. My laptop with 4GB vram simply can't play this game even at minimum.

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

[Venngeance]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Meow Clawmore:

But yeah, dev should optimize more to dumb down the requirement. My laptop with 4GB vram simply can't play this game even at minimum.

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

Agreed. It's unfortunate that some can't play but that is the nature of next-gen games on old-gen hardware.

[Houstonheart]

Its an UE 5 game that pretty much requires dedicated of RTX or RX 6000+ Mobile GPus at minimal.

What GPU do you have?

THE CPU requirements are actually lower then what they say but

the GPU requirements are def 2060+ and you rally want a 3070+ for min 3080 TI + or 4070 ti + foe recommended to high

also has to do with how much you build, active zois, zois at sleepign point, and city activity.

City - NPC - game character data = CPU

Graphics, details = gpu.

Extra memory can also offset it.

Recommendations take in account decent activity and building limits that they recommend - over that will tax it more. Ray tracing and shadows can put more load as well.

Geforce now streaming can be an option for you if you have a good internet connection. The geforce now test version test had it running at max high with smartzoi on.

[VoM]

You can subscribe to GeForce now and play that way.

[Venngeance]

Originally posted by VoM:

You can subscribe to GeForce now and play that way.

Good point ^

[Kat]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Meow Clawmore:

But yeah, dev should optimize more to dumb down the requirement. My laptop with 4GB vram simply can't play this game even at minimum.

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

Your comment somehow made me think if the 90's where if you did not have a specific sound card down to the serial number, the game would not launch at all... spec requirements in those days were tough.

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Calling a RTX 2060 (6G VRAM), AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT fancy now.... wow

Imagine calling a $130 GPU "fancy" ...

Haha, it may not be that fancy in the gaming world. I meant that comment relative to me, as I am working from a laptop. I would have to go out and by a whole new computer to tack onto that $130, and my car needs new brakes.

[Moekxx]

Even a console has a dedicated GPU. An onboard GPU that comes from the CPU isn't made for such games.

Simply turning down the graphics doesn't help; all the NPC and world simulations are demanding. Plus, the new UE5 game engine is just as demanding.

And as others have already said, an RTX 4060/5060 or an ARC B580 isn't exactly fancy and should be sufficient to play the game reasonably well.
Nobody says you have to get a €3000+ PC, you can even get a good high-end PC built for €1000-1500. Hobbies do cost a bit.

[Venngeance]

Originally posted by InstantHumanJustAddCoffee:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Calling a RTX 2060 (6G VRAM), AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT fancy now.... wow

Imagine calling a $130 GPU "fancy" ...

Haha, it may not be that fancy in the gaming world. I meant that comment relative to me, as I am working from a laptop. I would have to go out and by a whole new computer to tack onto that $130, and my car needs new brakes.

Your situation sounds tough - I can sympathise.

I'd recommend what another commenter said, look into GeForce Now if you really want to play, you can stream it off hardware that can run it.

[InstantHumanJustAddCoffee]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Meow Clawmore:

But yeah, dev should optimize more to dumb down the requirement. My laptop with 4GB vram simply can't play this game even at minimum.

But why?
Why optimize a 2025 game to be able to run on 2008 Hardware....?

I agree with you. I would in no way wish that they dumb down the whole game, because that wouldn't be fair for those who do have a better setup. I simply would like them to offer a "dumb down" setting. My laptop isn't old, it is just a laptop not a desktop.